We Could Have Made DarkSentinel Wrestling Thread Champion If We Wanted! - Part 203

[Specter313]

Found this kinda funny:

 

[X Knight]

so, guys, this is something that I've been wondering for some time now.

On a live show like RAW, where the show cuts to commercial breaks, do the wrestlers have some kind of cue when the show goes to breaks, and then when it returns, so they can time their spots?

 

[Bat Brain]

so, guys, this is something that I've been wondering for some time now.

On a live show like RAW, where the show cuts to commercial breaks, do the wrestlers have some kind of cue when the show goes to breaks, and then when it returns, so they can time their spots?

I believe the referee lets them know. He gets the info through his earpiece.

 

[X Knight]

I believe the referee lets them know. He gets the info through his earpiece.

oh, really??

thanks.

 

[DarkSentinel]

Paige is an English rose get your hand's off her you filthy animals.

FYI, Paige is my blow-up doll.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I could see a promo for Samoa Joe when he gets on the main roster in that while he has much admiration and respect for "The Family" he wants to prove that a Samoan wrestler can make it in the WWE without being a member of "The Family."

 

[DarkSentinel]

I could see a promo for Samoa Joe when he gets on the main roster in that while he has much admiration and respect for "The Family" he wants to prove that a Samoan wrestler can make it in the WWE without being a member of "The Family."

That'd make for a decent Joe/Reigns feud.

 

[S. Grundy]

Gotta say the Cesaro/Kidd/New Day feud has been booked perfectly. Even though Cesaro and Kidd have been losing, they still come off as strong contenders. And the New Day using cheating tactics doesn't take away that they are strong competitors.

 

[Cmithras]

I kind of feel bad for Naomi, Nikki and Paige. There is going to be so much pressure on them to deliver a great match at Elimination Chamber after what Sasha Banks and Becky Lynch did at NXT Takeover: Unstoppable. I think that if the match is not given adequate time and is less than amazing, the internet will crucify them and Vince.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I kind of feel bad for Naomi, Nikki and Paige. There is going to be so much pressure on them to deliver a great match at Elimination Chamber after what Sasha Banks and Becky Lynch did at NXT Takeover: Unstoppable. I think that if the match is not given adequate time and is less than amazing, the internet will crucify them and Vince.

The sad thing is that the Divas and Vince are only part of the problem. There's the WWE fanbase, who have been trained too long to dismiss women's wrestling. The optimist in me hopes that if you were to put Sasha Banks VS Becky Lynch in front of the Elimination Chamber crowd it would blow them away. But the more cynical part of me fears they'd sit on their hands or chant BORING! before the match was even given a fair chance to get going. It's not just the talent in the WWE Divas division that's holding them back. It's a whole mode of presentation and a whole entrenched mindset of the fans that needs to be turned around.

 

[Donnie Darko]

The sad thing is that the Divas and Vince are only part of the problem. There's the WWE fanbase, who have been trained too long to dismiss women's wrestling. The optimist in me hopes that if you were to put Sasha Banks VS Becky Lynch in front of the Elimination Chamber crowd it would blow them away. But the more cynical part of me fears they'd sit on their hands or chant BORING! before the match was even given a fair chance to get going. It's not just the talent in the WWE Divas division that's holding them back. It's a whole mode of presentation and a whole entrenched mindset of the fans that needs to be turned around.

I agree with this. I'm hoping that recent pops for some of the divas, in addition to how great the division is in NXT, will help the women on the main roster, but I feel like for so long, there has been a vicious cycle of WWE treats the division like crap, so fans dismiss it, so WWE treats it like crap, so fans dismiss it...


And as much as I would like to put the blame solely on WWE, when fans would start chanting the names of retired wrestlers and commentators before a diva match even started, they are just as big a problem as the company.

 

[JabarR]

*Spoilers* NXT Tapings Results Through June 17th

Spoiler

WWE taped the next four episodes of NXT TV on Thursday night from Full Sail University in Winter Park, Florida. Here are spoiler results through June 17th via WrestlingRumors.net:

Airing May 27th:

– The show began with NXT Champion Kevin Owens, who entered to Sami Zayn’s entrance theme. Owens proceeded to take verbal jabs at Zayn, Samoa Joe, and John Cena. NXT General Manager William Regal came out to talk about Owens putting his hands on him at “NXT Takeover: Unstoppable.” Solomon Crowe then made his way to the ring, calling Owens a “piece of crap.” For later in the night, Regal made an Owens vs. Crowe match.

– Emma (w/ Dana Brooke) def. Bayley- After the match, Emma and Dana Brooke teamed up to attack Bayley. However, Charlotte made the save, as the babyfaces stood tall to close the segment.

