Age of Ultron Ultron! We Would Have Words With Thee! Official Thor/Chris Hemworth Thread

[seahammer]

Anyways, as to Thor's power, I'm thinking the best way to justify his poor power showing post Thor 1, is that he's sooooo powerful that it's actually a detriment. He has to hold waaaaay the hell back in fear of completely leveling a city he's supposed to protect, or to avoid team killing. The most powerful feat we've seen from him was the Jotunheim buster, and that was when he was still arrogant. And even then, he was aware enough to give his companions a head start before he unleashed it.

In Avengers and even Thor 2, he just hasn't had the chance or justification to let loose like that. He's going to put himself at a severe disadvantage to avoid harming those that aren't his enemy. I just hope he gets Ultron nice and isolated at some point, so he can let loose some earth shattering lightning blast or Mjolnir strike.

I wouldn't mind Thor actually mentioning this. He can tell his comrades how he's been holding back since he regained Mjolnir in Thor 1 because he learned that "might doesn't make right" or whatever, and that in NYC and London he had to be cautious so he didn't pull a Jotunheim and level the cities, but extreme times call for extreme measures so now he really has to cut loose against Ultron.

To give everyone their due in AOU, I hope that Thor and Hulk are both kept busy by Ultron throwing wave after wave of drones at them, while the less powerful heroes are facing something that suits their powers better.

 

[seahammer]

Dude if Thor summons lighting without Mjolnir I might literally start foaming at the mouth.

Agreed!

 

[ciscostudent561]

I'm still kind of weirded out by it too, but I suppose the Hulk and Thor need some kind of weakness. Plus Thor has been fooled by the Enchantress before, so he is susceptible to mental f***ery.

But because they're probably going to have to incapacitate the heaviest hitters somehow so that Ultron doesn't get stomped before getting his vibranium, I'll be okay with Wanda having that kind of power.

I'm not even sure that has been confirmed yet. Not sure what's just a rumor anymore. But it seems like a logical step for the movie to take.

Anyways, as to Thor's power, I'm thinking the best way to justify his poor power showing post Thor 1, is that he's sooooo powerful that it's actually a detriment. He has to hold waaaaay the hell back in fear of completely leveling a city he's supposed to protect, or to avoid team killing. The most powerful feat we've seen from him was the Jotunheim buster, and that was when he was still arrogant. And even then, he was aware enough to give his companions a head start before he unleashed it.

In Avengers and even Thor 2, he just hasn't had the chance or justification to let loose like that. He's going to put himself at a severe disadvantage to avoid harming those that aren't his enemy. I just hope he gets Ultron nice and isolated at some point, so he can let loose some earth shattering lightning blast or Mjolnir strike.

thanks!

I agree with them needing a way to slow down Thor and Hulk but Whedon is an excellent writer he doesn't have to undermine Thor and Hulk to help his story.

 

[ciscostudent561]

I wouldn't mind Thor actually mentioning this. He can tell his comrades how he's been holding back since he regained Mjolnir in Thor 1 because he learned that "might doesn't make right" or whatever, and that in NYC and London he had to be cautious so he didn't pull a Jotunheim and level the cities, but extreme times call for extreme measures so now he really has to cut loose against Ultron.

To give everyone their due in AOU, I hope that Thor and Hulk are both kept busy by Ultron throwing wave after wave of drones at them, while the less powerful heroes are facing something that suits their powers better.

thank youuu I'm with you on that too!!! It's hard to keep Thor and Hulk just busy from a physical battle perspective. There's also the mental and emotional struggles to keep them busy.

 

[HKpowerup]

I just hope he gets Ultron nice and isolated at some point, so he can let loose some earth shattering lightning blast or Mjolnir strike.

That would be really cool to see. A massively powerful lightning-charged Mjolnir strike on Ultron that doesn't do anything to the mad robot, followed by a creepy or maybe even sarcastic remark from Ultron???

 

[ciscostudent561]

That would be really cool to see. A massively powerful lightning-charged Mjolnir strike on Ultron that doesn't do anything to the mad robot, followed by a creepy or maybe even sarcastic remark from Ultron???

as long there is massive collateral damage to display the devastation and demonstration of the power

 

[HKpowerup]

as long there is massive collateral damage to display the devastation and demonstration of the power

That would be awesome to see but I doubt they'll make Thor (or even Hulk) that strong in the MCU. I could see something like that happening in a future Superman movie though, or in a future JL movie with just such a Superman scene. They made Superman be THAT strong in MoS, where you could see very visible shockwaves when he was punching Zod. Awesome.

 

[ciscostudent561]

If Thor admits to always holding back then goes full force and we see shock wave forces and earth shattering combat in an evacuated area I think it would be logical and cool.

 

[mc7791]

I do hope that they do show that Thor is holding back somehow. We need to see a demonstration of his full power somehow. Whedon can figure this out and put it in the movie. I am sure that he knows how.

 

[seahammer]

^ yeah, everyone's been assuming that Thor will have the smallest role of all the characters in this film. IF that's true (hopefully not), I hope joss compensates by giving him some awesome showings.

 

[ThePhantasm]

I think everyone just assumes that because Thor was so forgettable in the first Avengers film.

 

[Loki882]

No, it's more just an educated guess based off of the available evidence:

-Tony is obviously going to get a lot to do because he created Ultron.
-Cap is Cap, so he's getting a big role (especially if they want to start sowing the seeds for Civil War).
-Whedon has already said that Black Widow and Hawkeye have big/critical roles.
-Mark Ruffalo has said that Banner gets more to do this time around.
-Whedon specifically wanted to bring in the Twins, so he's not going to then give them the shaft character-wise.

