Tom Hiddleston: Loki Redux - Part 1

[voyzovrezon]

In the Star Trek forum, it was discussed who they'd recast as Commander Data.
http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=24956811&postcount=5

 

[jaqua99]

sorry ladies :P :/

http://www.superherohype.com/news/a...hedon-says-loki-is-absent-from-the-avengers-2

 

[voyzovrezon]

sorry ladies :P :/

http://www.superherohype.com/news/a...hedon-says-loki-is-absent-from-the-avengers-2

Oh well. He will live on in our lusts, er, I mean hearts.

 

[voyzovrezon]

Found this link at tumblr.

http://comicbook.com/blog/2012/05/0...ston-takes-on-seven-heroes-and-two-directors/

Here's an excerpt:

When I first signed my contract to be in Thor, it was an engagement to be in Thor, and then there were five options potentially for other Marvel movies–so The Avengers is one of them, Thor 2 will be number three, so after Thor 2 there are a remaining three options to which Marvel can exercise the right to put me in other stuff.
I try not to think about that because it should be one picture at a time. I don’t want to take the story or the character for granted, and I don’t want to take the audience’s affection or disaffection for him for granted. I think if people get bored of Loki, then that’ll be it. There’s a lot of depth to the character, and if we can keep making him interesting and keep making him new and exciting every time then maybe they’ll keep going but I’m not sure that maybe being in loads of movies is a greater contribution than to be great in one of them.
The character has grown a lot–he’s very different from in Thor but there’s a continuity that’s been built that makes a lot of sense.
It was nice to be able to lay the foundation for the character in Thor and I think the thrill of playing that journey is, it’s the journey of a young man understanding the lie at the center of his childhood, which completely breaks his heart.
So actually playing Loki in Thor was an exploration of vulnerability and a kind of emotional volatility that was unpredictable. In The Avengers, that’s my springboard: Loki’s heart is broken but around his broken heart he’s built the armor of menace and mischief and self-possession so he’s become incredibly destructive and incredibly powerful. And all of his megalomania, his credentials as a badguy, come from that same, damaged place.

 

[Godzilla2000]

I have to say as a sane fangirl (Ha ha!) but between three movies I think it's time to give Loki a bit or a rest because he's getting sort of over exposed. I'm hypothesizing that Tom Hiddleston himself might like to focus on other non-Marvel projects as well. He may not want to be type cast as that guy that plays Loki all his life.

 

[voyzovrezon]

I have to say as a sane fangirl (Ha ha!) but between three movies I think it's time to give Loki a bit or a rest because he's getting sort of over exposed. I'm hypothesizing that Tom Hiddleston himself might like to focus on other non-Marvel projects as well. He may not want to be type cast as that guy that plays Loki all his life.

According to the article, he has signed a 6 film contract, although it may not be necessarily utilized as Loki. They may use him again or may not, so it looks like it depends on if Hiddleston and Marvel execs feel Loki is a profitable character and isn't being, as you say, overexposed.

 

[jaqua99]

Captain America 3 will be similar to cap 2 I'm guessing, in a mini avengers type movie..I'm gunna go out on a freakin huge limb and say cap 3 will be like a masters of evil movie that features loki in it as well, before Ultron comes into the limelight, as Ultron and Thanos fight for control of the multiverse in avengers 3

 

[Godzilla2000]

According to the article, he has signed a 6 film contract, although it may not be necessarily utilized as Loki. They may use him again or may not, so it looks like it depends on if Hiddleston and Marvel execs feel Loki is a profitable character and isn't being, as you say, overexposed.

Well, it refers to Tom's appearances as Loki accumulatively in Marvel related projects. He could appear as Loki on the SHIELD series and that would still count. Cameos in the other films would count as well.

I do have to confess I feel kind of bad for Tom Hiddleston though. Here in the U.S. I think he will only be thought of as Loki because that's just how things go here. It's less about how capable an actor you are, what brilliant roles you've played, if you are a character of the magnitude of Loki in a blockbuster that's all you'll ever be known as.

 

[LadyGeek]

sorry ladies :P :/

http://www.superherohype.com/news/a...hedon-says-loki-is-absent-from-the-avengers-2

Eek! Where's my fainting couch?

 

[Aging Fangirl]

sorry ladies :P :/

http://www.superherohype.com/news/a...hedon-says-loki-is-absent-from-the-avengers-2

Nothing to be sorry about. As I've said before, the last thing I want is for the general public to get tired of Loki. Instead of shoehorning him in to earth level MCU, save him for future Thor or cosmic level stuff. That's where he belongs anyway, IMHO.

And besides, this'll free Tom Hiddleston up for other stuff as well, thereby providing us fangirls with further opportunities to admire the range and scope of his amazing talent.

Sounds like a win-win!

