Thor's Skills and Boasts

[Vartha]

I've been thinking about this, and some of us have touched on it a couple of times.
I don't think Thor should boast as much anymore, now that he remembers all his thousands of years of life.
Using the images we've seen in CW so far, I think that the next thing he says should be,

"You all KNOW who I am, and I'm very disapointed in my Brothers, for fighting amongst yourselves. I now Remember ALL of my Thousands of years of life and skills, this fighting will cease...NOW."

Almost in a Fatherly way to his children, he gives them a warning before dealing out punishment.

I'm not saying Thor shouldn't be bragging ever now and then, but, that makes him seem to me almost like an oaf. Thor is better than that.
I know Vikings have been porteyed as being a boisterous group of people, but, they are a proud people too and shouldn't all be portayed as oafs.

 

[The Question]

He's not an oaf. He's a braggart. The thing is, he's quite correct when he brags. He can and will lay down an asswhuppin' on almost anyone short of the Juggernaut.

 

[Vartha]

That's the point tho, His boasts seem to have often made him seem like an oaf to other readers over the years.
I've been a fan for years, and I've always loved the Boasts and bragging, but, Thor should be beyond that now. I don't think there's a hero out there that hasn't heard of Thor, and this instance in CW he shouldn't have to boast or brag, just lay down the law and cease the fighting.
If there's going to be change in Thor other than the fact that he should remember ALL of his past lives, I think they should limit the bragging, and make him more a "Man of Action" there's no reason that Cap and Iron-man shouldn't stop listen, at this point.

 

[bkhedr]

He's not an oaf. He's a braggart. The thing is, he's quite correct when he brags. He can and will lay down an asswhuppin' on almost anyone short of the Juggernaut.

totally agree

He's a god, gods arent humble

and he can back it up

 

[unstoppable]

He's not an oaf. He's a braggart. The thing is, he's quite correct when he brags. He can and will lay down an asswhuppin' on almost anyone short of the Juggernaut.

he can take the juggernaut

 

[bkhedr]

he can take the juggernaut

Not full power Juggernaut he cant

 

[Vartha]

Right Gods aren't humble, but, the heros of earth have known Thor long enough to Know who he is, and Thor should just lay down the law and say enough is enough, and he means business. Maybe that's why someone "has a bad day".

totally agree

He's a god, gods arent humble

and he can back it up

 

[Vanguard07]

Full power Thor vs full power juggernaut I'd put my money on Thor for sure.

 

[A.J.Rimmer(BSC)]

Talking and confidence is half the battle. This oafishness is probably meant to also put off oponents.

 

[Vartha]

Well I'm hoping that if this REALLY is Thor that has returned, that Marvel doesn't forget that Thor has changed since Cap and Iron-Man last saw him.
Thor was showing more Confidence than he normally did in the last few issues, not to mention his power levels being higher, and his memories of past lives which also means an even more skillful Thor.
I really don't mind the Braggart in Thor, it's just he shouldn't have to explain to much to anyone, you either listen to reason or you get layed out.

 

[bkhedr]

Well I'm hoping that if this REALLY is Thor that has returned, that Marvel doesn't forget that Thor has changed since Cap and Iron-Man last saw him.
Thor was showing more Confidence than he normally did in the last few issues,

When has Thor ever not been brimming with confidence though?

I mean sure the first few pages of Ragnarok he was pretty down but that's understandable. He was facing the end of the world and everyone around him was dying.

But ussually Thor's confidence level is through the roof

 

[Whirlysplat]

Thor vs. Sentry needs to happen, the battle of the effite blonde Super Super heroes.

- Whirly

 

[Vartha]

When has Thor ever not been brimming with confidence though?

I mean sure the first few pages of Ragnarok he was pretty down but that's understandable. He was facing the end of the world and everyone around him was dying.

But ussually Thor's confidence level is through the roof

OH I agree, but what I'm talking about is, look at the panel where Thor puts up ONE hand and stops Mangog in his tracks, look at the simple wave of his hand and he flattens Loki's Buildings, He has a patiecne about him now, a more ease about him.
I'm not saying he should not get excited, just that he should have to be put though alot to get angered like he used to.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Thor vs. Sentry needs to happen, the battle of the effite blonde Super Super heroes.

