TMOS Set & Official Photo Thread - Discussion Welcome - Part 8

[Rockstar]

Also India Eisley did a great performance in Underworld. Lets hope this new Lana Lang doesn't disappoint. I did wish we'll get to see a teen or adult Lana Lang though. Maybe for the sequel.

They are teenagers though.


I think these flashbacks are in highschool. There was a set picture of the football team and stuff.

They're bound to be as brief as the flashbacks in Batman Begins.

 

[Herolee10]

I think Snyder has already said how different his universe would be to Donner's. I think we'll see Lois get ditched or die, and Lana end up being the main love interest in the trilogy.

Some day i'll have to figure out as to why people think that Clark/Superman and Lois being with each other is just a Donner thing....

If the the whole thing about Snyder wanting to make the film different from what we've been shown so far on the big screen is your own reason as to why Lois will be killed off and Lana be turned into the main love Interest for the franchise then you're in for a sour disappointment.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

She's not going to get ditched and die

FYI, Lois Lane is 100% my favourite character ever created. She is my idol. If they abuse her character, i'll disown the franchise.

 

[HighFivingMF]

They're totally gonna kill off Amy Adams for the love interest that doesn't have an adult actress.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

I believe this is the young Lana actress:

you are correct

 

[NADALWON]

Some day i'll have to figure out as to why people think that Clark/Superman and Lois being with each other is just a Donner thing....

If the the whole thing about Snyder wanting to make the film different from what we've been shown so far on the big screen is your own reason as to why Lois will be killed off and Lana be turned into the main love Interest for the franchise then you're in for a sour disappointment.

I said "I think Snyder has already said how different his universe would be to Donner's." That doesn't mean Lois was invented by Donner. But if you are trying to cut the Donner universe off, the first thing you do is avoid romance between Lois and Superman/Clark, because Donner practically focused more on romance than action. Lois<3Superman was the main focus/theme of the first 2 movies.

 

[NADALWON]

They're totally gonna kill off Amy Adams for the love interest that doesn't have an adult actress.

But I think that's why Nolan saw her being 45 by the 3rd film as a non-issue - Lois won't be alive by then. And plenty of time to add another female adult character.

 

[manofsteel4life]

Where is this kill Lois crap coming from??

 

[Herolee10]

I said "I think Snyder has already said how different his universe would be to Donner's." That doesn't mean Lois was invented by Donner. But if you are trying to cut the Donner universe off, the first thing you do is avoid romance between Lois and Superman/Clark, because Donner practically focused more on romance than action. Lois<3Superman was the main focus/theme of the first 2 movies.

....I'm not sure if you're being serious or ignorant of things, but I cannot emphasize and stress ENOUGH on how many times it has to be said to you that Donner DIDN'T create the Lois/Superman romance.

DC Comics did! It was happening long before Donner's films, and it continued long after it.

So if there is a romance between Clark/Superman and Lois in MOS, it's not because of Donner, but because of their mythology/history as a famed couple in the DC Universe.

If you still think that Superman/Clark and Lois is a Donner thing only even after I just typed all of that, then I don't know what else to say.

But I think that's why Nolan saw her being 45 by the 3rd film as a non-issue - Lois won't be alive by then. And plenty of time to add another female adult character.

??? You really think that Amy's age is a indication that Lois will die?

Wow, that's just very sad man...really sad.

I honestly don't understand on how your logic works at all.

Seriously, if you love Lana that much, go and watch the early seasons of Smallville instead of trying to make up theories that have NO FOUNDATION or BASIS of truth whatsoever.

 

[X Knight]

you are correct

Do I get a cookie??!!

 

[NADALWON]

herolee10 are you blind? I just said "That doesn't mean Lois was invented by Donner." Why are you telling me the same thing I keep saying?

My point is, since there are many more things to focus on than Lois' feelings for Superman, and since Donner focused on that centrally, Snyder will likely ignore that theme in order to separate his franchise fully from Donner. Just as there are countless comic book themes without Lois, there are countless themes in the Superman film world for Snyder to explore.

And I don't like Smallville btw, apart from the first 3 seasons.

