Homecoming Was the 2012 reboot pointless?

[Stormz96]

I will say this, Schumacher has the power of nostalgia on his side. Some of the worst movies of the 90s are also some of the biggest nostalgia bombs for me

 

[degraves93]

I will say this, Schumacher has the power of nostalgia on his side. Some of the worst movies of the 90s are also some of the biggest nostalgia bombs

B&R was the first Batman movie I ever saw. I didn't realize just how awful it was until much later.

 

[Stormz96]

B&R was the first Batman movie I ever saw. I didn't realize just how awful it was until much later.

As a kid I played that VHS on replay countless times, I had no clue it was a bad film. I loved it.

I watched a lot of bad films as a child, so there's a special place in my heart for them.

 

[degraves93]

As a kid I played that VHS on replay countless times, I had no clue it was a bad film. I loved it.

I watched a lot of bad films as a child, so there's a special place in my heart for them.

As I've said, some of the casting choices Schumacher made would be awesome if the films were made differently, especially Jones as Two-Face and Thurman as Poison Ivy. But they just weren't.

 

[Stormz96]

As I've said, some of the casting choices Schumacher made would be awesome if the films were made differently, especially Jones as Two-Face and Thurman as Poison Ivy. But they just weren't.

I wonder if Clooney would've played a good batman with a better script

 

[degraves93]

I wonder if Clooney would've played a good batman with a better script

He would have killed it, though in 1997 he wasn't being taken seriously as an actor quite yet. He and Kilmer were just nonentities in the role. That's what happens when the movies are too villain-centric.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

I'm assuming you realize you're in a considerable minority on that. Nevertheless, I genuinely applaud you for saying that anyway. Takes guts. I mean it.

I'm still in the majority of the camp who thinks TASM films suck though hahaha

I will say this, Schumacher has the power of nostalgia on his side. Some of the worst movies of the 90s are also some of the biggest nostalgia bombs for me

BF is mediocre, and B&R is awful. There is no nostalgia factor for me. I don't even care for B89 that much. But I enjoy BF for its campiness, and B&R is so awful it is amazing. TASM2 has no redeeming qualities, save for maybe Zimmer's music.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

yeah. Marvel would want to know whether they can use Spidey in future MCU films, cuz they're already planning those films.

yeah, which means they want to know NOW.

 

[2002SpideyFan]

It was, in all fairness. If you'r gong to reboot anything, especially so early, you better have a good reason for that, and you better have a point for doing that. Unfortunately, The Amazing Spider-Man series never had a point. It was a convoluted, unfocused, messy series of films that had no definitive approach. First film was more about setting up things instead of resolving them. That's why it was pointless. It set up the Peter's parents storyline, Uncle Ben's killer plot, Oscorp's subplot, but the movie never bothered on explaining any of that. With the sequel things got only worse. It became even more convoluted and unfocused. And if you'll see the stuff that they cut out from the film, you'll have a brain damage, since it's just a mess of gigantic proportions. All in all, the series was superbly pointless from every standpoint.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

Yes very pointless and bad.

 

[Neno_Kos]

In sense now? Yes. Reboot was pointless if we knew we would have MCU Spider-Man few years later. But also on other side, if it didnt happen with results we got I wonder would we even have MCU Spider-Man.

 

[2002SpideyFan]

spiderman2, I'm not sure about the percentages, but Raimi's cheese went too repetitive throughout three movies, yes.

The prevailing majority of the recent comic book movies for the past five/six years were pure cheese and repetitiveness. You know, Iron Man, The Avengers, GotG, Ant-Man? They were even more cheesier than Raimi's movies ever were. Doesn't seem to hurt them that much.

 

[Homem-Aranha]

I enjoyed the ASM series,ASM 1 more than the second but no,no it wasn't pointless because without it Spider-Man maybe would never be in the MCU. ahah

 

[harryoscop]

Yes & no

 

[MyDudeSpidey]

Spidey wouldn't be in the MCU if it wasn't for the ASM movies, so no.

 

[harryoscop]

Spidey wouldn't be in the MCU if it wasn't for the ASM movies, so no.

Nah

 

[MrSpyder]

Hmmm?

 

[ernesth100]

If the 2012 reboot never happened we wouldve never got the deal...or atleast not this soon because they wouldve probably been going and doing spinoffs with the Raimi Franchise or another reboot in 2015 or something and we wouldve never gotten Spidey in CW.

 

[DalekbusterFitz]

Yes because it was never going to be as good as the Tobey Maguire version. Only the MCU Spider-Man stands a chance of being of comparable quality - hell, the MCU Spider-Man will probably be better.

 

[StarkTheProdigy]

I just feel like both Amazing Spider-Man films were two separate types of movies. Personally, I throughly enjoyed the first Amazing Spider-Man. But with the route the studio went in to make the sequel, it totally made the reboot pointless

 

[Abudefduf]

Honestly the beating the second movie took kinda turned me off from seeing it, and I still haven't to this day. I guess I'm in the minority who thought the first one showed promise; unfortunately, instead of building up on the decent foundations laid down by the first film, Sony panicked and tried to rip-off MS's formula, with apparently (again, haven't seen it, but I'm not doubting it's bad) catastrophic results.

Still though, the first movie gave us some pretty cool stuff and the lovely Emma Stone was especially great as Gwen Stacy, so I wouldn't say it was completely pointless.

 

[JOE]

The argument could be made either way.

Ying- Without the Webb series Spidey wouldn't have been in the MCU, due to TASM 2's failures.
Yang- If they didn't make the movie the rights would have reverted back to Marvel and he would have been in the MCU anyways.

I don't think it matters whether it was pointless or not. It's Spider-Man entertainment nonetheless. The main thing is that he's in the MCU where he belongs and he's in good hands.

 

[ernesth100]

I mean in the end it really doesnt matter because Spideys in the MCU now. Thats what really matters.

 

[metaphysician]

The only reason TASM existed was to prevent the rights from reverting. I suppose it served that role, since while Sony has made a deal with Marvel, they haven't lost Spider-man entirely. Beyond that, though? Completely pointless.

 

[DalekbusterFitz]

The only reason TASM existed was to prevent the rights from reverting. I suppose it served that role, since while Sony has made a deal with Marvel, they haven't lost Spider-man entirely. Beyond that, though? Completely pointless.

Also: ambitious...but rubbish. t: