Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Way too politically uber-correct?

[chamber-music]

They are using Madame Masque and the Secret Empire as villains although none of those names have been used on the show which may be why people aren't catching onto the fact the villains are from the comics.

I didn't realize The Council of Nine is supposed to be The Secret Empire until last week and Whitney Frost is pretty different to her comic counterpart.

 

[TheVileOne]

Has the Council come off as the least bit threatening or intimidating at all this season? They come off like a Shriners club to me.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

...All of this to quote a right-wing "it's hard out there for the white man" post from IMDb for a show titled and revolving around a female protagonist set in the United States in the 1940s. Really.

A waste of good bandwidth by some IMDb Donald Trump wannabe.

 

[Yowza]

The show was on the nose in season 1 but seemed a tighter package of smart writing, fast pacing, not overindulging just giving it as it is allowing place for humor to seep through.

The part with the telephone lady suddenly turning into a blue collared bareknuckles brawler, Sousa and Thompson in unison saying do what Peggy says amongst other things (whole female villain angle to match Peggy in every way and buffoonish henchmen/husbands who get all the unearned credit) didn't work as the show's plot just wasn't involving to me. In combination with this, it felt like others have said, humor was being shoehorned into scenes that didn't need it pretty frenetically.

Things felt more stagey to the point where if something was on the nose it just felt annoying as opposed to charmingly funny or plot oriented.

 

[Donald Thomas]

Heaven forbid a show cater to people other than white males.

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[ralphuniverse]

G'day,

I didn't mind the first season but the second season was just stupid. They created a Disnyfied PC version of the 1940's that was fake as to be ridiculous. No body smoked, yet in reality everyone smoked. A black man was romantically interested in a white woman and no one said anything? Segregation was alive and well, there were laws ant- miscegenation laws in many states, everywhere else it would have been severely frowned upon. No one used the completely appropriate words of the time, Negro or Colored. Instead we have an obese telephonist whos a bare knuckle fighter and super genius woman who turns to crime because men were against her.

The show was cancelled. That is why.

The show was on the nose in season 1 but seemed a tighter package of smart writing, fast pacing, not overindulging just giving it as it is allowing place for humor to seep through.

The part with the telephone lady suddenly turning into a blue collared bareknuckles brawler, Sousa and Thompson in unison saying do what Peggy says amongst other things (whole female villain angle to match Peggy in every way and buffoonish henchmen/husbands who get all the unearned credit) didn't work as the show's plot just wasn't involving to me. In combination with this, it felt like others have said, humor was being shoehorned into scenes that didn't need it pretty frenetically.

Things felt more stagey to the point where if something was on the nose it just felt annoying as opposed to charmingly funny or plot oriented.

 

[Sara Lance]

The ratings didn't sink because of political correctness. Honestly this is the biggest idiocy I have ever heard. The ratings sank because instead of treating Carter like a goddman hero and let have an interesting storyline with real fleshed out villains what she really needs is some dick. So they practically shoved romance down our throat from the first episode. And then they decided to take a great and fascinating historiccial figure and adapt her to the show. But instead of making her a confidant and friend to Carter who helps they made her a pathetic insane villain

It was a mess and I blame the writers entirely

 

[SPO2 Dalisay]

G'day,

I didn't mind the first season but the second season was just stupid. They created a Disnyfied PC version of the 1940's that was fake as to be ridiculous. No body smoked, yet in reality everyone smoked. A black man was romantically interested in a white woman and no one said anything? Segregation was alive and well, there were laws ant- miscegenation laws in many states, everywhere else it would have been severely frowned upon. No one used the completely appropriate words of the time, Negro or Colored. Instead we have an obese telephonist whos a bare knuckle fighter and super genius woman who turns to crime because men were against her.

The show was cancelled. That is why.

The thing is that Agent Carter's second season attempted to put a spotlight on what The First Avenger and the first season of Agent Carter ignored entirely and still only went halfway there. Remember the black club owner in the first season making moves on an undercover Carter while his white mooks smiled?

If my entire knowledge of the period American racial relations came from that movie and series then you could ask when did this suddenly become a problem. About the only pre Luke Cage MCU mention was Director Fury making a driving while black reference before the Hydra assassination attempt on him.

 

[LTuser]

There's an interesting post over on IMDB that makes the point that the show is frankly TOO politically correct for its own good. I couldn't exactly argue the point.

Neither can I. In fact, his point of "white males, seem to be antagonists/villans" is very spot on.

Is this tone (consciously injected or otherwise) the reason why the rating have sunk and why the show already feels stale? Are the writers being held back by ABC political correctness or are they just bad? I liked the first two episodes far more than this guy but what he mentioned did resonate with me.

That's one of the main reasons i don't watch a lot of new shows, cause i dislike how they seem to shove the PC agenda down our throats..

They can't have it both ways, however. I really do like the feminist undertones and racial equality elements especially since its 1947. They are simply handled in a ham-fisted way. Everything is cleaned up to a PC 2016 level. (There's not even a cigarette in sight.) It's just strikes me as oversensitive writing to the point of tipping it to an unrealistic politically correct utopian and revisionist agenda. In other words, there are very few shades of gray in character writing and development and that IS boring.

That's something that irked me about several films. IF we even SEE a smoke, its being done by the bad guy.. Almost like they are propagandizing "Tobacco = evil".

Plus, having Peggy be the only real competent agent while every white man is either incompetent or a letch just makes a person roll their eyes after a while.

I know several of my friends certainly pointed that angle out.. But then again it is very prevalent in most new shows/tv adverts. Male parent = incompetent, bumbling, idiots. Female parent or female in general = smart, wise etc..

 

[nypinta]

Are you saying a show named after the main character isn't supposed to feature her as the hero? So, on Sherlock, everyone else should be as smart as him, right? Seriously, that's an absurd complaint.

Almost like they are propagandizing "Tobacco = evil".

Because smoking kills people. So, yeah.