Age of Extinction Transformers 4 is going to be AWESOME. - Part 1

[DocLathropBrown]

I enjoyed the previous three films to varying degrees... Not a G1 fanboy so I was never bothered by the things others were, still the humans sucked ass in the first three.

This movie changed the game for the better. It's a bit overlong, but that's my only complaint. Bay, by having older protagonists (but mostly by having Mark Whalberg be the lead human) has shed the worst of the humor, and as others have said, the humans in this one not being worthless makes them likeable. The plot was fantastic, the villains were awesome... Liked the place the Autobots found themselves in at the start of the movie, with even Optimus having lost his faith in (and loyalty to) humans, with Whalberg reminding him of the morals Prime has lost sight of.

Frank Welker as Galvatron was awesome and LONG overdue, but only teased, really. Also, for the first time in the franchise, the Transformers didn't FEEL like second-tier to the humans. They all felt like they were equally important to the plot. The Transformers, in this film, felt like they actually got to "act," whereas the previous three films, they just felt like special effects. In AoE, the narrative gives them moments that aren't just "BIG PLOT ADVANCEMENT" bits. There's more scenes of them just interacting with each other than before, also.

The best of the films (FAR and away) so far, and actually my favorite event movie of the year so far.

 

[GremlinZilla89]

http://www.slashfilm.com/transformers-age-extinction-film-as-commerce/

I hate articles like this. These were not, and are not the only films in existence to be made like this, yet they are toted as the sole downfall of mainstream film....

The Marvel films are just as commercial, yet people find them more agreeable in style so they get a pass.

And lets not forget the cartoon was a three season long toy commercial. Pretty much like every other cartoon from that time.

 

[Lord]

The GA realy doesn't think these films are bad at all, most people i know love them and "don't get the hate"

 

[ShadowBoxer]

This movie's plot gettings dumber and dumber the more you think about it. There are plot hole and things that make you go what the heck??? I just thought about the fact that Optimus just lets the dinobots roam free at the end of the movie. They could seriously kill everyone human and animal in the area why not tell the other autobots to keep an eye on them!

 

[roach]

This movie's plot gettings dumber and dumber the more you think about it. There are plot hole and things that make you go what the heck??? I just thought about the fact that Optimus just lets the dinobots roam free at the end of the movie. They could seriously kill everyone human and animal in the area why not tell the other autobots to keep an eye on them!

Why? Did they kill every human and animal they saw?

 

[Nathan]

Prime requiring repairs, but suddenly being good as new by just scanning another vehicle, was a much bigger head scratcher.

 

[Marvin]

Prime requiring repairs, but suddenly being good as new by just scanning another vehicle, was a much bigger head scratcher.

I thought when he was found he was in stasis and had spark chamber damage. I would imagine after that is fixed, self repairs(however clearly superficial) aren't all that difficult.

 

[Marvolo]

Prime requiring repairs, but suddenly being good as new by just scanning another vehicle, was a much bigger head scratcher.

That made me scratch my head at first too, but remember Prime said that before he knew Cade could fix him. Once Cade worked on him a bit Prime was able to scan a vehicle and fix the rest of the damage himself.

 

[Nathan]

And yet Bumblebee still can't talk. Apparently their self repair function can take care of the gravest injuries, with exception of the voice module.

 

[Marvolo]

And yet Bumblebee still can't talk. Apparently their self repair function can take care of the gravest injuries, with exception of the voice module.

That's just Bay. He doesn't care if it makes sense. Bee talks with a radio in his universe, and will as long as he is in charge logic and plot be damned.

Weekend Report: Fourth 'Transformers' Opens to $300 Million Worldwide

At the domestic box office, the fourth installment in the immensely successful franchise opened to an estimated $100 million. That's the biggest opening of the year so far ahead of Captain America: The Winter Soldier ($95 million).

More importantly, it took in over $201 million from 37 international markets. That includes a stunning $90 million in China, which is the biggest "foreign" opening ever there (and probably the biggest overall, though we don't have data to confirm that).

Overall, the movie earned over $300 million worldwide this weekend. With openings throughout Europe and Latin America on the way, Transformers: Age of Extinction seems poised to make a run at $1 billion.


The movie's audience was 64 percent male and 58 percent were 25 years of age and over. They awarded it an "A-" CinemaScore, which is in contrast to its abysmal 17 percent rating on Rotten Tomatoes.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3865&p=.

Two things we know from this:

1. There will be more Transformer films from Michael Bay.

2. Critics are entirely out of touch with the general audience.

 

[TheVileOne]

Boobies and Muscles and Racist Robots?

Yes.

I don't know, seems like plenty of people got excited about them.
Can't speak for everyone though, but it seemed that way.

