Revenge of the Fallen Transformers: ROTF User Review Thread

[BlackLantern]

yea and Brainiac had polar bear bodyguards and a giant spider...

 

[Balthus Dire]

yea and Brainiac had polar bear bodyguards and a giant spider...

Yeah I heard about that, but I never heard about him carrying his suit in a can of worms hahahahaha that's so damn funny...

 

[Marvin]

Hahaha what?? I must hear more of this...

you'd have to search for it over at ain't it cool news, moriarty reviewed it and the outcry actually made it to the studio a few years back

it's pretty old news but it happend.

 

[Avangarde]

I have been holding off from doing a review until I watched it for a second time, hoping it would change my opinion, unfortunately it didn't.

The start of the movie was good, it was well paced, had great action, and set the whole premise for the movie with the Decepticons attempting to regroup and the Autobots making a life for themselves on Earth. All the while the human centered characters were continuing with life as business as usual with school, work, and relationships. I enjoyed how the Decepticons went about their revival, the addition of Soundwave was perfect for the role of surveillance/strategist. Everything was moving along well up until the end of the forest battle, which was by far one of the best fight scenes I have ever seen. However things went downhill from there. Loosing Prime for pretty much the last half of the movie was stupid, one of the only robots that we could relate to was gone and I felt the movie become scattered. Bumblebee was reduced down to a dog on a leash, pathetic really when he was meant to bridge the gap between the humans and the robots. In the blink of an eye everyone is in Egypt looking for the Matrix with the help of Jetfire, I liked the idea of the Seekers laying dormant around Earth, makes you wonder who else could be in hiding that may be used in the future. Just about everything in the second half of the movie was rubbish, the fight sequences were great to watch, but that doesn't make up for the lack of character development, and weak plot filled with holes.

This movie I felt was worse then the first, the first had heart and, while not great, some form of development in the characters. I'm not sure where the writers were trying to take this, perhaps Bays influence on the script is what hurt it. If there is a third (which I'm sure will be) I hope the writers are left alone to make the story, Bay clearly has no idea of structure and balance for characters. A shame really, I was hoping this would be closer to "my" Transformers.

4/10

 

[BlackLantern]

it was something like, the suit was different parts or a living organism that attached to him or something

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_(film_series)#Proposals_for_fifth_film

some proposals for Superman films - post Superman IV

 

[AnorexicBatman]

It's no longer about personal opinion. It's no longer about fanboys *****ing.
The way I see it, Bay has made a mockery of the industry

He has proved that once and for all that you do NOT need talent to be a successful director in Hollywood. You just need to have tons of cash from gullible producers (Asteroid's movie? really? In place of METAL GEAR SOLID starring Bat-Bale?) and appeal to the lowest and most stupidest demographic since they seem to be in abundance

Megan Fox was right. Bay has no right to call her out on bashing the movie

 

[Avangarde]

Megan Fox was right. Bay has no right to call her out on bashing the movie

For real?

 

[AnorexicBatman]

Yup. I so want to give her a nice big platonic hug!

 

[Avangarde]

Kudos to Megan then, I'm glad she's not one of those "just stand there and look pretty" actors. She did get a pretty mediocre role for TF2, she's probably feels like it was a step back from the first movie.

 

[The Original Bamfer]

Granted, she's not a good actress, but she has a point - the film's not about that. Bay's being the real diva in all of this, spouting out all of that 'I created you!' ********.

 

[BlackLantern]

good on her for making her feelings known, but Im sure if Bay really thought anyone would take her seriously, he has enough pull to see that she doesn't do anything more than a shampoo commercial from here on out....I did like her in 'How to Lose Friends and Alienate People'...a lot of people crap on it, but I like that movie

 

[Marvin]

It's no longer about personal opinion. It's no longer about fanboys *****ing.
The way I see it, Bay has made a mockery of the industry

He has proved that once and for all that you do NOT need talent to be a successful director in Hollywood. You just need to have tons of cash from gullible producers (Asteroid's movie? really? In place of METAL GEAR SOLID starring Bat-Bale?) and appeal to the lowest and most stupidest demographic since they seem to be in abundance

Megan Fox was right. Bay has no right to call her out on bashing the movie

is it because the film is so big, and or doing so well?

because it seems that when other people make an ok fun movie about nothing.. cough ratner, nothing happens

but this bay s#%t, always brings out the fight in people.

he made a fun movie for kids, based a toy line with the name hasbro in the opening credits and now he's making a mockery of the industry?

