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I have a question about people who cosplay as Thor. Why is it that(at least in my own observations) I see a lot more ladies cosplaying as female Thor? Is it because it's easier due to the hair or something? And don't say it's because there's a new female Thor in the comics as I know this has been a thing even before that.


because there are like 3 male geeks on the planet who are self-confident enough to dress up as Thor.
Thor more than any other costume (except maybe wife-beater wolverine) requires the wearer to be in good shape
He's a god, that's tough to live up to

whereas females can have a much more varied body shape and pull it off, curvy thin, tall, short, doesn't really matter

a short "curvy" male Thor would look hilarious
 
For starters I think the Thor films, especially the first one, have a lot of female appeal. Which is not to suggest that men and women are totally separate demos who enjoy stereotypically masculine/feminine films just that in general it seems that I see the a lot less love for guy fans for the movie than girls.

Second, if you are going to go as Thor and you are a guy it helps to have size on your side. As a girl, people don't expect you to be huge, so you can pull of passing as Thor. Personally I think that if you love a character enough to put the time and effort into a costume than you should rock that cosplay regardless of size, gender, race, ect. But a lot of people do try and look as close to the character as they can, so if you're a small dude I can see that holding you back from going as Thor. On the other hand, female-to-male crossplaying is pretty well accepted, and the standards are different enough that you can be rather petite and still "pull off" a woman!Thor.

because there are like 3 male geeks on the planet who are self-confident enough to dress up as Thor.
Thor more than any other costume (except maybe wife-beater wolverine) requires the wearer to be in good shape
He's a god, that's tough to live up to

whereas females can have a much more varied body shape and pull it off, curvy thin, tall, short, doesn't really matter

a short "curvy" male Thor would look hilarious

Ah ok. I get it now.
 
I still don't buy the Jane dumping Thor angle, I mean they took the time to show Thor returning to her at the end of TDW plus she showed she was willing to sacrifice her life in a vain attempt to shield him from the falling ship and we are suppose to think that Oh well they just break them up off screen like none of this ever happened? ..
Portman (Jane) and the audience deserve's better treatment than that...
And trying to get them back together in Thor 3 would waste valuable time and take away from the coming threat...
Thor could quite possibly be keeping their relationship very secretive and low key for her own protection since they are dealing with the very dangerous remnants of Hydra..
So her appearing in public with other men could very well be an act...

I don't want to believe the rumors either, but the writing for Thor and Jane in film 2 was just so lazy. Reading the comments by Taylor just confirmed that they didn't try or apparently even want to develop the two as a couple, so a part of me does believe that TPTB would have no problems breaking up the two offscreen, no matter how dumb that would be. It's a shame cause they were really good in film 1. I wish Branagh would've come back.He wouldn't have thrown the two so far off the rails.
 
If the rumors about Jane dumping Thor off-screen is true, then that makes me feel more bad for the character.lol

I mean overall, if there's been any one character that's been mistreated/mishandled the most in the entire MCU, it would definitely be Thor.

Loki is considered more popular than Thor's character and his Phase 2 film is currently the lowest rated one out of the entire MCU franchise.

And after having spent two films trying to portray Natalie's Jane Foster as the "love" of Thor's life, it ends off-screen.lol

It kind of sucks that Thor 3 is like the last chance that the MCU has in getting Thor "right" before Chris leaves the role for good.

I'm sorry..but did you know how many contract deal that Chris Hemsworth have? I read in the past that he have 7 picture deal ...if that is true, then perhaps we are going to see Chris as Thor one more time outside his solo films & Avengers films in Phase 3. Wonder what movie that might be?
 
I'm sorry..but did you know how many contract deal that Chris Hemsworth have? I read in the past that he have 7 picture deal ...if that is true, then perhaps we are going to see Chris as Thor one more time outside his solo films & Avengers films in Phase 3. Wonder what movie that might be?

I heard it was only six; with Hemsworth having said at comic con that in his current contract, he only has one more solo Thor film and a third Avengers film left to complete.
 
If the rumors about Jane dumping Thor off-screen is true, then that makes me feel more bad for the character.lol

I mean overall, if there's been any one character that's been mistreated/mishandled the most in the entire MCU, it would definitely be Thor.

Loki is considered more popular than Thor's character and his Phase 2 film is currently the lowest rated one out of the entire MCU franchise.

