Voice in the Wilderness: I LOVED the Last FF book.

I'm loving this run as well.

Cannonball should stay with the X-Men. Carey's been writing him like a total badass.

People with powers already shouldn't join the Nova Corps.
 
not even reading through this thread, but:

the Black Panther putting SS into a supposedly unbreakable hold is bull**** on the highest level. The Surfer isn't human in the first place, so there's no reason his anatomy would be weak to the same hold as a human. He has the power cosmic, he doesn't need a free arm to blast a regular human into a pile of ash. Add that to the fact with his strength level he can go toe-to toe with the Hulk, and no hold is unbreakable when it's being enforced by a guy who can press, what? 2,000 pounds? Less? Oh yes, and the SS can move at the speed of light, so there's no reason T'Challa should have been able to get him into that hold in the first place.

Bad, stupid writing, to make the Black Panther look effective, in a situation where he would really get his ass handed to him.
 
I've seen worse. Like Thor getting shot in the head and being knocked out for ten minutes. Or Batman beating the Hulk. Lobo losing to Wolvie. This is nothing. Besides, The Surfer could have broken the hold, but he chose to listen rather than fry his ass.
 
not even reading through this thread, but:

the Black Panther putting SS into a supposedly unbreakable hold is bull**** on the highest level. The Surfer isn't human in the first place, so there's no reason his anatomy would be weak to the same hold as a human. He has the power cosmic, he doesn't need a free arm to blast a regular human into a pile of ash. Add that to the fact with his strength level he can go toe-to toe with the Hulk, and no hold is unbreakable when it's being enforced by a guy who can press, what? 2,000 pounds? Less? Oh yes, and the SS can move at the speed of light, so there's no reason T'Challa should have been able to get him into that hold in the first place.

Bad, stupid writing, to make the Black Panther look effective, in a situation where he would really get his ass handed to him.

?
canon,... as in what has gone before has shown that when beings try to restrain the surfer for convo,.... HE DOESN'T RESIST but instead listens before smacking folk around.

I'm surprised it has to be said.

I've seen him grabbed and tossed and held by folk shouting "wait a minute" and the surfer has paused.

Stop the hate.
 
Well, I DO like a lot of what happened, Black Panther having something like this prepared, the whole possibility of having a back up Silver Surfer level of power cosmic now in their hands, Galactus, the return of Gravity, the position of Protector of the Universe opened up again. There's a lot of good stuff aiming to happen in it really.

"three"
 
Cover art previews suggest Nova may recruit a new Corps-person around issue #4 or #5, and it appears to be a female Kree. ;)

hmmmn,...

i wonder :

after the obligationary fight,..

the roughshod training period,

and the "nova in her own right"

is this gonna be his new lovr interest?
 
I ACCEPT that I'm the ONLY one who liked that issue,... but it wasn't as far fetched as the mess i'm reading elsewhere in Marvel.

I had no problem with it. No character should be unbeatable.
 
hmmmn,...

i wonder :

after the obligationary fight,..

the roughshod training period,

and the "nova in her own right"

is this gonna be his new lovr interest?

And forget sexy Gamora so quickly? :word:
 
I'm loving this run as well.

Cannonball should stay with the X-Men. Carey's been writing him like a total badass.

People with powers already shouldn't join the Nova Corps.

I dunno dude...Rich AND Sam as Nova Corps? I'd be in like Flint.
 
not even reading through this thread, but:

the Black Panther putting SS into a supposedly unbreakable hold is bull**** on the highest level. The Surfer isn't human in the first place, so there's no reason his anatomy would be weak to the same hold as a human. He has the power cosmic, he doesn't need a free arm to blast a regular human into a pile of ash. Add that to the fact with his strength level he can go toe-to toe with the Hulk, and no hold is unbreakable when it's being enforced by a guy who can press, what? 2,000 pounds? Less? Oh yes, and the SS can move at the speed of light, so there's no reason T'Challa should have been able to get him into that hold in the first place.

Bad, stupid writing, to make the Black Panther look effective, in a situation where he would really get his ass handed to him.


Eh, I don't mind that BP actually was capable of touching the Surfer. For the most part, the Surfer never uses his speed unless that's all he has left to fight with. It was what happened AFTER the contact that got all of us in the "Bull****" zone.
 
