Superman Returns Tom Cruise....as SUPERMAN?

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

Plus, the title of the thread is misleading as hell. Ratner never said that he wanted, or the studio wanted Tom Cruise specifically as Superman. No sir. It was a figure of speech signifying that they wanted an established star, and not an unknown. Therefore, either the title of the thread should be changed, or the thread should be shut down. Pick one.

 

[VGPOP]

Plus, the title of the thread is misleading as hell. Ratner never said that he wanted, or the studio wanted Tom Cruise specifically as Superman. No sir. It was a figure of speech signifying that they wanted an established star, and not an unknown. Therefore, either the title of the thread should be changed, or the thread should be shut down. Pick one.

NEITHER.....

 

[Cinemaman]

thanks!...maybe people wont bash my comments anymore for having an x3 avvy!

Anyway, I hope GR will be better than X3.

 

[dark_b]

Anyway, I hope GR will be better than X3.

why? because ratner was directing X3?

 

[xwolverine2]

Anyway, I hope GR will be better than X3.

me too... but there two different movies.

i seriously doubt GR will surpass x3... but again, two different movies

 

[Cinemaman]

why? because ratner was directing X3?

No, I just didn't like X3. There were enough stupid scenes with Juggernaut, storylines without any scenes and I didn't like acting of actors.

 

[Kane]

JJ Abram's script was AWFUL! I've never read such a total bastardization of Superman mythos, this is what I got about it from Wikipedia:

• The story opens with a massive battle on the streets of Metropolis between Superman and a Kryptonian named Ty-Zor and his army. Ty-Zor leads Superman to an airplane hangar made entirely out of lead (the only material his X-ray vision cannot see through) and taunts him over the loudspeaker. Superman sees something off-screen and falls to the floor in pain.

• The story then flashes back to Krypton years earlier, where Ty-Zor's father, Kata-Zor, is staging a coup d'état on the planet's government and its leader, Jor-El. Jor-El manages to send his infant son, Kal-El, away in a rocket before he and wife Lara are captured. There is a kryptonian prophecy that says a "son of Krypton" will face a great trial on another world, only to return to his homeworld and become its saviour. Kata-Zor believes Jor-El is trying to evoke the prophecy so he orders Kal-El's rocket sought after. The rocket lands on the farm of Jonathan and Martha Kent, who hide the rocket and raise the child as their own son named Clark Kent. His powers manifest themselves immediately. A toddler Clark witnesses a man attempt to rape Martha, and Clark beats him within an inch of his life. In later years, Clark discovers a canister that came with his rocket. It opens to reveal a magical suit (the classic Superman suit) that stands on it own before jumping onto Clark (like the alien symbiote of Venom from Spider-Man) and attaching itself. Although it doesn't fit, Clark flies in the suit and crashes into a barn. The Kents tell him to never wear the suit again and emphasise the restraint of his powers from then on. This leads to Clark becoming an introverted youth. During a highschool party, his is bullied and almost gets into a fight. The fight is broken up by Lois Lane (Lana Lang is not mentioned in this story), a girl Clark has a crush on.

• Back on Krypton, Kata-Zor has spent the last 20 years as dictator of Krypton, who revels in torturing Jor-El and Lara because they won't reveal where Kal-El was sent. Young Ty-Zor, who is the same age as Kal-El, tortures Lara to death, much to the delight of himself and his father. On Earth, both Clark Kent and Lois Lane are now adults and work for The Daily Planet newspaper in Metropolis. Lois has been following a rogue CIA agent named Lex Luthor who investigates extra-terrestrial activity and recently claimed to be able to prove the existence of a Kryptonian on Earth. Perry White assigns Lois to interview the President of the United States on Air Force One. During the interview, the plane is damaged and about to crash. Clark, who hears about it on the radio, grabs the canister with his suit. It fits his adult body perfectly and he pulls off a daring rescue of the plane, thereby introducing himself to the public. This event is witnessed on Krypton and Ty-Zor is sent to kill Kal-El.

• Roughly a week after Superman's debut, Ty-Zor and his army arrive, bringing the story full circle. In the lead hangar, the shocking image Superman sees is Lois under water in a glass tank, tethered to chain wrapped around a kryptonite boulder. He saves her, but loses his own life in the process. A national funeral is held. On Krypton, the imprisoned Jor-El senses his son's death and kills himself. His spirit travels to Earth and informs Kal-El that he cannot die, as the prophecy has not yet been fulfilled. Superman's body regains consciousness and climbs from the grave. The resurrected Man of Steel secretly meets with United Nations leaders (who now live in fear of the Kryptonians) to organise a counter-offensive. This leads to a massive aerial battle of the Kryptonians against Superman fighter planes from 40 nations armed with kryptonite missiles.