I'm very curious how bay is the son of the devil and this stuff

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just goes down as a fun movie no one really talks about

megan fox, decided to call this movie out on it's lack of acting material, that's fine, improv isn't the easiest thing but give maggie gylenhall(sp) an oscar for DK.

I wonder how the actors in disaster movie feel about their roles and still, lack of careers

everyone starts somewhere, even will smith and last I checked he's looking to come back for Bad boys 3

get some perspective, even james earl jones does fun movies form time to time, he donesn't turn around and belittle them to look smart because the public thinks he's just another pretty face

 

[Sarge 2.0]

the 402 Million its made so far don't indicate it needs any "shining through"...you all can be as cynical as you want about box office and how money doesnt = quality, but this thing is making ****loads of money....its making cocaine cartel money...I heard Bay is going to buy a jetpack....made of platinum

And yet money still does not equal quality.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

is it because the film is so big, and or doing so well?

because it seems that when other people make an ok fun movie about nothing.. cough ratner, nothing happens

but this bay s#%t, always brings out the fight in people.

he made a fun movie for kids, based a toy line with the name hasbro in the opening credits and now he's making a mockery of the industry?

I'm very curious how bay is the son of the devil and this stuff


just goes down as a fun movie no one really talks about

megan fox, decided to call this movie out on it's lack of acting material, that's fine, improv isn't the easiest thing but give maggie gylenhall(sp) an oscar for DK.

I wonder how the actors in disaster movie feel about their roles and still, lack of careers

everyone starts somewhere, even will smith and last I checked he's looking to come back for Bad boys 3

get some perspective, even james earl jones does fun movies form time to time, he donesn't turn around and belittle them to look smart because the public thinks he's just another pretty face

You would be taken more seriously if you could come up with strong, articulate points. Not that you would be right if you were even the slightest bit articulate, but it would make you look a little more credible.

Only a little though.

 

[Balthus Dire]

It's no longer about personal opinion. It's no longer about fanboys *****ing.
The way I see it, Bay has made a mockery of the industry

He has proved that once and for all that you do NOT need talent to be a successful director in Hollywood. You just need to have tons of cash from gullible producers (Asteroid's movie? really? In place of METAL GEAR SOLID starring Bat-Bale?) and appeal to the lowest and most stupidest demographic since they seem to be in abundance

Megan Fox was right. Bay has no right to call her out on bashing the movie

Yes, you are so right. Michael Bay is single handedly responsible for the downfall of "creative" Hollywood. It was all a part of his master plan to create action-packed summer blockbusters that would slowly degrade society over years and years until they would eventually be "dumb" enough to enjoy Transformers and he could spring his master trap once and for all with Transformers 2. Because according to you, anyone who likes Transformers 2 is "an idiot".

I think this is like the third time I've said this to you, but I'll say it again: give me a break.

 

[Marvin]

You would be taken more seriously if you could come up with strong, articulate points. Not that you would be right if you were even the slightest bit articulate, but it would make you look a little more credible.

Only a little though.

1. I don't find the need to pull rogerian style rhetoric structure when i'm on these boards with this alias, I just like letting it spew
it's less stressful. I'll save that for my world lit class.
(I love seeing guard do his thing but if I put any thought into structure during my time spent here, I'd considering it wasting my time)

2. i don't come here looking for people to consider me credible, I've grown out of that phase.
Think of me what you will.

 

[The Lizard]

TF:ROTF is indeed a very divisive movie, I'll admit that.