And after having spent two films trying to portray Natalie's Jane Foster as the "love" of Thor's life, it ends off-screen.lol

It kind of sucks that Thor 3 is like the last chance that the MCU has in getting Thor "right" before Chris leaves the role for good.
Has he expressed that he doesn't want to continue? Because, until/unless he does/it comes down to it, if he really enjoys the character - there's always the possibility of him signing a new contract to continue the role. As far as I'm aware, unless Marvel doesn't want them back (and I can't see why they wouldn't want them to come back if possible) there's nothing saying they *have* to quit the role once their contract is up/that they can't sign a new contract (RDJ signed a second contract to carry him through IM3, Avengers:AOU & Avengers 3/IW-Pt1 - which also might mean he'll be signing a third to cover his involvement in CA:Civil War as well as IW-Pt2 - depending on the events of Avengers:IW-Pt1 of course).
 
I feel like Iw1 and 2 will count as one film, it just makes sense, you have Evans, Hemsworth and Renner who end on A3, no idea about ScarJo but i bet she finishes with A3 as well, if Boseman is on 5 film contract and he is in both IWs then that would leave one left in Phase 4, which isn't a lot.

So unless all the characters are going to be split between the two films, it makes sense they will all be in both to some extent.
 
I hope that they finally present Thor in a way that suits him...
I think he needs a big moment in that Avengers movie now. But i have no good feeling for that ;) I think it will be more like "Thor is leaving early for other reasons - namely Loki in Asgard"...

But they have to show the audience soon, that this guy is one of the most powerful heroes of them all.

The way they treated him in Thor 2 and Avengers was kind of week. He needs help, gets kicked around - i wrote already in a different thread, that it is ridiculous that Thor did not respond after Hulk punched him away! Really?? That was soo poor, like "Thor is just a puppet comparing to Hulk" - major failure in the movie. Thor would immediately throw his hammer after the big green dude - for sure (and would be prepared to fight him)

And they missed the opportunity, to my complete missunderstanding, to let Thor save Iron Man as he falls back to earth. He can FLY, guys!!! But instead he just swings the hammer and looks?!? Really?

So it was obvious that they wanted that the green dude shines very often ;)
But at the expense of Thor!

Thor beats alot (big) enemies with his lightning in one (short and trivial) scene - but the big moments, with killing just one of these big creatures, went to Hulk and Iron Man!

I know it is difficult to treat all heroes right and Thor is not the only guy misstreated - also Captain America sometimes - but with the God of Thunder it is most obvious.
Instead of showing that he is maybe the most gifted one, he seems to be just "someone".. hmm...

PS
And i predict - as i wrote already, that we do not see Thor around, when the final battle with Ultron will start ;)
 
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The way they treated him in Thor 2 and Avengers was kind of week. He needs help, gets kicked around - i wrote already in a different thread, that it is ridiculous that Thor did not respond after Hulk punched him away! Really??

While I agree that they can show Thor as being more powerful, I feel like his lack of response to The Hulk's punch was probably due to the fact that they were in the middle of a war to save Earth. Hulk may have an excuse as while Banner could be in control he may still have some more animalistic instincts. So Thor may not have been the bigger super hero, but he was the bigger man about that. :cwink:
 
Has he expressed that he doesn't want to continue? Because, until/unless he does/it comes down to it, if he really enjoys the character - there's always the possibility of him signing a new contract to continue the role. As far as I'm aware, unless Marvel doesn't want them back (and I can't see why they wouldn't want them to come back if possible) there's nothing saying they *have* to quit the role once their contract is up/that they can't sign a new contract (RDJ signed a second contract to carry him through IM3, Avengers:AOU & Avengers 3/IW-Pt1 - which also might mean he'll be signing a third to cover his involvement in CA:Civil War as well as IW-Pt2 - depending on the events of Avengers:IW-Pt1 of course).

According to that interview he doesn't seem to be tired playing Thor. I think if Marvel wants him to play Thor a bit longer, he would.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/34156/chris-hemsworth-on-playing-more-thor
 
because there are like 3 male geeks on the planet who are self-confident enough to dress up as Thor.
Thor more than any other costume (except maybe wife-beater wolverine) requires the wearer to be in good shape
He's a god, that's tough to live up to

whereas females can have a much more varied body shape and pull it off, curvy thin, tall, short, doesn't really matter

a short "curvy" male Thor would look hilarious

Challenge accepted! :p
 
I hope that they finally present Thor in a way that suits him...
I think he needs a big moment in that Avengers movie now. But i have no good feeling for that ;) I think it will be more like "Thor is leaving early for other reasons - namely Loki in Asgard"...