• After Ty-Zor and his army are dead, Superman visits Lois. He explains to her that he will return to Krypton to save the planet. Before he can leave, he is confronted by Agent Lex Luthor, who assisted the Kryptonians in their take over of Earth. Luthor reveals himself to be Kryptonian. After a battle with Superman, he is defeated and imprisoned. Superman leaves for Krypton, setting up the story for what would have been the next entry in the trilogy..

You people have no right to complain about Singer after that crap. He basically saved this project's ass from turning into something like that. Geeez.

 

[M.E.H.Z.E.B]

No, I just didn't like X3. There were enough stupid scenes with Juggernaut, storylines without any scenes and I didn't like acting of actors.

What did you like? [assuming you atleast liked something about the movie]

 

[xwolverine2]

^
fine... but how is that crap of a story ratners fault?

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

^^

Its not his fault..but he was going to film it.

 

[Cinemaman]

What did you like? [assuming you atleast liked something about the movie]

I liked scene,

Spoiler

where Jean killed Xavier and where Logan killed Jean

. Thats all.

 

[Cinemaman]

^^

Its not his fault..but he was going to film it.

Yep.

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

I liked scene, where

Spoiler

Jean killed Xavier and where Logan killed Jean.

Thats all.

I suggest you spoiler those cinnemon

 

[xwolverine2]

^^

Its not his fault..but he was going to film it.

and why didnt singer?

 

[Alonsovich]

JJ Abram's script was AWFUL! I've never read such a total bastardization of Superman mythos, this is what I got about it from Wikipedia:

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You people have no right to complain about Singer after that crap. He basically saved this project's ass from turning into something like that. Geeez.

Most of that comes from the first draft of the script. I´ve read one of the further drafts and for the most part of the script it´s VERY faithful with the Superman mythos. And as I´ve said, a BIG deal of the scenes Abrams wrote have jumped into SR. If you don´t like that... it´s your problem.

 

[Cinemaman]

JJ Abram's script was AWFUL! I've never read such a total bastardization of Superman mythos, this is what I got about it from Wikipedia:
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You people have no right to complain about Singer after that crap. He basically saved this project's ass from turning into something like that. Geeez.

You are right.

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

and why didnt singer?

Because he knew it wasn't in the mythos and it didn't feel right.. i don't know..perhaps he knew the script sucked.

 

[Cinemaman]

I suggest you spoiler those cinnemon

I forgot about this. Thanks, my friend

 

[Cinemaman]

Most of that comes from the first draft of the script. I´ve read one of the further drafts and for the most part of the script it´s VERY faithful with the Superman mythos. And as I´ve said, a BIG deal of the scenes Abrams wrote have jumped into SR. If you don´t like that... it´s your problem.

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

I forgot about this. Thanks, my friend

Your welcome.

Thankyou for your co-operation.

 

[xwolverine2]

Because he knew it wasn't in the mythos and it didn't feel right.. i don't know..perhaps he knew the script sucked.

so who said brett wouldnt do the same?...

i hate to agree with whoever said your being protective....but i think its true now.

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

so who said brett wouldnt do the same?...

i hate to agree with whoever said your being protective....but i think its true now.

Because Ratner wasn't going to change the acript.

Me protective?

yes i am,and damn proud to protect this board.

 

[Cinemaman]

so who said brett wouldnt do the same?...

i hate to agree with whoever said your being protective....but i think its true now.

There are news, which were confirmed. Ratner was really going to make it. But WB wanted another director with sense, they prefered more Singer than MCG or Ratner.

 

[xwolverine2]

Because Ratner wasn't going to change the acript.

so....... are you psychic?

for all we know he couldve left because of the story too.

 

[Alonsovich]

:roller:

The baseball stadium scene where Superman lands the plane he rescues... Superman going to the blown up remains of Krypton (which is the ending of the Abrams script)... Superman staying in outer space hearing the voices crying for help... Young Kal-El discovering his powers, jumping around the corn field and crashing into the barn (the only difference here is in Abrams script he doesn´t stop from milimetres from the floor, but instead he crashes and makes a huge crater...), and some others....