I actually liked the way Panther beat Surfer the second time, that's the Panther I know and love not the "wrestling hold" panther.
 
And forget sexy Gamora so quickly? :word:

no doubt.
after all Gamora was the one putting lil importance to their pairing,.... Rich needs sumbody who wants him,...
 
I dunno dude...Rich AND Sam as Nova Corps? I'd be in like Flint.

i REALLY think he would work out,...


oh,... and heres to praying that ms kree is straight, (Fanboy bitterness that the most attractive women in comics have too many into the same sex among their ranks.)
 
i REALLY think he would work out,...


oh,... and heres to praying that ms kree is straight, (Fanboy bitterness that the most attractive women in comics have too many into the same sex among their ranks.)

I know. Marvel needs to do more with mutants than to just put them on an X-team, or let them flounder in obscurity until someone comes along and wants to put them on an X-team.

Sam Guthrie is perfect for the Nove Corps. Rich depserately needs people to pick up some of the repsonsibility he's shouldering right now, and I think Sam could be the right man for the job.

Plus, he works best when he's adjusting to new environments. Anyone remember his insecurity issues when he first made the leap to "official" X-Man years ago? Good stuff.
 
I meant it as, "If Stark did it." O.o

oh.

Okay.

Well .... Stark is the villian flavor of the year,...

Only Diff between him and Doom in a lotta folks eyes is he's not trying to rule the world.
:dry:
 
I know. Marvel needs to do more with mutants than to just put them on an X-team, or let them flounder in obscurity until someone comes along and wants to put them on an X-team.

Sam Guthrie is perfect for the Nove Corps. Rich depserately needs people to pick up some of the repsonsibility he's shouldering right now, and I think Sam could be the right man for the job.

Plus, he works best when he's adjusting to new environments. Anyone remember his insecurity issues when he first made the leap to "official" X-Man years ago? Good stuff.

And then Sam beat Gladiator. :wow:

I agree it is a problem when mutants seem to do little outside the X-books these days, not giving the impression of inclusiveness but evolving beyond the stereotype. But of course M-Day threw a monkey wrench into that by limiting mutant characters. Hell, back in the 90's, Marvel was falling over themselves getting mutants into everything. It simply is a shame that sometimes, with a lot of policies & franchises, Marvel can't find a sane middle-ground between two extreme positions.

But, Marvel's had a few good launches and relaunches the last 1-2 years, so there is always hope.
 
Like I said, if the guy already has powers, then he should be given more powers. Rick Jones should be asked. Maybe if Happy Hogan wasn't dead, he would have been a good candidate. The Nova corps shouldn't be like the GLs, where theres like three or four from the same planet. Spread it out. Or make up some new guys.
 
And then Sam beat Gladiator. :wow:

I agree it is a problem when mutants seem to do little outside the X-books these days, not giving the impression of inclusiveness but evolving beyond the stereotype. But of course M-Day threw a monkey wrench into that by limiting mutant characters. Hell, back in the 90's, Marvel was falling over themselves getting mutants into everything. It simply is a shame that sometimes, with a lot of policies & franchises, Marvel can't find a sane middle-ground between two extreme positions.

But, Marvel's had a few good launches and relaunches the last 1-2 years, so there is always hope.

That issue of Uncanny X-Men is one of my favorites. :up:
 
Like I said, if the guy already has powers, then he should be given more powers. Rick Jones should be asked. Maybe if Happy Hogan wasn't dead, he would have been a good candidate. The Nova corps shouldn't be like the GLs, where theres like three or four from the same planet. Spread it out. Or make up some new guys.

Happy Hogan would be too old. The only powers Rick Jones should have are Captain Marvel related.
 
Or super evolved human powers. Or like that time he became the Hulk. Rick's had plenty of powers, and he's got expierence. He would make a better Nova then anybody else on the planet.
 
Or super evolved human powers. Or like that time he became the Hulk. Rick's had plenty of powers, and he's got expierence. He would make a better Nova then anybody else on the planet.

Eh...I just disagree. I'd much rather see Sam Guthrie take on the challenge. I like seeing mutants take on different roles other than just being mutants and doing mutanty things.

I like a more grounded Rick Jones....no pun intended.
 

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