But they have to show the audience soon, that this guy is one of the most powerful heroes of them all.

The way they treated him in Thor 2 and Avengers was kind of week. He needs help, gets kicked around - i wrote already in a different thread, that it is ridiculous that Thor did not respond after Hulk punched him away! Really?? That was soo poor, like "Thor is just a puppet comparing to Hulk" - major failure in the movie. Thor would immediately throw his hammer after the big green dude - for sure (and would be prepared to fight him)

And they missed the opportunity, to my complete missunderstanding, to let Thor save Iron Man as he falls back to earth. He can FLY, guys!!! But instead he just swings the hammer and looks?!? Really?

So it was obvious that they wanted that the green dude shines very often ;)
But at the expense of Thor!

Thor beats alot (big) enemies with his lightning in one (short and trivial) scene - but the big moments, with killing just one of these big creatures, went to Hulk and Iron Man!

I know it is difficult to treat all heroes right and Thor is not the only guy misstreated - also Captain America sometimes - but with the God of Thunder it is most obvious.
Instead of showing that he is maybe the most gifted one, he seems to be just "someone".. hmm...

PS
And i predict - as i wrote already, that we do not see Thor around, when the final battle with Ultron will start ;)

Thor will definitely be there for the final battle with Ultron, Thor leaves temporarily after the first tangle in which The Scarlet witch causes major problems for all the Avengers and they get their butts kicked..
So they are in hiding off the grid.
This gives Thor time to return to Asgard for a quick check on what he was shown...
I think Thor will play a major role in Ultrons defeat, since it looks like the Hulk could be severely weakened and possibly absent from the final conflict..could be wrong...
Thor will be the go too guy and keep Ultron occupied until a weakness can be found by the others and exploited...
No other Avenger can stand toe to toe for an extended period of time with Ultron and hope to survive....
Unless of course they choose to weaken Thor yet again for the benefit of the others...
 
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And they missed the opportunity, to my complete missunderstanding, to let Thor save Iron Man as he falls back to earth. He can FLY, guys!!! But instead he just swings the hammer and looks?!? Really?

He was swinging the hammer in preparation to fly up there (That's how he flies, right? He uses the hammer's momentum?) and catch Stark. The Hulk just beat him to it resulting in glorious fan-ish pleasure. I loved it.
 
I'm sorry..but did you know how many contract deal that Chris Hemsworth have? I read in the past that he have 7 picture deal ...if that is true, then perhaps we are going to see Chris as Thor one more time outside his solo films & Avengers films in Phase 3. Wonder what movie that might be?

Could be any. Gotg2, inhumans.

I hope that they finally present Thor in a way that suits him...
I think he needs a big moment in that Avengers movie now. But i have no good feeling for that ;) I think it will be more like "Thor is leaving early for other reasons - namely Loki in Asgard"...

But they have to show the audience soon, that this guy is one of the most powerful heroes of them all.

The way they treated him in Thor 2 and Avengers was kind of week. He needs help, gets kicked around - i wrote already in a different thread, that it is ridiculous that Thor did not respond after Hulk punched him away! Really?? That was soo poor, like "Thor is just a puppet comparing to Hulk" - major failure in the movie. Thor would immediately throw his hammer after the big green dude - for sure (and would be prepared to fight him)

And they missed the opportunity, to my complete missunderstanding, to let Thor save Iron Man as he falls back to earth. He can FLY, guys!!! But instead he just swings the hammer and looks?!? Really?

So it was obvious that they wanted that the green dude shines very often ;)
But at the expense of Thor!

Thor beats alot (big) enemies with his lightning in one (short and trivial) scene - but the big moments, with killing just one of these big creatures, went to Hulk and Iron Man!

I know it is difficult to treat all heroes right and Thor is not the only guy misstreated - also Captain America sometimes - but with the God of Thunder it is most obvious.
Instead of showing that he is maybe the most gifted one, he seems to be just "someone".. hmm...

