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I wasn't really reading Avengers in the early-to-mid-90's, so bear with me.
How, when & why did he turn white, & how'd they turn him back?
 
Bad writing thats how.
 
In the '70s, the Vision went kind of crazy and decided to "help" humanity by taking over all the computers in the world. The Avengers stopped him and then the government came in, wiped his memory, and disassembled his body. Eventually, he was rebuilt in the white form and his mind was recreated using the same process his original mind was created with, only they used the brain engrams of Alex Lipton instead of Wonder Man's. This had the unfortunate side effect of erasing the Vision's capacity for emotion, which led to his split with Wanda. The villain Proctor later switched the 616 Vision's mind with an alternate universe Vision's in order for the latter Vision to infiltrate the Avengers' ranks, which is how he returned to his original coloring. Fueled by frustration over his split with Wanda due to his inability to feel, the Vision's original personality eventually broke through the new programming. The Vision remained somber and more reserved than before, though, which is how his personality got to where it was by the time Avengers Disassembled came around.
 
He also had more of a tempe afterwards, if I recall. There was a Vision mini were he was dealing with one of Fineas Horton's other creations, a robot that was in fact the Gremlin of legend. There was a scene were Vision was at some college party looking for a recorded message from Horton. When a pizza delivery guy interupted it, he kind of freaked out and scared away all the party goers.
 
Yep. While in his white form he was more cold, calculating and efficient.

As for the Vision pre-Disassembled, sure, he was reserved, but in a different manner also rather straightforward. I still love that scene where he decides to ask out Ms. Marvel. And let's not forget his anger over the Simon/Wanda relationship.
 
My favorite was when Simon and Wanda came in to talk about his feelings while he was doing that weird floating meditation thing he does, and he just decked Simon and flew off. That was a great issue.
 
That was golden. I really liked the way Busiek handled the Vision. Heck, I liked the way Busiek handled everybody, but I really started to like the Vision under his pen.
 
I suggest you purchase West Coast Avengers vol. 2, issues 42-45, and what the heck, issue 46 as well (first appearance of the Great Lakes Avengers!). http://www.comics.org/covers.lasso?SeriesID=3061
That being said I'll give you the jist of it:
*Ahem* If you will recall in Avengers 233 http://www.comics.org/coverview.lasso?id=37588&zoom=4 the Vision went comatose while trying to fight Annihilus's barrier that was causing havok in Manhattan. Well, in order to fix him the Avengers put him up to a life support system to see what could be done. In Avengers 238 http://www.comics.org/coverview.lasso?id=38047&zoom=4 Starfox found a way to communicate with the Vision by hooking him up with a computer called Issac. I'm not sure what Issac was all about exactly since I'm currently missing some Avengers issues but Issac convinced Vizh to try to find a suitable solution to create everlasting peace on the world through the internet (bare with me).
Anyway, with his new found power as Avengers chairman Vizh started to go crazy and seek a perfect utopia free of hate and violence and full of peace and love. Thus, he left his physical body and become a spectral traveller in cyberspace creating a disturbance in computers worldwide (see Avengers 252-254). But his fellow Avengers were able to talk him out of it without the use of violence ( Avengers 254). Thus, it seemed the whole matter was settled. But unbeknownst to the Avengers many high ranking government officials around the world, particularly in the U.S., traced the disturbance to the Avengers and ultimately the villain and decided to put a stop to it. But the Vizh and Wanda quit the Avengers shortly thereafter. As a result, the government officials put their plans against him on hold in case he rejoined the Avengers.
When he and Wanda joined the West Coast Avengers in issues 33/34 then scientists and gov't officials decided to take action. This they did in Vision Quest (Avengers 42-45), using Mockingbird as an unwitting pawn in their ruthless game (further alienating her from her estranged Hawkeye and from the Scarlet Witch as well), and dismantling him completely. See West Coast Avengers 44 if you wish to see the Visions guts.
Anyway, the Whackos found him. Wanda destroyed the lab in fury. Hank tried to fix him up but unfortunately Wonder Man didn't want to put his brain patterns back in Vizh because he loved Wanda. As a reult, the Vision had less emotion than when he started out with and didn't feel any emotional attachment to anything, including Wanda. He was turned white because that is the color because as Hank Pym said when he was working on him in issue 45, page 9, panel 2 is "My primary concern now is what to do with his bio-synthetic skin. When it was removed, its circulatory system was badly traumatized, as you can see...." To which Wonder Man replied, "Yeah....I wonder what Wanda's going to think about he husbands new hue...?"
On page 27 panel 1 of the same issue (45), USAgent, newest member, government assigned member, and Hawkeye's new rival, is having an argument with Vision. Actually, he's arguing, Vision is merely replying with no emotion. Agent wants Vizh to put on clothes. But Vizh says he doesn't need clothes neither for protection, vanity, or modesty, because he has no emotion and doesn't feel these things. Wasp comes up to Vizh and gives him his tattered old uniform to call everything down. He took the uniform and bleached it down to match his skin color.
"But, why the bleaching of the color, Vision? Why...?" asks Wanda.
"I am called 'the Vision.' is it not logical that I look the part? Spectral... Unearthly..." replied Vision.
Thus, you have the new no-nonsense Vision.
Dang, that was a lot. I hope you'll excuse me but I am EXTREMELY BORED!
 
