Drama USA_White Collar Series Thread

[Nightwing 52]

4th episode in and the series is still on a roll. Great episode on Friday, next week should also be good.

 

[Matt]

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With the latest reveal that the man with the ring is FBI, it looks like my theory may have been right.

Also, shot in the dark...bit of a crazy theory, but I'm thinking that James Rebhorn's character (Peter's boss) may be the man with the ring.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

I don't know. If Kate is to be believed, she's trying to protect him by not telling him who the guy with the ring is.

Spoiler

I'm not sure how not telling him it's Rebborn protects him. That would give him leverage.

I think it's someone we haven't met yet but is tied to all the main characters.

 

[Showtime]

ThinkMcflyThink.com: Exclusive Interview With Natalie Morales

Some of you might remember Natalie Morales from her portrayal as the unflappable Wendy Watson in ABC Family's television series "The Middleman". Now you can catch her on USA Network's new hit series "White Collar" playing the sassy Agent Lauren Cruz. She just recently finished shooting for her role in "Wall Street 2: Money Never Sleeps". Natalie was nice enough to take some time out of her busy schedule to answer a few questionsfor us.

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There is an obvious spark between the characters you and Matthew Bomer play on "White Collar", Lauren Cruz and Neal Caffrey. What do you think is holding them back from getting together at this stage?

I think it might be way too soon. Neal is still a bit hung up on Kate. Also, there is a lot of trust issues going around for everybody. I don't think any of us REALLY trust Neal yet, and the same goes for Neal with us. Although, now that I mention it - that may be part of the attraction.


I saw you hauling ass while chasing down Ghovat in the 2nd episode of White Collar, "Threads". What do you do to stay in shape so you can make chasing down criminals look easy?

Interesting question. I should have some ridiculous workout regimen where I do yoga at 5am and only eat leeks. Really, I'm just a lazy 24 year old with a fast metabolism. Ask me again when I'm 30.


Matthew Bomer was close to playing Superman at one point, would you be interested in playing a superhero?

Well, playing Wendy Watson was a hell of a lot of fun. I'd love to do it again.


I want to hear more about "Quitters", which you not only starred in, but also took on the role of executive producer.

Quitters was a pilot that my brilliant friend, Dane Hanson, wrote and directed. We got a group of friends together and shot it in 2 days, just for fun. I look forward to working with him a lot more, the man's a machine.

“Wall Street 2: Money Never Sleeps” has just wrapped filming. Talk about that experience.

It was so much fun! Everyone was really cool and I got the chance to play a completely different character than I'm used to. I was completely honored to be working with those guys, and they made it very easy.

I heard that "Boldly Going Nowhere" has some new life, tell us about that project.

Boldly is a pilot I shot over a year ago that was written by the Always Sunny in Philadelphia guys (who completely and totally rule) and to be honest I have absolutely no idea what's happening with it.

You're certainly doing well for yourself in front of the camera any thoughts of getting behind the camera as a director?

Absolutely, and thanks, I would definitely love to direct someday. I need a hell of a lot more experience though. I would hate to be one of those people that just thinks she can direct because she's been around directors. There's so much more to it - I've learned a lot from some magnificent people I've worked with.... but I need to take a ton of classes first.


You're spending a quiet night at home watching movies, what's in Natalie's Netflix queue?

Let me look - okay, here's a few: Steamboat Bill Jr., Paper Heart, Big Love Season 1 & Joe Versus the Volcano.

Update your fans on any upcoming projects. What does Natalie's future hold?

I wish I knew. That's the tough/awesome thing about this business. I could be filming a movie in Yemin tomorrow night and not know it until tomorrow morning. Right now, however, I'm focusing on finishing this season of White Collar and then a script I've just written and getting that made. Keep your fingers crossed.

Can fans follow your Tweets via Twitter or poke you courtesy of Facebook?

Tweet! find me @nataliemorales

Don't miss the White Collar Fall Finale this Friday December 4th at 10PM Eastern. Then get reacquainted with Natalie Morales when White Collar returns on Tuesday, January 19th for all new episodes on it's new night.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Hmm, didn't know she was also a writer. I loved her on Middleman, so I'm glad she's now on another great show. I hope her character sticks around.