PS
And i predict - as i wrote already, that we do not see Thor around, when the final battle with Ultron will start ;)

Thor will definitely be there for the final battle with Ultron, Thor leaves temporarily after the first tangle in which The Scarlet witch causes major problems for all the Avengers and they get their butts kicked..
So they are in hiding off the grid.
This gives Thor time to return to Asgard for a quick check on what he was shown...
I think Thor will play a major role in Ultrons defeat, since it looks like the Hulk could be severely weakened and possibly absent from the final conflict..could be wrong...
Thor will be the go too guy and keep Ultron occupied until a weakness can be found by the others and exploited...
No other Avenger can stand toe to toe for an extended period of time with Ultron and hope to survive....
Unless of course they choose to weaken Thor yet again for the benefit of the others...


The latter seems far more likely. Thor is like a side character, and Loki seems to be the driving force behind the franchise and Thor's character.
 
I'm sorry..but did you know how many contract deal that Chris Hemsworth have? I read in the past that he have 7 picture deal ...if that is true, then perhaps we are going to see Chris as Thor one more time outside his solo films & Avengers films in Phase 3. Wonder what movie that might be?

I've only ever read that he had a 6 pic deal, same as Evans.
 
I'm sorry, but Thor "not responding" to the Hulk punch was in NO WAY a "major failure," or any kind of "failure" whatsoever. It was a joke scene and a callback to when Thor bashed him in the face with Mjolnir on the Hellicarrier. It was a "I got you back" thing, with no malicious intent behind it.

And Hulk saving IM makes more sense because of the "science bros" thing that had developed between Tony and Banner, and Tony being the only one NOT to see the Hulk as a dangerous monster. And they made a point to show Thor preparing to save Tony anyway.
 
I'm sorry, but Thor "not responding" to the Hulk punch was in NO WAY a "major failure," or any kind of "failure" whatsoever. It was a joke scene and a callback to when Thor bashed him in the face with Mjolnir on the Hellicarrier. It was a "I got you back" thing, with no malicious intent behind it.

And Hulk saving IM makes more sense because of the "science bros" thing that had developed between Tony and Banner, and Tony being the only one NOT to see the Hulk as a dangerous monster. And they made a point to show Thor preparing to save Tony anyway.

Yeah Thor saved Cap anyway, warrior bros :cap::thor:

[YT]/watch?v=9_h_ii8U8ZY[/YT]
 
I'm sorry, but Thor "not responding" to the Hulk punch was in NO WAY a "major failure," or any kind of "failure" whatsoever. It was a joke scene and a callback to when Thor bashed him in the face with Mjolnir on the Hellicarrier. It was a "I got you back" thing, with no malicious intent behind it.

And Hulk saving IM makes more sense because of the "science bros" thing that had developed between Tony and Banner, and Tony being the only one NOT to see the Hulk as a dangerous monster. And they made a point to show Thor preparing to save Tony anyway.

Exactly this. Hulk catching IM was the payoff of Stark being the only one to have faith in/encourage Banner to own his Hulk-ness throughout the film.
 
I heard it was only six; with Hemsworth having said at comic con that in his current contract, he only has one more solo Thor film and a third Avengers film left to complete.

Thanks for your reply (and also to Moridin & Jaqua99)...ah I see so it's just 6 deal, just like Evans. I wish there's more contract for Hemsworth to appear in another films in phase 3 outside Thor solo & Avengers films.
 
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Well, it just seems like both Chris's (Evans and Hemsworth) have enough going on in their lives that it doesn't seem like that they're interested in portraying their respective characters past their contracted deals. Evans wants to take a breather from acting for awhile, and Hemsworth probably wants to tackle on different roles, especially now that he's being offered prominent roles in other films.
 
I hope that they finally present Thor in a way that suits him...
I think he needs a big moment in that Avengers movie now. But i have no good feeling for that ;) I think it will be more like "Thor is leaving early for other reasons - namely Loki in Asgard"...

But they have to show the audience soon, that this guy is one of the most powerful heroes of them all.

The way they treated him in Thor 2 and Avengers was kind of week. He needs help, gets kicked around - i wrote already in a different thread, that it is ridiculous that Thor did not respond after Hulk punched him away! Really?? That was soo poor, like "Thor is just a puppet comparing to Hulk" - major failure in the movie. Thor would immediately throw his hammer after the big green dude - for sure (and would be prepared to fight him)

And they missed the opportunity, to my complete missunderstanding, to let Thor save Iron Man as he falls back to earth. He can FLY, guys!!! But instead he just swings the hammer and looks?!? Really?

