Was the class 1-5 mutant stuff ever in the comic books?

[flavio_lebeau]

oke....
are you a Rogue hater by the way???

she's my favorite character? and i mean in the movies too.

 

[micky-fox]

My 'I didn't get that vibe' proved to be a correct vibe... I might have some type of psychic power!

*GASP!*

 

[flavio_lebeau]

My 'I didn't get that vibe' proved to be a correct vibe... I might have some type of psychic power!

*GASP!*

let the evolution start

 

[MaleRogue]

she's my favorite character? and i mean in the movies too.

Well it was just a question
Sorry it was a weird one haha D

 

[MaleRogue]

Yeah but I read one that she has therapie with Psylocke and that she learns to control her powers to full extend

 

[MaleRogue]

So she can touch people whenever she wants

 

[micky-fox]

Wow... I'd like to know some more about that. That seems really interesting. I wish they'd work towards an outcome similar to this in the films instead of the same old 'can't touch anyone' routine.

 

[flavio_lebeau]

Well it was just a question
Sorry it was a weird one haha D

maybe you thought i hate her because of the uniform talk. Its just i love her movie outfit and hair so much that i would hate to see green/yellow spandex with curly hair...
the only thing Rogue needs to change is her personality (and get her powers back) but i love her and Anna...

 

[Optic Rage]

Ok. Now about this Vulcan guy, if he's as omega as Jean Grey, is it possible then that he can stand a chance against the latter?

I doubt it...but thats just me.

I suppose we wont know untill we see the two of them go at it.

 

[silver_arrow]

Do you think he can protect himself from being demolecularized? I like to see him in xmen 4 in the place of Cyclops if the latter can't come back. If Jean were alive, he could go to her to avenge his death. And there we could see them fight. Just a thought.

 

[ico]

Do you think he can protect himself from being demolecularized?

I highly doubt it. Jeans power works by focusing on every molecule and pulling them all apart via telekinesis. I don't think anything or anyone could withstand that unless they could survive in a zillion pieces, or if they were stronger than her, telekinetic wise, and hold themselevs together while she tries to pull them apart.

 

[Optic Rage]

He can control all forms of energy.

Its just a question if he is powerfull enough to control the energy that jean uses.

 

[silver_arrow]

but scientifically speaking --provided also that they are both masters of their own powers-- if Jean would attempt to pull the atoms in his body apart, he could either summon energy to create force field to thwart the telepathic manipulation, or hold his molecules together--it's energy that controls molecules,particularly, atomic energy.

 

[ico]

Then I guess, yes, he could stop himself from being demolecularised

 

[silver_arrow]

So it'll be a battle of will and wisdom.If he can control energy, then he can also control the atomic energy in Jean's set of molecules, probably letting go of too many electrons, imbalancing her body molecules enough to demolecularize her as well.

 

[javon]

I highly doubt it. Jeans power works by focusing on every molecule and pulling them all apart via telekinesis. I don't think anything or anyone could withstand that unless they could survive in a zillion pieces, or if they were stronger than her, telekinetic wise, and hold themselevs together while she tries to pull them apart.

Well can't Master M withstand that since he controls molecules?

 

[PhoenixIsTheOne]

I think it'd be a tie between Jean and Master M!

 

[Kanon]

I hate that "Omega mutant" thing...

After reading lots of boring threads about it (most of them about Storm and Jean :P ) it seems to me that Omega is not a measure of power, but a classification. Alpha, on the other side is a measure, as in how much damage you can do.
Example: You can have a power that doesn't pose a threat to anyone and can be defeated easily in a fight, but since its source is unlimited, or it enables you to trascend your body and become one with the universe and that stuff, that makes you an Omega.

 

[Radagast_Prime]

I hate that "Omega mutant" thing...

After reading lots of boring threads about it (most of them about Storm and Jean :P ) it seems to me that Omega is not a measure of power, but a classification. Alpha, on the other side is a measure, as in how much damage you can do.
Example: You can have a power that doesn't pose a threat to anyone and can be defeated easily in a fight, but since its source is unlimited, or it enables you to trascend your body and become one with the universe and that stuff, that makes you an Omega.

That makes sense. It would explain why Elixer has been said to be omega and why Mags hasn't been.

 

[javon]

Why?

 

[micky-fox]

I hate that "Omega mutant" thing...

After reading lots of boring threads about it (most of them about Storm and Jean :P ) it seems to me that Omega is not a measure of power, but a classification. Alpha, on the other side is a measure, as in how much damage you can do.
Example: You can have a power that doesn't pose a threat to anyone and can be defeated easily in a fight, but since its source is unlimited, or it enables you to trascend your body and become one with the universe and that stuff, that makes you an Omega.

I agree with you on this. It seems to make a lot of sense. Don't burn me at the stake for saying this, but... wouldn't that make Storm an Omega? She has became an elemental entity before, and the source of her power is unlimited. She might not be as powerful as Phoenix, but the source of her individual power is endless...

 

[D-scythe]

I agree with you on this. It seems to make a lot of sense. Don't burn me at the stake for saying this, but... wouldn't that make Storm an Omega? She has became an elemental entity before, and the source of her power is unlimited. She might not be as powerful as Phoenix, but the source of her individual power is endless...

Three points:

- Storm became an elemental entity in an alternate time-line/universe.

- the source of her power is not unlimited, and there has never been any indication anywhere that suggests that it is.

- Even if the source of her power is unlimited, her potential to utilize the source is not. Her potential has never been stated as infinite, and that's the critical element in being an omega-mutant.

 

[micky-fox]

- Even if the source of her power is unlimited, her potential to utilize the source is not. Her potential has never been stated as infinite, and that's the critical element in being an omega-mutant.

She can control the weather... that is her power. She has infinite control over the weather. Wouldn't that be classed as an unlimited source of her power? Or have I missed something? Does it refer to having endless control over your individual power of power on the whole?

 

[D-scythe]

She can control the weather... that is her power. She has infinite control over the weather. Wouldn't that be classed as an unlimited source of her power? Or have I missed something? Does it refer to having endless control over your individual power of power on the whole?

You missed the part where it's never been stated that she has infinite control of the weather. At best, she has mastery over the weather in the same degree as Magneto has mastery over electromagnetism, and Magsy is not an omega mutant by any means.

 

[micky-fox]

You missed the part where it's never been stated that she has infinite control of the weather. At best, she has mastery over the weather in the same degree as Magneto has mastery over electromagnetism, and Magsy is not an omega mutant by any means.

So basically, being an Omega means you must have complete mastery over your skills? That simplifies it a lot.

It has never been stated that she has complete control over the weather, but it has been shown. She can utilize wind to stop bullets in the air, sense if something is wrong with the earth, affect the globe on a cosmic scale, create electric forcefields and so on... it seems to me that she can do more than simply control the weather.

It has never been stated that she is Omega, but nor has it been said that she's Alpha. This is an interesting topic to discuss.