 

[Showtime]

I'm interested in what script she is working on. I wish asked her what the project was about.

 

[Showtime]

Fall Finale tonight, coming back in January.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

At least that's not too long a wait.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

WTH! I know con movies are all about misdirection but I can't see where this is supposed to be taking these chracters. I'm hoping we get more flashback episodes to explain this.

 

[wiegeabo]

I'm thinking Peter is trying to get Neal to cough up the location of everything he's stolen.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

I think Peter got Kate involved in some kind of operation and needs something that Neal stole.

I think the Kate break-up in the pilot was what Peter wanted her to do but she sent her own signal to Neal about the bottle. I don't think either of them expected Neal to breakout to find her. I think Peter's original plan was for Neal to leave prison thinking Kate left him and go to where the "booty" was hidden since Kate didn't know.

So it's basically two FBI factions running operations, but the OPR thinks Peter is dirty.

 

[enterthemadness]

What a twist.

Neal and Peter's relationship...is gonna be rocky in January. How can Neal ever trust Peter again?

 

[Matt]

What the hell!?! Peter can't be dirty without changing the entire direction of the show. At the same time, its pretty damning. I hope they have a really good explanation for this. My guess is that Peter's actions are somehow protecting Kate. Perhaps she was an informant who got caught up in something bigger and Peter is protecting her? Oh man, I can't wait til January.

 

[wiegeabo]

What the hell!?! Peter can't be dirty without changing the entire direction of the show. At the same time, its pretty damning. I hope they have a really good explanation for this. My guess is that Peter's actions are somehow protecting Kate. Perhaps she was an informant who got caught up in something bigger and Peter is protecting her? Oh man, I can't wait til January.

I figure Peter's plan was to 'kidnap' Kate to trick Neal into revealing the location of all the stuff he's stolen. Then Peter would be able to put Neal away for it all and get huge kudos from the FBI (assuming he's not dirty and plans to keep it for himself, which I'm pretty sure his wife would kill him over).

The only hitch was probably Neal getting himself caught in the pilot. But then Neal came up with the tracking device idea and Peter ran with it to keep his plan in play.

 

[Matt]

I figure Peter's plan was to 'kidnap' Kate to trick Neal into revealing the location of all the stuff he's stolen. Then Peter would be able to put Neal away for it all and get huge kudos from the FBI (assuming he's not dirty and plans to keep it for himself, which I'm pretty sure his wife would kill him over).

The only hitch was probably Neal getting himself caught in the pilot. But then Neal came up with the tracking device idea and Peter ran with it to keep his plan in play.

I just don't see it. Peter had already caught Neal. Got him locked up. Through the break out, he got him another four years. Why go through such an elaborate scam to catch a criminal you've already caught? Plus it changes the whole dynamic of the show. Some how, some way, in doing this, Peter is protecting both Kate and Neal. That's my guess.

 

[Matt]

On a side note, in a PM exchange, Hype administrator Hunter Rider called this. I believe he should get some credit for seeing this twist which entirely knocked me off my feet coming.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

HR may not be right. I think more than one person has that ring. There's no way Peter would have been able to turn off that monitoring anklet.

 

[wiegeabo]

I just don't see it. Peter had already caught Neal. Got him locked up. Through the break out, he got him another four years. Why go through such an elaborate scam to catch a criminal you've already caught? Plus it changes the whole dynamic of the show. Some how, some way, in doing this, Peter is protecting both Kate and Neal. That's my guess.

Because Neal still has millions, if not tens of millions, in stolen goods hidden away. Not only would it be enough to send Neal to prison, probably for life, but those goods get returned to their rightful owners. Plus Peter would probably get himself a nice promotion from such a coup.

 

[Matt]

Because Neal still has millions, if not tens of millions, in stolen goods hidden away. Not only would it be enough to send Neal to prison, probably for life, but those goods get returned to their rightful owners. Plus Peter would probably get himself a nice promotion from such a coup.

