Tokyo Mirage Session #FE

[Sithborg]

I guess I was just expecting a few more FE elements. And I definetly did not expect it to be THAT anime.

 

[TheLastBlade]

After having my seizure, I decided to give my honest opinion on this.

Seriously, WTF?

This looks nothing like Fire Emblem (My favorite game series) or Shin Megami Tensei (a series that I personally don't care for). I can only hope that they only show the bad parts of the game, because this shaping up to be another generic JRPG. And god knows that we need another one of those like the west needs more generic FPS.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Have you never seen any Shin Megami Tensei games? You can see it all over that trailer. Heck it looks like Persona. And I see plenty of Fire Emblem.

 

[TheLastBlade]

With the exception of a very small resemblance to Fire Emblem, the artstyle says otherwise.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

With the exception of a very small resemblance to Fire Emblem, the artstyle says otherwise.

Compared to what? It is a more colorful Persona 4. Even the classic Persona setting. Have you played the last two Persona games? What the Persona 4 anime?

As to Fire Emblem, look the Marth lookalike.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Yeah, I don't have a huge amount of experience with Persona, but that looks Persona as **** I can tell. And one thing that's worth keeping in mind is that the trailer was the Japanese trailer (if that wasn't totally obvious by it being completely in Japanese). Not every Japanese trailer is like that, but it's not uncommon for them to really emphasis the...lets say, Japanese-ness of something, especially in unveiling trailers. There's some interesting stuff in there, like when the guy is overlooking a destroyed Tokyo, so I would wait before we see something else before jumping to conclusions.

 

[zenith16]

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[zenith16]

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[Tron Bonne]

Wrong FE, brah.

 

[Sithborg]

Yeah, I don't have a huge amount of experience with Persona, but that looks Persona as **** I can tell. And one thing that's worth keeping in mind is that the trailer was the Japanese trailer (if that wasn't totally obvious by it being completely in Japanese). Not every Japanese trailer is like that, but it's not uncommon for them to really emphasis the...lets say, Japanese-ness of something, especially in unveiling trailers. There's some interesting stuff in there, like when the guy is overlooking a destroyed Tokyo, so I would wait before we see something else before jumping to conclusions.

After a bit of research, it definetely draws heavily from Persona. I'm sure it will end up being good, but it is just a bit of a shock to they system.

 

[TheLastBlade]

Compared to what? It is a more colorful Persona 4. Even the classic Persona setting. Have you played the last two Persona games? What the Persona 4 anime?

As to Fire Emblem, look the Marth lookalike.

Jabs on Persona doesn't work on me, I actually hate the series. In fact, I DESPISED games like Persona 3. But aside from that, I personally think it looks as generic as any other JRPG.

Plus.... Really? A guy that's using some generic sci-fi costume resembles Fire Emblem? Maybe it's inspired by it, but I wouldn't call it similar.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Uh, that suit definitely looks like something you'd see out of Fire Emblem. Like, seriously, it may be of a slightly different style, but if you were to show me a picture and say it was FE character, I wouldn't have a hard time believing it at all.

 

[TheLastBlade]

Not to me it doesn't :\ Especially the way the trailer did it.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Jabs on Persona doesn't work on me, I actually hate the series. In fact, I DESPISED games like Persona 3. But aside from that, I personally think it looks as generic as any other JRPG.

Plus.... Really? A guy that's using some generic sci-fi costume resembles Fire Emblem? Maybe it's inspired by it, but I wouldn't call it similar.

I don't care if you like Persona. I personally do. So I am not taking jabs at it at all. My point is that it clearly looks like Persona 3 and 4, and if you don't play them well, ok. But just because you don't have experience with the series, doesn't mean this game doesn't clearly mirror it.

And I have a feeling you haven't played many Fire Emblems either. If any. He resembles a very specific character trope in the series.

In other words, you really don't know what you are talking about. Which is fine. But considering you are complaining about this game not being like two series you apparently haven't played is really odd.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Not to me it doesn't :\ Especially the way the trailer did it.

That is because you probably have never played either series.

 

[TheLastBlade]

That is because you probably have never played either series.

Uhhh.. Yes... I did. I remember that Fire Emblem didn't have sci-fi costumes with laser projectiles that came from visual novels in Japan. I also don't remember a pegasus being a robotic flying motorcycle. To be fair, there was at least a small glimpse of an actual pegasus.

The more I look at the trailer, however, it does resemble the bad atlus games.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

After a bit of research, it definetely draws heavily from Persona. I'm sure it will end up being good, but it is just a bit of a shock to they system.

Hey, maybe it will be terrible. You never do know, but I trust Atlus. But yes, clearly heavily Persona based.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Uhhh.. Yes... I did. I remember that Fire Emblem didn't have sci-fi costumes with laser projectiles that came from visual novels in Japan. I also don't remember a pegasus being a robotic flying motorcycle. To be fair, there was at least a small glimpse of an actual pegasus.

The more I look at the trailer, however, it does resemble the bad atlus games.

Dissing Persona doesn't makes my point any less true. Horrible attempt at cover.

 

[TheLastBlade]

I didn't SAY Persona. They made more than that, in which I hated a lot of them.

As much as it looks like Fire Emblem to you, it doesn't to me. A possible reason I don't see much resemblance to it is probably because it reminds me of bad visual novels/anime/JRPGs.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I didn't SAY Persona. They made more than that, in which I hated a lot of them.

As much as it looks like Fire Emblem to you, it doesn't to me. A possible reason I don't see much resemblance to it is probably because it reminds me of bad visual novels/anime/JRPGs.