So it was obvious that they wanted that the green dude shines very often ;)
But at the expense of Thor!

Thor beats alot (big) enemies with his lightning in one (short and trivial) scene - but the big moments, with killing just one of these big creatures, went to Hulk and Iron Man!

I know it is difficult to treat all heroes right and Thor is not the only guy misstreated - also Captain America sometimes - but with the God of Thunder it is most obvious.
Instead of showing that he is maybe the most gifted one, he seems to be just "someone".. hmm...

PS
And i predict - as i wrote already, that we do not see Thor around, when the final battle with Ultron will start ;)

As others have pointed out, Thor was totally ready to save Tony, but Hulk got there first. In terms of the film, it's far more meaningful for Hulk (a "rage monster") to go out of his way to save a teammate, especially the teammate who showed such faith in being able to utilize the Hulk for good.

On the other hand, yeah, that punch was nothing more than a joke, not any sort of slight to Thor. In that moment they have worked together to take down the enemy, and Thor is standing there proud and perhaps feeling connected to this beast he fought AGAINST earlier, and Hulk shows some personality by knocking him out of frame. I think it was a small reference to their friendly, competitive relationship, a way for Hulk to say he can still take old Goldilocks even when they are working together to save the world. :cwink:

The next time we seem Thor he seems utterly unaffected, and it says a lot about him that he can so easily shake of a punch from the Hulk. He's also the only character during the "we're cannot hold them back, the enemy is winning" scene that seems relatively unaffected by the battle. To be honest, that always stands out and bothers me how they show literally every other hero (including Hulk) being overpowered, but Thor looks perfectly fine. I'm always like, come on! Beat him up a little! Give him some kind of challenge!
 
I hope that they finally present Thor in a way that suits him...
I think he needs a big moment in that Avengers movie now. But i have no good feeling for that ;) I think it will be more like "Thor is leaving early for other reasons - namely Loki in Asgard"...

But they have to show the audience soon, that this guy is one of the most powerful heroes of them all.

The way they treated him in Thor 2 and Avengers was kind of week. He needs help, gets kicked around - i wrote already in a different thread, that it is ridiculous that Thor did not respond after Hulk punched him away! Really?? That was soo poor, like "Thor is just a puppet comparing to Hulk" - major failure in the movie. Thor would immediately throw his hammer after the big green dude - for sure (and would be prepared to fight him)

And they missed the opportunity, to my complete missunderstanding, to let Thor save Iron Man as he falls back to earth. He can FLY, guys!!! But instead he just swings the hammer and looks?!? Really?

So it was obvious that they wanted that the green dude shines very often ;)
But at the expense of Thor!

Thor beats alot (big) enemies with his lightning in one (short and trivial) scene - but the big moments, with killing just one of these big creatures, went to Hulk and Iron Man!

I know it is difficult to treat all heroes right and Thor is not the only guy misstreated - also Captain America sometimes - but with the God of Thunder it is most obvious.
Instead of showing that he is maybe the most gifted one, he seems to be just "someone".. hmm...

PS
And i predict - as i wrote already, that we do not see Thor around, when the final battle with Ultron will start ;)

Reading this gave me a migrane -_-
 
Well, it just seems like both Chris's (Evans and Hemsworth) have enough going on in their lives that it doesn't seem like that they're interested in portraying their respective characters past their contracted deals. Evans wants to take a breather from acting for awhile, and Hemsworth probably wants to tackle on different roles, especially now that he's being offered prominent roles in other films.

Hemsworth isn't having trouble finding time to do other things, he's getting loads of top quality work. In the next 7 months alone he'll have Blackhat with Michael Mann, In the Heart of the Sea with Ron Howard (who he did the excellent Rush with last year), then AoU. He's also met with Shane Black for Doc Savage, and Spielberg cast him in Robopocalypse before it was put on hold.

Dude isn't hurting for good work. I think it's the Huntsman films that he'd want out of, not the MCU.


Also Evans has clarified his comments about quitting, he wants to take a break from acting [to direct], not give it up altogether.
 
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