 

[jonathancrane]

Hiddleston is a fine actor; while I love his performance as Loki, I still feel one of his best roles was in Warhorse. I would not mind him pursuing other genres and directors, as he is quite versatile. Besides, Loki works better in the shadows: if Marvel honors the six film contract, I would like to see him working behind the scenes - maybe with the MCU's own Cabal-and quietly orchestrating chaos. However having said that, I would like to see him redeem himself a few films from now, as in the case of the Ultimate Comics Ultimates arc or Siege (event.)

 

[Aging Fangirl]

Eek! Where's my fainting couch?

t:

 

[Aging Fangirl]

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I do have to confess I feel kind of bad for Tom Hiddleston though. Here in the U.S. I think he will only be thought of as Loki because that's just how things go here. It's less about how capable an actor you are, what brilliant roles you've played, if you are a character of the magnitude of Loki in a blockbuster that's all you'll ever be known as.

You really think so? I'm thinking (hoping) his star is just on the rise here. There's a bunch of stuff coming down the pike - or stuff that hasn't hit stateside yet - that will expose him to an even wider audience, including the non-comic book movie set. If he seemed to be having problems getting work post Loki then I'd worry, but that doesn't seem to be his problem.

And I could be wrong, but outside of thinking he looks vaguely familiar, I really don't think general audiences are going to automatically link Tom Hiddleston to Loki. He's kind of a chameleon.

 

[voyzovrezon]

And I could be wrong, but outside of thinking he looks vaguely familiar, I really don't think general audiences are going to automatically link Tom Hiddleston to Loki. He's kind of a chameleon.

General audiences perhaps not, but fangirls...oh, they'll know.

I just realized that a show my mother always watched was "Wallander." She'd have it on sometimes and I never paid attention. I read the other day that he used to be in it. I went "heh?" Seeing him as Loki though, I never made the connection.

 

[psylockolussus]

Good thing, he's not appearing in Avengers 2.

For me, he's more of a Thor character and so I think in the future, he should only appear in Thor movies.

 

[psylockolussus]

Good thing, he's not appearing in Avengers 2.

For me, he's more of a Thor character and so I think in the future, he should only appear in Thor movies.

 

[Aging Fangirl]

General audiences perhaps not, but fangirls...oh, they'll know.

Ya think? t:

I just realized that a show my mother always watched was "Wallander." She'd have it on sometimes and I never paid attention. I read the other day that he used to be in it. I went "heh?" Seeing him as Loki though, I never made the connection.

There you go! He's got a perfect actor's face. Tom Hiddleston looks radically different in almost every role I've seen him in, and he has the range - the 'chops' - to pull them all off. I think Hollywood will have a hard time labeling him and putting him in a box.

 

[voyzovrezon]

Ya think? t:



There you go! He's got a perfect actor's face. Tom Hiddleston looks radically different in almost every role I've seen him in, and he has the range - the 'chops' - to pull them all off. I think Hollywood will have a hard time labeling him and putting him in a box.

True. I find it amazing how different he looks in pics I've seen of him on other roles. Even in the upcoming "Only Lovers Left Alive" I'd have a hard time recognizing him if not for the fact I'm familiar with him now. By familiar, I mean Loki crazy.

 

[Aging Fangirl]

Good thing, he's not appearing in Avengers 2.

For me, he's more of a Thor character and so I think in the future, he should only appear in Thor movies.

Then you'll appreciate this old quote from a Collider interview with Kevin Feige, taken a few months before Thor 2 started shooting, wherein he talks about the role Loki would play in that movie:

Feige: Loki has a part, but there will be a different villain, another big villain. But you can’t do a Thor movie without Loki.

 

[Godzilla2000]

You really think so? I'm thinking (hoping) his star is just on the rise here. There's a bunch of stuff coming down the pike - or stuff that hasn't hit stateside yet - that will expose him to an even wider audience, including the non-comic book movie set. If he seemed to be having problems getting work post Loki then I'd worry, but that doesn't seem to be his problem.

And I could be wrong, but outside of thinking he looks vaguely familiar, I really don't think general audiences are going to automatically link Tom Hiddleston to Loki. He's kind of a chameleon.

American movie goers are a very unpredictable breed. Unlike in England this country has not had the same level of exposure to Tom's earlier acting roles. We were basically introduced to him as Loki and that is a mental image that usually sticks with the fangirls/boys. This sort of intense attention and attraction is usually focused on just one particular role. It wouldn't surprise me if all the bandwagon jumpers start focusing their attention on the next hot guy when Tom is no longer playing Loki in the future. It's my personal assessment that Tom's greater prestige will be as a director and Drama School instructor. Not very glamorous, high profile stuff but I'd think it would be vastly more rewarding and provide more longevity in the business than being an actor. The old 50's movie Sunset Boulevard comes to my mind when I think of the acting business. It's such an unpredictable, fickle atmosphere of employment. One year you're the toast of the town and the next you're just a useless appendage.

In closing I personally don't want to see Tom rising any higher because the fall can really hurt if you get too high. Seriously, is kissing ass and playing the political game of popularity for honors really a fulfilling life as an actor? As Betty Davis said as Margo Channing in All About Eve, "I wouldn't worry too much about your heart. You can always put that award where your heart ought to be." That's what the real Hollywood is like.