But doing so changes the show's whole dynamic. Plus if nothing else, Peter is a by the book cop. Kidnapping someone isn't exactly by the book.

My theroy:

Kate is playing Neal. There is no man with the ring. She just wants Neal's money and treasures. When Neal told Peter he saw Kate, Peter realized she was in NY, he put the pieces together, hunted her down and is in the hotel to confront her. The ring is hers and the man is simply one of her henchmen and she used it as a decoy. Peter is confronting her to protect Neal from her.

 

[wiegeabo]

Peter didn't actually kidnap Kate. He made it appear that way. He either caught Kate committing some sort of crime, or found enough evidence to link her to Neal's crimes. Then he cut a deal with her. Get Neal to cough up the location of all his stolen goods, which he'd only do for Kate.

What probably was supposed to happen was Kate leaving drives Neal to find her. But he ends up getting caught again, which Peter didn't expect. The ankle tracker gave a way for Peter to get the plan moving again, and he worked out the whole 'kidnapping' scheme with Kate to force Neal's hand.


Now, all that assumes Peter planned everything. It could be that Peter just happens to wear the same ring as the kidnapper (maybe an academy class ring?) and figured out where Kate was. But that doesn't explain why Kate seems free to come and go from her apartment if she's supposed to be being held for ransom. Or why she didn't look really surprised when she saw Peter there.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

My theroy:

Kate is playing Neal. There is no man with the ring. She just wants Neal's money and treasures. When Neal told Peter he saw Kate, Peter realized she was in NY, he put the pieces together, hunted her down and is in the hotel to confront her. The ring is hers and the man is simply one of her henchmen and she used it as a decoy. Peter is confronting her to protect Neal from her.

But wouldn't that mean Kate set up the photo at the ATM in San Diego? That seems pretty far out there considering you'd have to guess someone would look for you there. Plus, she was using an alias at the time.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Holy crap what an ending! Not to mention baffling. All your guys's theories sounds good.

 

[Matt]

Peter didn't actually kidnap Kate. He made it appear that way. He either caught Kate committing some sort of crime, or found enough evidence to link her to Neal's crimes. Then he cut a deal with her. Get Neal to cough up the location of all his stolen goods, which he'd only do for Kate.

What probably was supposed to happen was Kate leaving drives Neal to find her. But he ends up getting caught again, which Peter didn't expect. The ankle tracker gave a way for Peter to get the plan moving again, and he worked out the whole 'kidnapping' scheme with Kate to force Neal's hand.


Now, all that assumes Peter planned everything. It could be that Peter just happens to wear the same ring as the kidnapper (maybe an academy class ring?) and figured out where Kate was. But that doesn't explain why Kate seems free to come and go from her apartment if she's supposed to be being held for ransom. Or why she didn't look really surprised when she saw Peter there.

I just fail to see how the show can continue if Peter is behind this.

But wouldn't that mean Kate set up the photo at the ATM in San Diego? That seems pretty far out there considering you'd have to guess someone would look for you there. Plus, she was using an alias at the time.

Surely Kate knew that Neal would be looking for her and surely she knew that Mozzie would be how he does it. Sure set up a bread crumb trail that she knew Mozz would find.

 

[Hunter Rider]

My theroy:

Kate is playing Neal. There is no man with the ring. She just wants Neal's money and treasures. When Neal told Peter he saw Kate, Peter realized she was in NY, he put the pieces together, hunted her down and is in the hotel to confront her. The ring is hers and the man is simply one of her henchmen and she used it as a decoy. Peter is confronting her to protect Neal from her.

The fact OPR were already tracking Peter suggests they have been onto him for a while and that would stretch back further than the ring.

 

[Matt]

But we don't know WHY OPR was investigating Peter. Perhaps it is simply because of Neal. Peter's done some pretty shady things with Neal (in the pilot for example, Neal broke into that warehouse to get Peter to search it. That's pretty shady). Maybe the two aren't related? I just don't see how they can change the show's entire concept so dramatically, seven episodes in.