- Whirly

With both of them being Pro-Reg it seems like it won't be happening anytime soon

 

[The Question]

Thor vs. Sentry needs to happen, the battle of the effite blonde Super Super heroes.

- Whirly

Say it again, boy. I dare you.

 

[Whirlysplat]

Say it again, boy. I dare you.

I prefer this pic of Thor to make my point

With both of them being Pro-Reg it seems like it won't be happening anytime soon

I know it's a damn shame.

- Whirly

 

[TheCorpulent1]

OH I agree, but what I'm talking about is, look at the panel where Thor puts up ONE hand and stops Mangog in his tracks, look at the simple wave of his hand and he flattens Loki's Buildings, He has a patiecne about him now, a more ease about him.
I'm not saying he should not get excited, just that he should have to be put though alot to get angered like he used to.

That's assuming that Thor actually remembers all of that. I'm still worried that Marvel went the Thor-newb route and this pro-reg Thor we're seeing now is really just some *****ebag with Mjolnir while the real Thor is still off sleeping amidst the stars after Asgard's destruction.

 

[The Question]

Way I see it, it should be both. It is Thor, but in the body of someone who found Mjolnir. Both minds still exist, but now kind of fused together. But hey, I'm way too hopeful.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I would prefer that not be the case. It's been done several times before, usually badly, and Simonson, Jurgens, and Oeming all showed that Thor's at his best without the crutch of a human mind. Thor's supposed to be the god of thunder, not a cheap Captain Marvel/Firestorm knock-off.

 

[The Question]

I suppose. But it's better than some pro-reg ******* who just found the hammer.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I suppose. But it's better than some pro-reg ******* who just found the hammer.

The CW Thor's being a fusion of Thor and a human would mean that Thor's mind is weak enough for some pro-reg ******* to force his body to fight the man he respects more than anyone short of Odin himself, though. I'd say that's even worse.

 

[The Question]

True. Although, we don't really know what Thor's intentions are in thing. He may simply be stopping the fight so two of his closest friends won't kick the crap out of each other. The fact that SHEILD was expecting him may only mean that they told him of the situation, and since he's too powerful for them to control, they simply let him solve a major problem, the fighting between the heroes, for them.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It's possible, but the impression I got was that SHIELD is manipulating Thor somehow. They gave him an official codename and were apparently stashing him as a secret weapon, after all. I'm thinking it's either Thor with no memory or some newb in Thor's body, and SHIELD came along to fill in some blanks with a healthy dose of falsehood, so he would believe that they're his friends.

Interestingly, Thor did have strong ties to SHIELD throughout most of his earlier comics, especially during the classic Simonson run. It was SHIELD who alerted Don Blake to Beta Ray Bill's arrival and SHIELD who set him up with his Sigurd Jarlson identity after Odin took away his Don Blake persona. The only reasons I don't buy the idea that he's currently working with SHIELD willingly and in his right mind are because 1) he's fighting against Cap, 2) his ties to SHIELD stemmed largely from his respect for Nick Fury, which he had because of Cap's word that Nick was good people, and 3) he's fighting against Cap.

 

[The Question]

The most likely scenario, fused to a human or simply reborn, is that coming back to a more biological form of life was highly disorienting, and the government used that to their advantage to manipulate him.

 

[Whirlysplat]

It's possible, but the impression I got was that SHIELD is manipulating Thor somehow. They gave him an official codename and were apparently stashing him as a secret weapon, after all. I'm thinking it's either Thor with no memory or some newb in Thor's body, and SHIELD came along to fill in some blanks with a healthy dose of falsehood, so he would believe that they're his friends.

Interestingly, Thor did have strong ties to SHIELD throughout most of his earlier comics, especially during the classic Simonson run. It was SHIELD who alerted Don Blake to Beta Ray Bill's arrival and SHIELD who set him up with his Sigurd Jarlson identity after Odin took away his Don Blake persona. The only reasons I don't buy the idea that he's currently working with SHIELD willingly and in his right mind are because 1) he's fighting against Cap, 2) his ties to SHIELD stemmed largely from his respect for Nick Fury, which he had because of Cap's word that Nick was good people, and 3) he's fighting against Cap.

Thor and Ironman were closer than Thor and Cap in early comics, they had shared secret ID's with each other.

- Whirly