Harlekin said:
That was golden. I really liked the way Busiek handled the Vision. Heck, I liked the way Busiek handled everybody, but I really started to like the Vision under his pen.


Vision is still one of my all time favorites. Even "has no memory of his past self teenage Vision" in Young Avengers. Although, when he took off after having that arguement with Simon, I would have liked to see him traveling about by himself a bit. Maybe that happened in issues I missd, but I'm not sure it did.
 
I'm glad the new Vision has a similar color/design scheme to the Gatherer Vision's. That was my favorite look for the Vision. I never could stand the big, stripey yellow belt.

Also, that Vision mini-series by Johns was weird. It treated the Vision as entirely a creation of Phineas Horton, without even a mention of Ultron or Wonder Man or any of the other figures he'd long since come to regard as family. Outside of that, though, it was a nice mini.
 
That's kinda lame.
The way it all came about, I mean.
 
Wasn't there a time when he snapped off on Wonder Man b/c he found out that every interest or trait the Vision thought was his own actually came from Simon?
 
That was the incident from Busiek's run that people are referring to. Vision's pissed off about Wanda's relationship with Simon, so when they come to talk to him, he decks Wonder Man and flies off to brood. Eventually, he confronts Wonder Man and reveals that his anger is fueled by his envy of Wonder Man's free will, while the Vision's choices all seem to be slaves to Wonder Man's personality. Wonder Man then reveals that he's always been jealous of the Vision because he sees the Vision as a nobler, more competent mirror of himself--essentially, what Simon could've been if he hadn't screwed up so much in his life.
Chris Wallace said:
That's kinda lame.
The way it all came about, I mean.
Parts of it were. I thought the resolution to that plot, where he returns to almost-normal, was great, though. Of course, the Proctor storyline in general is one of my all-time favorite Avengers stories.
 
Chris Wallace said:
Wasn't there a time when he snapped off on Wonder Man b/c he found out that every interest or trait the Vision thought was his own actually came from Simon?


Me and Harl were just talking 'bout that,
 
The Question said:
Vision is still one of my all time favorites. Even "has no memory of his past self teenage Vision" in Young Avengers. Although, when he took off after having that arguement with Simon, I would have liked to see him traveling about by himself a bit. Maybe that happened in issues I missd, but I'm not sure it did.
Yeah, Vision is cool. 'White' Vision was kinda lame though.
 
But he was in the Avengers arcade game, which makes up for his lameness and evens him out to a decent character. :p
 
The Question said:
Me and Harl were just talking 'bout that,
Yeah-it must be heart-wrenching to not have an identity or a personality of your own.
Makes you wonder how Night Thrasher handled it.;)
 
I loved that issue with vision vs wonderman. And also in issue 31 we see what he did while he was away.

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http://mrlcomics.com/avengers_vol3_covers/avengers_vol3_cover_023.jpg

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i found this somewhere. I love the way George Perez draws Vision. Infact every one.
 
Okay-your cool factor has been restored. I get that. I was trying to figure out why it was removed in the first place.
 

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