 

[souperman]

Do I get a cookie??!!

Hey... a Don Rickles lover!

 

[Lead Cenobite]

I don't know if I would say that the Donner movies were mostly about the romance, though it was an important aspect.

 

[Herolee10]

herolee10 are you blind? I just said "That doesn't mean Lois was invented by Donner." Why are you telling me the same thing I keep saying?

My point is, since there are many more things to focus on than Lois' feelings for Superman, and since Donner focused on that centrally, Snyder will likely ignore that theme in order to separate his franchise fully from Donner. Just as there are countless comic book themes without Lois, there are countless themes in the Superman film world for Snyder to explore.

And I don't like Smallville btw, apart from the first 3 seasons.

Am I the one that's blind? I should be asking you that. I said that that I wasn't saying that you said that Donner had invented Lois, I was talking about how the whole Clark/Superman and Lois relationship WASN'T his invention. Meaning that EVERY INTERPRETATION in other medium outlets that have had Clark and Lois in it have explored the romance between them in some way because it happened in the comics for the LONGEST time.

And I'd argue that there are MORE stories in the comics involving Clark/Superman and Lois together than there are separately, despite the fact that they aren't together currently because of the damn New 52 reboot. Just because Donner explored the romance between them, doesn't mean that it's a Donner thing.

And plus, Snyder has said it himself that one of the qualities that he was looking for in a actress to play Lois was that if you (audiences) could buy on why Superman would fall in love with her.

If that's not concrete enough, then I don't what in the blue hell will get you to see what's clearly visible for nearly everyone else.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

herolee10 are you blind? I just said "That doesn't mean Lois was invented by Donner." Why are you telling me the same thing I keep saying?

My point is, since there are many more things to focus on than Lois' feelings for Superman, and since Donner focused on that centrally, Snyder will likely ignore that theme in order to separate his franchise fully from Donner. Just as there are countless comic book themes without Lois, there are countless themes in the Superman film world for Snyder to explore.

And I don't like Smallville btw, apart from the first 3 seasons.

The Donner films had Lois as a love interest followed by Lana in a sequel. The best way to avoid that, is to do exactly that? Lana Lang as a love interest for Superman was something that was invented for the Donner films, to copy them is, well, copying them, not differentiating.

The Lois Clark and Superman relationship are as iconic to Superman's world as his cape IMO, and shouldn't be changed.

 

[NADALWON]

Am I the one that's blind? I should be asking you that. I said that that I wasn't saying that you said that Donner had invented Lois, I was talking about how the whole Clark/Superman and Lois relationship WASN'T his invention.

That's exactly what I just said. When I say "Donner didn't invent Lois" I am implying the romance. Donner didn't invent the romance between Lois and Superman. I'm saying exactly what you keep saying.

The point that we differ on is- I'm saying because Snyder has already said he's making a universe separate from Donner, that he probably will ignore the romantic Lois theme. Why? Because the romantic Lois theme is the central theme of Superman The Movie and Superman II. So if Snyder is serious about painting his own universe, then ignore the Lois romantic theme is the first step. I think Superman will fall for Lois, just as Bruce Wayne fell for Rachel. But they won't be a couple.

 

[NADALWON]

The Donner films had Lois as a love interest followed by Lana in a sequel. The best way to avoid that, is to do exactly that? Lana Lang as a love interest for Superman was something that was invented for the Donner films, to copy them is, well, copying them, not differentiating.

The Lois Clark and Superman relationship are as iconic to Superman's world as his cape IMO, and shouldn't be changed.

Donner didn't involve Lana. Lester did. Superman III was Lester. And Lana wasn't a love interest for Superman. She was the love interest for Clark.

 

[Herolee10]

That's exactly what I just said. When I say "Donner didn't invent Lois" I am implying the romance. Donner didn't invent the romance between Lois and Superman. I'm saying exactly what you keep saying.

The point that we differ on is- I'm saying because Snyder has already said he's making a universe separate from Donner, that he probably will ignore the romantic Lois theme. Why? Because the romantic Lois theme is the central theme of Superman The Movie and Superman II. So if Snyder is serious about painting his own universe, then ignore the Lois romantic theme is the first step. I think Superman will fall for Lois, just as Bruce Wayne fell for Rachel. But they won't be a couple.