 

[Aging Fangirl]

American movie goers are a very unpredictable breed. Unlike in England this country has not had the same level of exposure to Tom's earlier acting roles. We were basically introduced to him as Loki and that is a mental image that usually sticks with the fangirls/boys. This sort of intense attention and attraction is usually focused on just one particular role. It wouldn't surprise me if all the bandwagon jumpers start focusing their attention on the next hot guy when Tom is no longer playing Loki in the future. It's my personal assessment that Tom's greater prestige will be as a director and Drama School instructor. Not very glamorous, high profile stuff but I'd think it would be vastly more rewarding and provide more longevity in the business than being an actor. The old 50's movie Sunset Boulevard comes to my mind when I think of the acting business. It's such an unpredictable, fickle atmosphere of employment. One year you're the toast of the town and the next you're just a useless appendage.

In closing I personally don't want to see Tom rising any higher because the fall can really hurt if you get too high. Seriously, is kissing ass and playing the political game of popularity for honors really a fulfilling life as an actor? As Betty Davis said as Margo Channing in All About Eve, "I wouldn't worry too much about your heart. You can always put that award where your heart ought to be." That's what the real Hollywood is like.

But I'm talking about the general audience. Our little hothouse fanboy/fangirl world seems heady and all encompassing from the inside, but believe me, very few people on the outside - a much, much larger audience, mind you, even know who Tom Hiddleston is (not talking about the UK). I want this audience to know what this guy can do.

And he seems to want this too - but for the right reasons. He loves what he does, and as with any professional with a high skill set, he wants to see how far he can go with it. As for kissing body parts to get ahead, that kind of behavior isn't limited to Hollywood. Heck, it happens at McDonalds.

 

[Jenlet]

Well, it refers to Tom's appearances as Loki accumulatively in Marvel related projects. He could appear as Loki on the SHIELD series and that would still count. Cameos in the other films would count as well.

I do have to confess I feel kind of bad for Tom Hiddleston though. Here in the U.S. I think he will only be thought of as Loki because that's just how things go here. It's less about how capable an actor you are, what brilliant roles you've played, if you are a character of the magnitude of Loki in a blockbuster that's all you'll ever be known as.

I think it'd be cool if he made some S.H.I.E.L.D. cameos. I'm not going to hold my breath, but I'll still hope for it!

 

[Godzilla2000]

I don't know...what we see in public isn't always what's going on in real life sometimes. There's a whole lot of things we don't know about the lives of high profile celebrities. It's best just to be an average Joe/Jane most of the time because you're not as much of a prisoner to an apathetic system.

 

[voyzovrezon]

As for kissing body parts to get ahead, that kind of behavior isn't limited to Hollywood. Heck, it happens at McDonalds.

You got that right!

 

[Aging Fangirl]

I don't know...what we see in public isn't always what's going on in real life sometimes. There's a whole lot of things we don't know about the lives of high profile celebrities. It's best just to be an average Joe/Jane most of the time because you're not as much of a prisoner to an apathetic system.

Had to dash off to work and didn’t get to respond earlier. Not sure I understand this. So in other words, it’s better for a hugely talented person to limit their ambition or confine themselves to lower profile aspects of their profession in order to avoid being a ‘prisoner to an apathetic system’?? That sounds like another kind of prison to me.

I think you’re equating fame with celebrity, though the two can and do overlap. Celebrities are out there in the limelight regardless of whether or not any talent is involved. They’re a dime a dozen and include the Kim Kardashians of the world. Fame is more elusive. It might come to those with talent who work hard, if they’re fortunate enough to get the exposure (the big break) they deserve. Fame outlives celebrity and can stick around for decades after the subject is gone. (Regarding that quote from Bette Davis you had on your signature earlier today - I’m very glad she didn’t become the world’s best secretary.)

That having been said, I know it isn’t all wine and roses. The business can be a meat grinder and what comes out on that end isn’t pretty, but I think it’s a combination of an individual’s motivation for being in the business in the first place, coupled with their own level of maturity, that will ultimately determine how that person handles fame and any celebrity that might come with the territory. Even Tom, who’s in it because he loves it, has said he’s glad that his current level of fame didn’t happen to him earlier in life. This is a pretty good indicator that he’s aware of the pitfalls of the business as well as his own limitations.

All in all he seems to have a level head on his shoulders. He’s not making headlines for any of the wrong reasons. He’s got a strong work ethic and isn’t prone to behind the curtain/camera theatrics. And as his level of fame has increased (and hopefully continues to increase) so has his ability to pick roles because they interest him, not because of how high or low profile they are or how much he needs to pay the rent.

He’s a big boy. I think he can handle the pressure.

(Speaking of pressure, we are under enormous pressure to keep this thread going in the absence of Loki news. C’mon somebody, throw us a bone!)