I could give two ****s. Am I talking about plenty of people? I am only talking about myself. I love Transformers and the Dinobots, and I'm disappointed with how they are portrayed here. I didn't expect much better honestly.

Two things we know from this:

1. There will be more Transformer films from Michael Bay.

2. Critics are entirely out of touch with the general audience.

Obviously not entirely. Critics liked Captain America 2 and The Avengers did they not? It's not like Bay hasn't made box office bombs before because he has. His career was kind of in decline before Transformers. Pearl Harbor was not the raving hit everyone thought it would be. Some thought it would be the next Saving Private Ryan. In interviews, Bay almost seemed disappointed he was back doing Bad Boys stuff because he thought Pearl Harbor would earn him a lot of acclaim.

Obviously Bay and what he does with these films appealing to the lowest common denominator for whatever reason works and appeals to a low of moviegoers. And quite frankly so do a lot of dog**** films.

I've seen just as many disheartened reactions of people getting upset about how great little seen movies that HEY CRITICS LIKE get almost no love from general audiences.

 

[MadVillainy]

That's just Bay. He doesn't care if it makes sense. Bee talks with a radio in his universe, and will as long as he is in charge logic and plot be damned.

Weekend Report: Fourth 'Transformers' Opens to $300 Million Worldwide



Two things we know from this:

1. There will be more Transformer films from Michael Bay.

2. Critics are entirely out of touch with the general audience.

Even though I liked this one, I wish Bay would do something else. The thing is I dont even dislike Bay that much. Armageddon is f***ing awful, I couldnt even make it through the whole movie. ROTF and DOTM were bad. But I did like Bad Boys and Bad Boys II and I think Pain and Gain was great. I really wanna see him do something else. I heard he wants to do a story about the poaching of African Elephants which sounds great.

 

[Marvolo]

Yes.



I could give two ****s. Am I talking about plenty of people? I am only talking about myself. I love Transformers and the Dinobots, and I'm disappointed with how they are portrayed here. I didn't expect much better honestly.



Obviously not entirely. Critics liked Captain America 2 and The Avengers did they not? It's not like Bay hasn't made box office bombs before because he has. His career was kind of in decline before Transformers. Pearl Harbor was not the raving hit everyone thought it would be. Some thought it would be the next Saving Private Ryan. In interviews, Bay almost seemed disappointed he was back doing Bad Boys stuff because he thought Pearl Harbor would earn him a lot of acclaim.

Obviously Bay and what he does with these films appealing to the lowest common denominator for whatever reason works and appeals to a low of moviegoers. And quite frankly so do a lot of dog**** films.

I've seen just as many disheartened reactions of people getting upset about how great little seen movies that HEY CRITICS LIKE get almost no love from general audiences.

I'm speaking about this movie not Avengers or any other movie. When it comes to Transformers AOE the critics do not line up with the general audience. I can't help but feel some schadenfreude about all this. The critics despise these films and spend their time reviewing it and pretty much the general audience gives them the finger and make this film a success and ensure more Transformer films get made that the critics will hate and so on and so forth. It's all a massive "**** you" to the critics and the haters.

That being said, I really wouldn't mind another director's take on the
material. This film was absolutely exhausting and I was so numb by the end that when the end came it just felt like Bay said "ok that's enough splosions roll credits." I mean what happened to Lockdown's ship and the rest of his crew, and the Seed?

 

[Marvin]

I could give two ****s. Am I talking about plenty of people? I am only talking about myself.

I see now. Looking at the post in particular, it read to me that you were estimating 'for plenty of people'. If you meant that you yourself had a hard time getting excited...that's very different. I have a hard time getting excited for say GoG, I can see how others might.

As for the stamp, luckily bay did none of the above with the dinos.

Obviously not entirely. Critics liked Captain America 2 and The Avengers did they not? It's not like Bay hasn't made box office bombs before because he has. His career was kind of in decline before Transformers. Pearl Harbor was not the raving hit everyone thought it would be. Some thought it would be the next Saving Private Ryan. In interviews, Bay almost seemed disappointed he was back doing Bad Boys stuff because he thought Pearl Harbor would earn him a lot of acclaim.

Obviously Bay and what he does with these films appealing to the lowest common denominator for whatever reason works and appeals to a low of moviegoers. And quite frankly so do a lot of dog**** films.

I wouldn't classify myself nor anyone else as the lowest anything. I think that's kinda lame tbh. People like different things when it comes to entertainment. Looking forward to that new 'The interview' film and I don't expect it to be some thought provoking venture. Just entertainment, silly or otherwise.

Interesting point about history of bay though. I'm not sure his career was on the decline, I do know he had two poorly received films that both aimed to appeal to 'critics' if you will. It's only when he want back into his wheel house with this stuff that things got back on track(see one of the most successful/big directors...etc), he could have easily jumped back into any sure thing(badboys3). What's more, I'm not of the mind that TF was some sure hit without Bay. GiJoe and most any cbm have just as big a chance, and ILM alone does plenty of films that resonate with no one.

American movie goers put entertainment way before quality and this much is hardly new(which is fine by me). If it were any different, the oscar season would be the big fiscal grosser and less complex effects driven films like avengers or whatever tent pole would come in behind Dalls Buyers and 12 years. This reality only becomes an issue when things go to far...it seems anyways.

 

[Marvin]

Even though I liked this one, I wish Bay would do something else. The thing is I dont even dislike Bay that much. Armageddon is f***ing awful, I couldnt even make it through the whole movie. ROTF and DOTM were bad. But I did like Bad Boys and Bad Boys II and I think Pain and Gain was great. I really wanna see him do something else. I heard he wants to do a story about the poaching of African Elephants which sounds great.

If I had my way, bay would never make a sequel to any of his films.

 

[Loki882]

Having had a couple of days to mull things over, here are my deeper thoughts. This wasn't as bad as ROTF and DOTM. It wasn't really a GOOD movie, but it was a step up and showed SOME potential.

-It has a genuinely interesting premise.
-A lot of the more offensive things from the other films are toned down.
-Mark Wahlberg is a big step up from Shia LaBeouf.
-Lockdown was cool.
-The Transformers actually got some characterization.
-Kelsey Grammer and Titus Welliver make for really good villains, and Stanley Tucci was entertaining as well.
-The action was staged better so that you could actually tell what was going on and who was who.

The movie was still ridiculous, stupid, nonsensical, and way WAY too long. Also, Bay couldn't portray a good female character if his life depended on it. But still, it's less awful than the last two (I actually enjoyed the first one). What's a shame is that it's been shown in other mediums that you can do a Transformers story that's good a fairly intelligent plot with interesting characters. And we've already had several "summer blockbusters" come out this year that have reasonably intelligent premises/scripts with good/interesting characters, and they were all praised by both critics and audience-members, so it can be done. A more talented filmmaker could probably do some really good things with this franchise. Heck, if Bay could even make a Transformers movie on the level of The Rock, or Bad Boys, or Pain & Gain, then we might have something.

 

[roach]

If I had my way, bay would never make a sequel to any of his films.

This is his last one right...i know he said the third one was the last one but when Paramount gives you a lot of money it's hard to turn it down

 

[def28]

This is his last one right...i know he said the third one was the last one but when Paramount gives you a lot of money it's hard to turn it down

Yeah, he can do whatever he wants in between films, then get the cash with another sequel. With the constant success in box office Paramounts gonna want to keep him on board at any cost.

He's got two left tops though.

 

[MadVillainy]

Yeah, he can do whatever he wants in between films, then get the cash with another sequel. With the constant success in box office Paramounts gonna want to keep him on board at any cost.

He's got two left tops though.

Yeah I'd bet he'd leave if this goes to be another trilogy

 

[LostSon88]

Two things we know from this:

1. There will be more Transformer films from Michael Bay.

2. Critics are entirely out of touch with the general audience.

That are the general audience could care less what they think when it comes to this series.

 

[Marvin]

That are the general audience could care less what they think when it comes to this series.

Maybe due in part to past experience..when it comes to this series.

 

[warhorse78]

And yet Bumblebee still can't talk. Apparently their self repair function can take care of the gravest injuries, with exception of the voice module.

Blame Spielberg for that one.

 

[Avangarde]

-the creator ships land on Earth 65 millions years ago. we see dinos being destroyed
-present time Lockdown hunts robots in the universe. he catches robots who were on Earth in dino form. i made this up. this is not in the movie.
-they hang on chains inside the ship.
-Optimus gets the big sword and becomes the ''knight''. a knight needs a horse to ride into battle. i made this up.


it makes no sense. but thats the point of TF4. t:

Lol, still doesn't make sense to me but whatever.

 

[Avangarde]

And yet Bumblebee still can't talk. Apparently their self repair function can take care of the gravest injuries, with exception of the voice module.

I think he can talk he just chooses not to, although I'm pretty sure we did hear Bee talk a couple of lines himself in the film that could easily be mistaken for radio chatter. I'm pretty sure when Galvatron transforms to avoid Bee's missiles on the highway chase Bee turns and says "What was that?"

 

[Marvin]

Blame Spielberg for that one.

There is probably some hasbro research paper that suggests more bee toy are sold to more kids if they continue to play this gimmick up.
just my guess.