That doesn't make sense... AT ALL! So, if we go by your logic, then every interpretation of Clark/Superman and Lois in other mediums after Donner's film is copying Donner's take just because they have romance between Superman and Lois?

That's like the most naive/unfounded argument that I've ever heard of. So was TDK not original because it used Harvey Dent and the Joker in it like how the first Batman film had done? Or how the Joker took over the criminal underworld in TDK like he had done so in the first film?

Jesus Christ; the romance ISN'T universal to Donner's take. SEVERAL versions of the Superman story in other shows (animated and live action) have shown the romance when those two were in it together, so if we go by your logic, then that means that ALL OF THOSE SHOWS AFTER DONNER'S ONE were not distancing themselves from Donner's one just because they had a romance.

And if we go by your logic then..Zod shouldn't even be in this film because Donner had him first in his film.

Why don't you just say that you don't like the Superman and Lois romance instead of making yourself look more worse by posting such baseless arguments.

 

[manofsteel4life]

Hero, you forgot the part where he thinks Lois is gonna get killed off lol.....Lois isn't Rachel....

 

[Kal-El.9859]

Do I get a cookie??!!

dealers choice...

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Donner didn't involve Lana. Lester did.

Which is in continuity with Superman: The Movie. This point is about as moot as me saying that Donner only used Lois in one movie considering Superman II was largely reshot by Lester.

Superman III was Lester. And Lana wasn't a love interest for Superman. She was the love interest for Clark.

Any feelings Clark had for Lana, Superman had too. Because, psst...

Spoiler

It's the same dude.

 

[Rockstar]

I think Superman's relationships in this trilogy will play out in a way that doesn't majorly clash with DC Comics' New 52.

I wouldn't count on Lois and Superman getting hitched and having an actual future together. DC had good reasons for canning that.

Lois is the love interest though. This Lana role is basically a glorified extra, same with Pete and Whitney.


If they had to kill Lois off, do it in the last film of the MoS franchise, or at least towards the end. I have to admit, the stories where Lois dies "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow," "Kingdom Come," "Infinite Crisis" etc are incredibly epic.


I remember reading that DC is setting up Superman to be with Wonder Woman now.

 

[X Knight]

Hey... a Don Rickles lover!

well......not really.......lol

I just thought it was a common expression.........

oh, and as for all of this talk of Lois dying, Superman + Lois not getting together, Lana the main LI...........

I know that they want to go for something fresh and different. But don't change iconic parts of the mythos just for the sake of change or being different.

You may succeed in attracting a "new" audience with the "edgier" approach. But, you may also succeed in alienating the core fanbase who like the more traditional elements.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

Superman is from Krypton.
Superman wears an 's' on his chest.
Superman has powers beyond mortal men.
Superman's love interest is Lois Lane.

There are a few facts about Superman that have pretty much never changed, and never will. Superman being into Lois and vice versa, is very much one of them.

Now you don't have to get them together. But if she's in the film at all (and she is), he is going to be interested in her.

How could he NOT be into her? How would that even work. Just put this beautiful and incredible woman as a central figure in Superman's life and have him what? Fluff up her hair and say 'you're alright sport'?

I just think it's illogical to suggest no romantic interest between them in the film whatsoever, whether people think it's too similar to the old movies or not.

 

[NADALWON]

I think Superman's relationships in this trilogy will play out in a way that doesn't majorly clash with DC Comics' New 52.

I wouldn't count on Lois and Superman getting hitched and having an actual future together. DC had good reasons for canning that.

Lois is the love interest though. This Lana role is basically a glorified extra, same with Pete and Whitney.


If they had to kill Lois off, do it in the last film of the MoS franchise, or at least towards the end. I have to admit, the stories where Lois dies "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow," "Kingdom Come," "Infinite Crisis" etc are incredibly epic.


I remember reading that DC is setting up Superman to be with Wonder Woman now.

I agree with every word