Even its own cast and crew can't agree on its quality. http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/us-magazine-megan-fox-bay.html

BTW, I love the part in that article where Michael Bay claims that The Rock was the movie that made Nicholas Cage a "big actor". LOL

 

[MadVillainy]

ok, Bay is an idiot for thinking he made all those careers. I mean sure he helped them (which any high grossing movie does), but no he didnt make them
But I will say he did make Megan Fox's career. She did smaller roles before Transformers but she wasnt a mainstream as she is now

About Megan saying the movie isnt about acting
1) this is true
2) she cant act anyways
3) it just comes off real stupid to be talking bad about a movie series that gave you your last 2 huge paychecks. No, its not like she said "F Transformers its a stupid movie" but it comes off to me as stupid to say something bad about your 2 biggest movies that landed you your next 2 roles (Jennifers Body and Jonah Hex) that dont seem like they'll require much acting either.

If I was Bay I would be pissed I'd say "Not to sh** on Megan Fox's career or anything, but we all know her roles aren't about acting"

Shes all shock value anyways

 

[Marvin]

which ones didn't he make?

 

[Jake Cassidy]

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/236275-botcon-2009-movie-q-session.html

Thanks

 

[BlackLantern]

TF:ROTF is indeed a very divisive movie, I'll admit that.

Even its own cast and crew can't agree on its quality. http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/us-magazine-megan-fox-bay.html

BTW, I love the part in that article where Michael Bay claims that The Rock was the movie that made Nicholas Cage a "big actor". LOL

I don't think it made his career, but I do think it opened doors for Cage in the action genre that weren't previously open before....as for Will Smith, its a toss up between Independence Day and Bad Boys....Bad Boys got him noticed, Independence Day and Enemy of the State (one of my favorites, so Im biased towards the film) made him a star

 

[Anti-Moderator]

Everyone knows that The Fresh Prince of Bel Air made Will Smith the huge star he is today.

 

[bell110]

TF:ROTF is indeed a very divisive movie, I'll admit that.

Even its own cast and crew can't agree on its quality. http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/us-magazine-megan-fox-bay.html

BTW, I love the part in that article where Michael Bay claims that The Rock was the movie that made Nicholas Cage a "big actor". LOL

LOL, Bay is so nuts. He obviously lives in his own little world. I'm surprised he's no taking credit for launching Sean Connery or Bruce Willis' career as well. And I love his reaction about Fox. It's basically, "Pfff, she's just a stupid little kid".

As for Fox's comments, I don't think she was trying to be insulting. She's basically saying what everybody who defends this movie is saying; it's just supposed to be a big, dumb, fun action movie. She just said it in her own... uhhhh... special way? Anyways, I'll love to go out and have a few beers with her. She says such off the wall things sometimes, I bet she's a barrel of monkeys.

Here's two great links about Michael Bay:

Everyday life directed by Michael Bay:
http://www.cracked.com/article_17527_if-everyday-life-was-directed-by-michael-bay.html

And Michael Bay brings the Great Gatsby to the big screen:
http://www.cracked.com/blog/storyboards-from-michael-bays-the-great-gatsby/
Wasn't Bay saying he wanted to do a serious movie, LOL.

 

[BlackLantern]

Everyday life directed by Michael Bay:
http://www.cracked.com/article_17527_if-everyday-life-was-directed-by-michael-bay.html

I'm not seeing the bad here

 

[Godman]

Damn, that was BRILLIANT !!!! I agree with everyting you said 100% !!!!

Thanks. Now don't get me wrong, but Hollywood does still have it's gems that come out once in a while. Star Trek was actually entertaining and all the CG felt needed where it was. I felt they should have had more epic battles, but these days even getting what we got was something. The Dark Knight worked because it had absolutely no gimmicks and was a very engaging script that the director didn't think "summer blockbuster", but "Oscar" and that is how movies should ALL be made. Even E.T. had the depth, emotional complex, humor, and adventure that movies like The Lion King had and will be remembered for. The Lion King one an Oscar almost as the best movie of that year period let alone in the animation category like Wall E. Pixar really take their stories to another level. Honestly now that I have seen a live action transformers that I don't truly take to heart. what if Pixar took a crack at it with the serious yet humorous tone of Wall E and UP. They could pull it off, but honestly I believe the only two directors so far who could have done what BAY lacks in grandeur is Spielberg himself and James Cameron. Ridley Scott is pretty good.