Revenge of the Fallen Transformers: ROTF User Review Thread

[nintendo nerd]

I don't...but it's kind of hard to ignore the writing on the wall when TF2 has made obscene amounts of money so far....is the movie the best of the year, hardly...but it is successful and apparently people seem to like it

- Britney Spears is successful.

- Jonas Brothers are succesful



Successful does not mean good. The movie had great marketing campaigns plus the first one left a good taste on most of the people. I guarantee you that the third one won't make as much as the first two, because of how bad ROFT is.

 

[BlackLantern]

I really don't expect a third one

 

[knowsbleed]

Michael Bay movies that contain humor and action will do well at the BO. Your guarantee doesn't hold that much weight.

 

[dark_b]

Do I think the Wrestler should have been nominated? Yes. But just because Sean Penn played a gay character doesn't mean he didn't deserve it. His performance was fantastic. If that dictum were true then everyone in "To Wong Foo Thanks For Everything, Julie Newmar" would have nabbed an Oscar.

This flick. I don't feel like going through your posts but your constant, gushing praise starts to blend together. And why should TF have won for special effects in 2007? Because its effects were the most expensive? There's a difference between most extravagant special effects and the best special effects. But Michael Bay fans always confuse extravagance and large amounts of money with quality.

but everyone knew that Penn would win. and we know why he did.


people on the CGI industry think that TF should win the oscar. its not just on SHH forum.

 

[CelticPredator]

LOL.....I still loved this movie. I this *****ing is hilarious. But not unjustifyed.

 

[CelticPredator]

Oh yeah, and aside from Davy Jones from POTC, Transformers has the best CGI ever created. And so does ROTF. (throw in King Kong too)

 

[terry78]

Oh yeah, and aside from Davy Jones from POTC, Transformers has the best CGI ever created. And so does ROTF. (throw in King Kong too)

Yeah, but people will argue because they're robots it wasn't as hard. Inorganic stuff will always be easier to do, but they managed to give some weight to the characters, they didn't feel like they were just in the background or moved stiffly or floaty. Bumblebee literally could be right next to you.

 

[knowsbleed]

Exactly... Optimus was a heavy handed mother****er.





His pimp hand was strong.

 

[danoyse]

but everyone knew that Penn would win. and we know why he did.

Politics aside, Sean Penn was phenonmenal in that movie. I was rooting for Mickey too, but if he had to lose to anyone, I'm glad it was Sean Penn.

Back on topic...I finally saw ROTF this morning. It was good, but I liked the first movie better. Thought the action sequences were fantastic, but it seemed like the rest of the script was written by a group of 13-year-old boys, which is probably an insult to 13-year-old boys everywhere.

It's like the story they had was shorter than the runtime, and they just filled the rest of it in with a lot of dopey unnecessary stuff (like the goofy roommate, the annoying twins, and Sam's parents have wayyyy to much screentime).

But again, I loved the action sequences. That definitely made up for the rest of it, especially the last half-hour or so.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

Yeah, I was rooting for Mickey Rourke as much as anyone, but I'm not going to deny Sean Penn credit for his incredible acting. Would I have preferred that Mickey won? Definitely. But both men truly deserved it.

 

[Chris B]

I saw it for the second time today and I still enjoyed it. Though I did notice the plot holes and them reusing CGI models more than I did first time around.

 

[BlackLantern]

Exactly... Optimus was a heavy handed mother****er.

His pimp hand was strong.

Indeed

 

[The Guard]

Which would amount to one thing: in the six seconds that serve as the film's denouement, Sam would be standing alone instead of standing with Optimus. The promise of change to come is worth something, sure, but you've been trying to sell me on the relevance of Sam's story in the body of the film--but besides that six seconds, it isn't there. That conflict does not drive the film, and it probably should have.

That's like me saying that if Batman didn't kill Dent and take the blame for his crimes, nothing would have changed in THE DARK KNIGHT, except that he wouldn't have been running from the cops. I think the promise of things to come is fairly important in context, though.

Yes, they probably could have had him "struggle" a bit more with his potential paths.

If I expected any level of competent follow through, that might be enough for me. But I don't.

Competent follow through in terms of...the resolution of the arc?
not sure I follow you entirely.
I'm saying...he starts the movie as someone who obviously doesn't want to be involved in the kind of danger and risk the autobots war involves.
Now let's say he did what he did, but not for the autobots.
Wouldn't he still have essentially changed and developed as a character, based on where he began the film?

But not necessarily as a matter of principle. It could have easily been a matter of practicality. He already new he had information that was important somehow, and he knew that if the Decepticon's wanted it, it was probably to do something that wouldn't be good for him in the long run.

I just said he has a choice. I said nothing about principle VS practicaility.

I meant exactly what I said: if you show someone a tree, and you show someone paper, you haven't shown that person that paper is made from trees. You've shown them something, but not enough to actually qualify as showing them that paper comes from trees. You've only told them that. That's how the film feels to me.

I see.

 

[Episode29]

people on the CGI industry think that TF should win the oscar. its not just on SHH forum.

They do? Who exactly are these industry people making their opinions so audibly known?

I'd wait and see how Avatar turns out before crying over RotF's Oscar worthiness.

 

[BlackLantern]

I think, as far as the first films VFX nomination, Hollywood just didn't want to give the Oscar to a movie about giant robots directed by Michael Bay

 

[Episode29]

I think, as far as the first films VFX nomination, Hollywood just didn't want to give the Oscar to a movie about giant robots directed by Michael Bay

Yeah, it's especially odd considering the category is voted on solely by artists working within the special effects field...

 

[protocida]

Was the Fallen draining Energon from the Hatchlings on Mars/Saturn?

 

[BlackLantern]

elitist attitudes exist, no matter the field....personal feelings and the like always get in the way....and Im fairly sure those voters in the tech categories are advised on how to vote by those higher on the totem pole

 

[Episode29]

elitist attitudes exist, no matter the field....personal feelings and the like always get in the way....and Im fairly sure those voters in the tech categories are advised on how to vote by those higher on the totem pole

Let's remember that Michael Bay isn't known for his jovial temperment. Who knows how many people he's pissed off... Old wounds tend to stay open in Hollywood. Just ask Elia Kazan.

 

[roach]

While money does not equal quality I dont think anyone at Paramount is thinking about retooling the franchise.Money however equals that people not only went to see this movie but they enjoyed it enough to see it again.

 

[terry78]

Saw it on Imax again today....the forest battle was very well done shot in that fashion. You felt like you were right there looking up at Optimus and the 'Cons battling it out in the forest, as the screen is about 8 stories tall and they take up the whole of it.

 

[Episode29]

While money does not equal quality I dont think anyone at Paramount is thinking about retooling the franchise.Money however equals that people not only went to see this movie but they enjoyed it enough to see it again.

[shameless plug/]I agree, and said as much on the new episode of the Hype! Cast in which we reviewed Revenge of the Fallen. Check it out![\shameless plug].

 

[gtkilla]

Awesome

Best movie I've seen all year.

btw, I still haven't seen Star Trek before someone jumps at me.

 

[Iron_Stark]

I saw it for a third time today.

Next time, Imax.

 

[BlackLantern]

yes roach, but according to some, those of us that liked it are horrible people with no class or morals and are contributing to the downfall of cinema......and we also eat kittens