Was the class 1-5 mutant stuff ever in the comic books?

Okay. We still dont know how good he is at using his powers. And we dont know that he is the omega of omegas. I know he has no limits but we dont know he could 'beat all omegas'
 
Exploding Boy said:
Okay. We still dont know how good he is at using his powers. And we dont know that he is the omega of omegas. I know he has no limits but we dont know he could 'beat all omegas'

You still don't get it do you? One simply cannot ever say there is an "omega of omegas" or that "one omega at full potential can beat all the others" because it simply can't be done. It'll be like saying that infinity A is greater than infinity B. This is logically impossible. They're both infinity - they cannot be anything but equal.

There's no point in saying that "but we don't know" or "but if he gets better at..." There are no ifs, buts or maybes about it.

It's like playing poker/texas hold'em. An ace is an ace - doesn't matter if its an ace of spades or diamonds. Same with mutants classified in the omega class - they are ALL aces when their full potential is reached.
 
You are so annoying. I know they can't be beaten. Okay whatever, I dont give a ****.
 
Exploding Boy said:
You are so annoying. I know they can't be beaten. Okay whatever, I dont give a ****.

Annoying? What, can't process that much information all at once? Is this rocket science to you? Or was it the part where I said Vulcan is not the "omega of omegas" that tripped your fanboy tail?

BTW, omegas can be beaten. Many people have beat Jean Grey and Iceman many times, sometimes both at once.
 
I'm a fanboy? You're a ****ing idiot. If I was a fanboy I would own alot of comics and know that 'omegas can be beaten' and stupid **** like that.
 
Wow...yeah...

Moving past the lovely flame war that seems to be starting...

The Omega stuff, for me, is painfully simple. Characters who are said to be "omega" are omega. Iceman, Jean, etc. People that want Storm to be 'omega' will have to wait until they land a job with Marvel and get to write a comic, any comic, and just have it in there somewhere that Storm is 'omega level' if it hasn't already been stated. Seeing as how we are sitting here debating over a literary character that is in a constant state of transition, we have to go by what is already printed in Marvel comic form as the facts for the character. If we want that to change, someone else will change it in time. If there's a comic out there that is printed by Marvel affiliated with X-Men and it says "oh yeah...Storm is omega", then that's that.

In the meantime, we can always fill up threads with constant "omg she is" and "omg she isnt" arguments all day. It's really just about accepting what's fact and accepting what's your personal aspirations and hopes for one of your favorite characters.

'Sides, if I had my way, Beast and Cyclops would rule two hemispheres in the comics and blow up planets and do all sorts of god-like superhero things.

Which is why I'll never get a job at Marvel. :)
 
Not trying to prove that 'omg Storm is an Omega' or anything, but...

StormCrazy said:
If Omega means unlimited potential... I still don't know what Storm's limits are..to what extent? I still don't know what she can and cannot do... If making the world Ice Age all over again still doesn't make her Omega... hmm I don't know...I'll be damned.:(

I'm with StormCrazy. If having the potential to affect the entire planet in such a massive way, let alone having the ability to bring about a potential apocalypse doesn't make you Omega... what the hell does? :confused:
 
Deviant said:
Wow...yeah...

Moving past the lovely flame war that seems to be starting...

The Omega stuff, for me, is painfully simple. Characters who are said to be "omega" are omega. Iceman, Jean, etc. People that want Storm to be 'omega' will have to wait until they land a job with Marvel and get to write a comic, any comic, and just have it in there somewhere that Storm is 'omega level' if it hasn't already been stated. Seeing as how we are sitting here debating over a literary character that is in a constant state of transition, we have to go by what is already printed in Marvel comic form as the facts for the character. If we want that to change, someone else will change it in time. If there's a comic out there that is printed by Marvel affiliated with X-Men and it says "oh yeah...Storm is omega", then that's that.

In the meantime, we can always fill up threads with constant "omg she is" and "omg she isnt" arguments all day. It's really just about accepting what's fact and accepting what's your personal aspirations and hopes for one of your favorite characters.

'Sides, if I had my way, Beast and Cyclops would rule two hemispheres in the comics and blow up planets and do all sorts of god-like superhero things.

Which is why I'll never get a job at Marvel. :)

:up:
 
Optic Rage said:
Omega[only X-men that are Omega are jean,Iceman and Elixer]
Alpha[Magneto,XavierStorm,Cyclops etc etc]
Beta[Beast, Angel, Kitty]

will you please explain to me why Iceman is more powerful than Magneto and Xavier?
 
silver_arrow said:
will you please explain to me why Iceman is more powerful than Magneto and Xavier?

Cause Marvel says so. :confused:

Believe me, I'm as confused as you are on how exactly he's Omega... but more confused on how he's an Omega when there are other mutants who definitely should be more powerful than him...
 
silver_arrow said:
will you please explain to me why Iceman is more powerful than Magneto and Xavier?

Because Marvel say he is more powerfull.

He is Omega class...with no limits.

Xavier has reached his peak.....Iceman is FAR from doing so.

Sure at the moment xavier would own him...but we havent seen Bobby at full potential yet..so who knows, he might be imune to Psychic attack at full potential.
 
How the hell can he have no limits? He's Iceman. Emphasis on the ICE...
 
Iceman is like the opposite of the Pheonix which is usually shown engulfed in flames. But they do play up his powers too much, they say he can freeze everyone for miles if he had the confidence in himself. I like to believe he is powerful but no more powerful than your Human Torch.

And they really blow Storms powers out of proportion. If she had such power she could solve world hunger with rain.
 
thorstone said:
And they really blow Storms powers out of proportion. If she had such power she could solve world hunger with rain.

Solve world hunger with rain? Right... :rolleyes:
 
micky-fox said:
Cause Marvel says so. :confused:

Believe me, I'm as confused as you are on how exactly he's Omega... but more confused on how he's an Omega when there are other mutants who definitely should be more powerful than him...

I'm quite confused about that too. But to be fair, I have never been interested enough in Iceman to know what the extent of his powers were.
 
Optic Rage said:
Because Marvel say he is more powerfull.

He is Omega class...with no limits.

Xavier has reached his peak.....Iceman is FAR from doing so.

Sure at the moment xavier would own him...but we havent seen Bobby at full potential yet..so who knows, he might be imune to Psychic attack at full potential.

Ok. Now about this Vulcan guy, if he's as omega as Jean Grey, is it possible then that he can stand a chance against the latter?
 
Mothling said:
I'm quite confused about that too. But to be fair, I have never been interested enough in Iceman to know what the extent of his powers were.

Um... ice rings a bell. :p
 
No-one knows for sure, I don't think. But I'd say a class 3, maybe even a 4.
 
After all, she can absorb the powers of other mutants and use them at her will. If she embraced it, she'd be a rather large threat to anyone near her.
 
well it would be cooler if she could control them....i read a comic where she could control them a bit thanks to therapie of Psylocke/Betsy...
 
MaleRogue said:
well it would be cooler if she could control them....i read a comic where she could control them a bit thanks to therapie of Psylocke/Betsy...
did she have a lil control of it in X2? i mean, she kisses Bobby for more than 4 seconds and absorbs Pyro for more than 12 seconds, and no coma, no death, just some 2 seconds of weird faces...
 
flavio leabeau said:
did she have a lil control of it in X2? i mean, she kisses Bobby for more than 4 seconds and absorbs Pyro for more than 12 seconds, and no coma, no death, just some 2 seconds of weird faces...

She did, indeed.

MaleRogue said:
oke....
are you a Rogue hater by the way???

I didn't get that vibe... :confused:
 

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