Meanwhile we haven't heard much about Thor's role and he's the only one who doesn't have any kind of personal connection to these events. So while I do not doubt that he'll get cool stuff to do, him being the one who gets the least development this time around is not an unreasonable guess. And as for his powers, there's obviously the BIG Elephant in the room. If he's made TOO powerful, then it reduces the other Avengers by comparison. Why even have them around if Thor can do all of this insane crap on his own? It's a problem that the comics have had with their "god-like" characters as well.

 

[Zoom]

Well; as long as he's awesome in this movie, I'll be a happy fan!

 

[CoherentChaos]

NONE of the characters are as powerful as their CB counterparts (except for maybe Cap). That's because them being as uber-ridiculously powerful as they are in the comics wouldn't work as well in a movie.

True, but I think they're steadily revving it up. It's going to be necessary if they're going to be fighting Thanos, unless they gimp Thanos by insane amounts, which would pretty much be blasphemy.

Iron Man started out having trouble with jets, but then moved on to being able to fly up an energy beam to meet an alien armada head on. By the rule of cool, lasers are more powerful than any man made bullets, and he took a few point blank and only got staggered. Now he's rocking a suit of armor that can challenge Hulk and he created a robot that we're assuming would be able to laugh at Thor's strongest attacks.

Imagine where he can be by the time of Avengers 3. We could even get Bleeding Edge.

Same goes for Hulk. In TIH he relied on car gloves to make an opponent bigger than him (by only about a foot taller) wince in the slightest. In AoU, he's using a car as a mere distraction so he can do a quick punch on an 11 foot tall opponent through said car, and even make them do a flip down the street.

We're probably never going to get any dimension shattering Hulk thunder claps or planet busting Thors, but I can see them ramping up the destructive potential of the heroes as time goes on.

You are correct about MCU Cap though, but then again it's not like comics Cap has set the bar too high to begin with. They can easily make movie Steve as powerful as his comic book counterpart without having him completely stomp everything the MCU has to throw at him. But as the MCU becomes more dangerous, I can see them boosting Thor, Hulk and Iron Man as needed.

 

[warriorking]

Hopefully Thor will play a major role in Ultron's ultimate demise..
I don't want him or Hulk relegated to just drone destruction..Nor do I want him easily defeated by Ultron be it a mind trick or brute force..
I want Thor to give Ultron a run for his money...

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I've said it before, but I could see Thor getting some focus just because in many ways he'd be a wild card to Ultron. A newly created Ultron in a movie is not the same as Ultron in the comics that has faced the team multiple times. If you think about it, the power of Asgard, at this time, should be something beyond Ultron's understanding. I can easily see the story going to reasonable lengths to showing Ultron take steps to neutralize Thor in a way that side steps direct confrontation with the Thunder God until he has his Vibranium body. On the other hand... SHIELD did have custody of the Destroyer and perhaps it's written that Ultron gobbled up all the info they had and analyzed it so he in fact does have counter measures or plans to battle Thor in a more direct fashion.

 

[ciscostudent561]

Yeah I brought that up years ago. ..
Not that the destroyer armor stood a chance against Thor

 

[The_Manhunter]

Have any of you guys heard the rumors that

Spoiler

they might kill off Jane in this movie?

That would certainly give Thor significant development and in addition to his power set give him motivation to be crucial in defeating Ultron.

 

[First Avenger]

^ hmmm where did you hear it?

 

[speno94]

I don't know what there is left for Thor's character arc in this film because:

- Thor 1 is about him learning his humility which is a solid arc
- Avengers is him on orders from Odin to bring Loki back and without the Tesseract he can't go back to Asgard even though he doesn't really have a 'personal' arc.
- Thor 2 is about him being a good man than a king and bringing back order to the nine realms after Loki's doings.
- If Thor 3 is about Ragnarok, his arc will literally be about saving his family and his entire legacy from destruction.

So I don't know what his character arc could be in Avengers 2, I hope he's not just there to look good in action scenes. Maybe Jane dies to give him an arc?

 

[warriorking]

Have any of you guys heard the rumors that

Spoiler

they might kill off Jane in this movie?

That would certainly give Thor significant development and in addition to his power set give him motivation to be crucial in defeating Ultron.

Nah...
Only rumor I have heard is that Jane and Thor have broken up, something I don't believe for a minute given the ending of TDW..(Jane was willing to sacrifice her own life trying to move and shield Thor as the Alien ship falls to the ground, and his return to Earth to her at the apartment.)
She has been with Thor when he lost his powers and at the loss of his mother, their bond is very deep..An off screen breakup would be very lazy and an insult to their relationship and the first two movies...
My understanding from post movie interviews is Portman was looking forward to returning for Thor 3...
Whedon will not go down that route...
They will have a good reason for her absence.....

 

[ThePhantasm]

Really? Portman seemed really unenthusiastic about Thor 2 and was rather listless in the promotional interviews.

 

[MahvelBaby!]

I felt Thor was pretty prominent in the trailer

 

[Raiden]

I think everyone just assumes that because Thor was so forgettable in the first Avengers film.

And let's not forget the fact that Thor had been upstaged by his brother Loki in TDW in terms of focus and character development. Except for the first Thor movie, I think Marvel has not been using Hemsworth's talent effectively since then.

 

[warriorking]

Really? Portman seemed really unenthusiastic about Thor 2 and was rather listless in the promotional interviews.

Portman is smart, the payday she receives from Marvel and the Thor franchise is far beyond any movie she will make in the upcoming future..
She will not give that up..Her role will continue to expand and Marvel is going to make it worth her while to stay...