US woman arrested over dry lawn

[ampersand]

Policeofficer>than 70 year old woman.....

THAT is the point I get....and besides.....WHAT WOULD IT HAVE HURT, to let her go back into her house, make his notes, and send a (female officer, older officer, call his supervisor) ANYTHING, why was it so damn imperative that he arrest her AT THAT VERY MOMENT....she was a fleeing felon? OOOOH WAIT, yeah they have alot of fires in Utah right now because of the lack of rain, I guess her lawn was considered a weapon?......since there is no talk of a weapon, apparently she didn't have one...

Facts...
#1. All of this over a lawn...
#2. 70 year old lady...

My opinion, not a big ****ing deal considering what else we have running around our cities these days......

If a police officer puts you under arrest, you CANNOT walk/run away for any reason. Even if you think that you are being unfairly arrested, it is illegal to resist arrest. If the cop is really arresting you unfairly, you can file a complaint afterwards. But, let me repeat, it is ALWAYS illegal to resist arrest.

 

[Jerry!]

If a police officer puts you under arrest, you CANNOT walk/run away for any reason. Even if you think that you are being unfairly arrested, it is illegal to resist arrest. If the cop is really arresting you unfairly, you can file a complaint afterwards. But, let me repeat, it is ALWAYS illegal to resist arrest.

I think everyone understands that, but it seems like most people's problems with the cop's arresting the woman was that it just wasn't needed. Who does that help, what kind of solution comes of that? Does it really come to the point of arresting an elderly woman who apparently can't physically keep up her yard? Sometimes common sense has to win out in these kind of decisions and cops have the power to make that kind of decision, so lets not BS ourselves on that.

 

[ampersand]

I think everyone understands that, but it seems like most people's problems with the cop's arresting the woman was that it just wasn't needed. Who does that help, who kind of solution comes of that? Does it really come to the point of arresting an elderly woman who apparently can't physically keep up her yard? Sometimes common sense has to win out in these kind of decisions and cops have the power to make that kind of decision, so lets not BS ourselves on that.

It make sense to be confused at that, but we don't know enough to be angry at the cop for that. Do you know the laws of the area? It may be that she was at the point where it was necessary to arrest her or it could be police protocol. We just don't know. (I said all of this in my initial post, which alba fan quoted and completely ignored) The cop may have been wrong in arresting her, but if he was, she was still wrong for resisting his arrest.

 

[Jerry!]

I understand that, I think people are upset it even got to the point of arresting her, thats all. I know there are protocols and certain procedures that cops are supposed to follow, but they don't in every case. People get pulled over for things like speeding or a broken tail light, which both are inherently a lot more dangerous than this situation in question, but cops sometimes let you off with warnings where if they went "by the book" or protocol, they should always give out tickets. But some situations don't always call for that kind of action, and I think thats why people are upset about an elderly woman getting arrested for this.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

She was asking for it.

LMFAO! t:

 

[jks]

I understand that, I think people are upset it even got to the point of arresting her, thats all. I know there are protocols and certain procedures that cops are supposed to follow, but they don't in every case. People get pulled over for things like speeding or a broken tail light, which both are inherently a lot more dangerous than this situation in question, but cops sometimes let you off with warnings where if they went "by the book" or protocol, they should always give out tickets. But some situations don't always call for that kind of action, and I think thats why people are upset about an elderly woman getting arrested for this.

That's touching on my point I've made the whole time, no one knows what lead up to that point, no one knows anything more than what's stated in the article, so why do people get upset and condemn the officer based on something they dont even have the details on?

 

[Kelly]

If a police officer puts you under arrest, you CANNOT walk/run away for any reason. Even if you think that you are being unfairly arrested, it is illegal to resist arrest. If the cop is really arresting you unfairly, you can file a complaint afterwards. But, let me repeat, it is ALWAYS illegal to resist arrest.

That would be considered a "duh".....I'm not understanding an arrest in the first place......and I think I made that point fairly clear....

 

[Mike_D202]

I work at a police station and out of the entire police force, there are maybe 2 that are *******s.

I'm an auxiliary police officer and I dont hit old women in the face with handcuffs when she has a dry lawn

But then again, maybe she wasnt cooperating with the officer (not giving your information is a no-no) and resisted a bit. Maybe he cuffed her with her arms in front of her and resisted, then fell frontwards and tried to dodge the fall with her hands and ended up with a cuff samwich.

 

[Jerry!]

That's touching on my point I've made the whole time, no one knows what lead up to that point, no one knows anything more than what's stated in the article, so why do people get upset and condemn the officer based on something they dont even have the details on?

That wasn't the problem everyone was having with you. You were sticking up for the cop, then telling us what you thought probably happened and then telling everyone we shouldn't judge without knowing the facts while not keeping in mind you were doing the same thing.

 

[jks]

That wasn't the problem everyone was having with you. You were sticking up for the cop,

This is the problem with you. Nowhere did I defend or condemn his actions either way. How many times must this be stated before it sinks in?

then telling us what you thought probably happened and then telling everyone we shouldn't judge without knowing the facts while not keeping in mind you were doing the same thing.

Except I wasn't doing the same thing. I took what we do know and formed an educated guess as to what POSSIBLY happened, as opposed to everyone else who read that article and are condemning the officer based on something they dont know all the details about. How many times must that be stated before it sinks in?

 

[ampersand]

That would be considered a "duh".....I'm not understanding an arrest in the first place......and I think I made that point fairly clear....

Yeah, I misunderstood what you were arguing with me about. But really, what is the point of getting riled up over the arrest when you don't know the circumstances at all? When you look at what the article said, it actually makes it sound like the officer had a decent reason to arrest the woman, because she was being difficult and wouldn't even say her own name. It could also be that he had no reason at all to arrest her, we just don't know. Either way, she should have gone quietly if the officer did want to arrest her, even if she didn't think he had a good reason.

 

[Kritish]

Texas suffers from a drought just about every year, yet we still insist that watering the lawn should be the last thing to go. We'd benifit from doing like Tulsa and making everyone have rock yards.

 

[ampersand]

I understand that, I think people are upset it even got to the point of arresting her, thats all. I know there are protocols and certain procedures that cops are supposed to follow, but they don't in every case. People get pulled over for things like speeding or a broken tail light, which both are inherently a lot more dangerous than this situation in question, but cops sometimes let you off with warnings where if they went "by the book" or protocol, they should always give out tickets. But some situations don't always call for that kind of action, and I think thats why people are upset about an elderly woman getting arrested for this.

Well, if it's the kind of situation where it's a judgement call and the cop could have not arrested her even though it was protocol, then there is absolutely no reason to be upset with the cop. He has a job to do and there is no part of that job description that says not to arrest someone for doing something arrest worthy just because they are old. What she did may not have been arrest worthy in a common sense way, but it may have been arrest worthy under the law. Or it could have been neither.

 

[Kritish]

Lawns suck, that's why I love that I live in an apartment.

 

[Jerry!]

Well, if it's the kind of situation where it's a judgement call and the cop could have not arrested her even though it was protocol, then there is absolutely no reason to be upset with the cop. He has a job to do and there is no part of that job description that says not to arrest someone for doing something arrest worthy just because they are old. What she did may not have been arrest worthy in a common sense way, but it may have been arrest worthy under the law. Or it could have been neither.

When her age has a contributing factor over what the complaint is about, then yes it makes a difference.

 

[Kelly]

I work at a police station and out of the entire police force, there are maybe 2 that are *******s.

I'm an auxiliary police officer and I dont hit old women in the face with handcuffs when she has a dry lawn

But then again, maybe she wasnt cooperating with the officer (not giving your information is a no-no) and resisted a bit. Maybe he cuffed her with her arms in front of her and resisted, then fell frontwards and tried to dodge the fall with her hands and ended up with a cuff samwich.

I'm not talking about police in general.....I know many cops, went to college in classes full of Police, DPS, FBI, Sheriff, etc.......and I have many friends that are a part of all of those organizations, I respect what they do....I am talking about THIS INDIVIDUAL CASE, it would be ignorant to take this case and make a general opinion about all law enforcement officers.....

 

[PemLam]

It's funner to watch them scream and hold their eyes while trying to breath as they're running into sh1t, why you think?

jag

Shoot her with a face full of mace...then when she runs, knock her silly with your baton for fleeing! t:

 

[lazur]

I'd like to see more stories on the GOOD cops. You never hear about them. It's always the few and far between bad cops that get people, like in this very thread, to start in with the "I hate cops" bs.

My best friend is a cop in New England. When I go home on vacation, I often accompany him in his cruiser. I'd recommend anyone who 'hates cops' do the same thing so they can get a bird's eye view of just what kind of danger these guys and gals are in ALL the time.

And don't let a few bad cops brainwash you into believing ALL or MOST cops are bad. If you believe that from these very one-sided news stories, you don't deserve to have a brain.

 

[terry78]

I'd like to see more stories on the GOOD cops. You never hear about them. It's always the few and far between bad cops that get people, like in this very thread, to start in with the "I hate cops" bs.

My best friend is a cop in New England. When I go home on vacation, I often accompany him in his cruiser. I'd recommend anyone who 'hates cops' do the same thing so they can get a bird's eye view of just what kind of danger these guys and gals are in ALL the time.

And don't let a few bad cops brainwash you into believing ALL or MOST cops are bad. If you believe that from these very one-sided news stories, you don't deserve to have a brain.

Bad apples are always more entertaining than guys that do what they're supposed to.

 

[Sun_Down]

Hey, all you said was:



I don't know you so all I can infer from that is that you think cops in general get off on using force and how they justify doing so in their reports since you make no mention of most cops really being good people who are just trying to make a difference. *shrug*

jag

Sorry, I didn't realize my account of personal experience that in no way condemned an entire profession would make you feel it so necessary to go ahead and throw yourself up on the cross. But hey, I can be condescending and *shrug* too.