You may consider that stuff bad. That still doesn't change the clear thought line in the look of the game.

 

[zenith16]

S'up ya'll ok here's the thing I one of the mod's over siliconera that I talk too often said this

puchinri Mod Deuteragonist To be honest, I don't think this direction came around until a ways after the initial announcement. But there actually was some hint dropped that this may be what we see (someone linked a interview/quote from the director), I think it just didn't make the rounds enough. It's actually curious to me that it wasn't mentioned on Siliconera ever, unless I don't remember it. It would probably have helped some of the reactions going on here.
Again, I think the first analogy you made works to a point, but it can't work completely. III is a number sequel. It's expected to be like the first two games. As a new crossover of both series, we have general expectations, but there aren't many implications (because it's a new product and we can only think that the gameplay and tone at least are implied).

To be honest, I don't think this direction came around until a ways after the initial announcement. But there actually was some hint dropped that this may be what we see (someone linked a interview/quote from the director), I think it just didn't make the rounds enough. It's actually curious to me that it wasn't mentioned on Siliconera ever, unless I don't remember it. It would probably have helped some of the reactions going on here.
Again, I think the first analogy you made works to a point, but it can't work completely. III is a number sequel. It's expected to be like the first two games. As a new crossover of both series, we have general expectations, but there aren't many implications (because it's a new product and we can only think that the gameplay and tone at least are implied).

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puchinri Mod Deuteragonist • a day ago That's why I think it doesn't work as well as an analogy though, because fans should and will expect very different things from a numbered sequel than they would a crossover that isn't a sequel. If III's gameplay changes, people would be miffed. If it changes dramatically, they have every right to miffed. With this, there isn't as much reason to be miffed. (Some, but not the extent that some people are taking it.)
I think part of the problem is that some things were said, but they weren't reported everywhere so some of us were really out of the loop.
For me, I'm used to being disappointed by Atlus lately so I wasn't too disappointed (I mean, I am because it's not what I thought and because it's not what I wanted).
I'm excited, but I also know to contain myself. They could still disappoint me (more)!
I agree~. To an extent I'm okay with some female fanservice, but it's so pervasive (and gross in some cases) a lot of games could cut back on it. I'll be glad if this doesn't throw it in our faces (but with how Atlus and Intelligent Systems are lately, my hopes aren't up).

As for my self I agree with some of what Darth has stated cause this what's been with alot in other mediums. we know that even Dc & marvel( the latter of which is about do with their universe sadly) other's like transformers Generation 1 there multiple version of their universes which don't even star the same character with the same names at times , they're using the bubble universe theory/ multiple reality thing ,to play with here, only again introducing new characters, as to not make the older fan's mad if the game isn't well received . so new audience in way


people won't/ say they f up their fave universe .

look at the difference between the first Xeno blade chronicles & the the current Xeno blade chronicles X or what's both the tales series & FF have been doing for age's.

Yes I'm aware you main not have played them(orb have & you didn't dig them) or are not a fan of them at all The last blade & I'm sorry but that seem to be the trend here . they're doing what FF & Tales series have done for years with creating new worlds/ universe with the same brand of the series.


I will give this game a chance cause it could be fun to play& if it flops it won't harm former universe cause this is it's own thing. which is the point of why they made a new universe with new characters . So people won't be allover them if people made up their minds to dislike it due to game play or otherwise. this isn't your thing now it's under stood . you know it's not for you.


On the upside we still have former fire emblem characters for Super Smash Bros & Code Name: S.T.E.A. M. (well with Code name steam you'll need the Amiibo figure but their still a major feature ) I Suggest you look at those games since they are major feature in both those games . Til they decide & says "hey we want to do more with the first universe and the fans will love it."

 

[Tron Bonne]

You put way too much effort into replying to him. LastBlade's MO is pretty much posting hyperbolic silliness.

And what exactly is up with those quotes and who are they suppose to be from?

 

[zenith16]

You put way too much effort into replying to him. LastBlade's MO is pretty much posting hyperbolic silliness.

oh the only reason I bothered is cause I saw large amount of people doi the same in siliconera comments section gematsu's & even game informer so he wasn't only in the web doing this rant session who had a weird mis understanding with these new fire emblem games.

And what exactly is up with those quotes and who are they suppose to be from?

As to quote's as I was trying to put up & show to last blade I said that a mod from siliconera that I talk to often said this below a bunch of people were acting like last blade there.

but when I was creating link to the super mash bro's & code name Steam thread some how the words Iput prior got cut off & I missed it in edit.

As to the latter part of what that mod said with his problem with atlus it's might be the fact when the come out with their titles they put out on a high price cost at times and lessen some time later & a few other across the web seem to have issues. I don't have the time to go into this. it doesn't stop them from being a cool dev's studio. but I do see alot of complaint's from time to time.

 

[Sithborg]

Does it really matter what they are saying on other sites?

 

[zenith16]

Does it really matter what they are saying on other sites?

yeah it does seeing it's what the mod was saying which I felt was important for some one like last blade to get a point a cross since he was going for most of the page it was counter to what he was saying to make clear

that while there are others like him who felt this same way this wasn't really stated to be a continuation of the first series. it's own thing also when ever I do say something people argue no matter what even if what I said is accurate & to work to prove it eve more . siliconera was one of those people fallowing this heavily & even they weren't sure if it was going to be the same universe or a new one

& that mod made it clear. if it was just me saying it. pure argument from who ever I'm talking to. So I rather it nipped in the bud / done & over with, since that what happens. Anyway it's done with . .