– NXT Tag Team Champions Blake and Murphy (w/ Alexa Bliss) def. Elias Samson and Mike Rallis in a non-title match

– Finn Balor def. Tye Dillinger

– NXT Champion Kevin Owens def. Solomon Crowe in a non-title match- Following the bout, Owens looked to deliver a powerbomb to Crowe on the apron. However, Samoa Joe interrupted. Joe rushed the ring, as Owens fled to the dismay of the crowd.

Airing June 3rd:

– Tyler Breeze def. Adam Rose

Backstage, Greg Hamilton interviewed Eva Marie. While the crowd heavily booed, Eva said she is hoping to wrestle in the NXT Divas division.

– Alexa Bliss (w/ Blake and Murphy) def. Carmella (w/ Enzo Amore and Big Cass)

– The Vaudevillains def. Marcus Louis and Jason Jordan

– Finn Balor def. Rhyno- Balor got the win with a roll-up pin, after Rhyno missed a “Gore” attempt. After the match, Rhyno returned to deliver a “Gore” to Balor off the stage. The show closed with trainers helping Balor to the back.

Airing June 10th:

– Zack Ryder and Mojo Rawley def. Elias Sampson and Mike Wallace

– Emma def. Blue Pants

– Tyler Breeze def. Bull Dempsey

– Becky Lynch def. Jessie McKay

– Baron Corbin def. Angelo Dawkins

– Samoa Joe def. Scott Dawson- In his first NXT match, Samoa Joe got the win with a muscle buster. NXT Champion Kevin Owens was on commentary for the bout, and was called out by Joe after his victory. Owens told Joe to be thankful that he is not currently being choked. The NXT Champion belittled Joe, calling him a rookie who has to earn a title shot. William Regal then made his way to the ring, announcing the two will face off in singles action in a non-title match next week.

Airing June 17th:

– Enzo Amore, Big Cass, and Carmella def. Blake, Murphy and Alexa Bliss

– The Vaudevillains def. Jason Jordan and The Kaze- The match ended after it appeared The Kaze got legitimately injured. Trainers and EMTs were on the scene to check on him, aiding him to the back after several minutes.

– Samoa Joe vs. Kevin Owens ended in a no contest. The match broke down after Owens threw the referee into Joe. The two continued to brawl, with the referee knocked unconscious. Eventually, the two had to be separated by NXT referees and officials. Joe was about to leave, but Owens called him a “*****.” Again, the two brawled. This time, the new crop of NXT recruits had to try and separate the two. Still, the two raged on. Owens knocked down two of the recruits, and posed on stage with the title. Joe, on the other hand, received a huge roar from the crowd, as the show and brawl concluded.

 

[Pink Ranger]

The sad thing is that the Divas and Vince are only part of the problem. There's the WWE fanbase, who have been trained too long to dismiss women's wrestling. The optimist in me hopes that if you were to put Sasha Banks VS Becky Lynch in front of the Elimination Chamber crowd it would blow them away. But the more cynical part of me fears they'd sit on their hands or chant BORING! before the match was even given a fair chance to get going. It's not just the talent in the WWE Divas division that's holding them back. It's a whole mode of presentation and a whole entrenched mindset of the fans that needs to be turned around.

The worst part is, they might put that match in a "bad" spot, like for example just after something like Cesaro vs. Zayn for the Intercontinental Title and just before Rollins vs. Lesnar for the World Title, aka the bathroom match, aka the match we trim in case the awesome IC match goes long.

I'm not unrealistic enough to think a diva match could or should ever main event a PPV, there's too much money and too many jobs on the line to take that step, but where it is placed on the card is important. Maybe a good place is second match on the card; somebody else has already jerked the curtain, the crowd is still hot and eager to see something new, it would be a good signal to the divas that they are being invested in.

 

[Donnie Darko]

I'm not unrealistic enough to think a diva match could or should ever main event a PPV, there's too much money and too many jobs on the line to take that step, but where it is placed on the card is important

When it comes time for Sasha, Becky and/or Charlotte to move up to the main roster, I could actually see some combination of that group being the main event of an NXT Takeover special. It would be a great way to show appreciation for everything the women down there have done and would be a really special "graduation ceremony" for them. The NXT crowd would probably be 100% behind it, too.

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

With Elimination Chamber being a network exclusive, I wonder if that allows them to run the show past 3 hours?

 

[PyroChamber]

The sad thing is that the Divas and Vince are only part of the problem. There's the WWE fanbase, who have been trained too long to dismiss women's wrestling. The optimist in me hopes that if you were to put Sasha Banks VS Becky Lynch in front of the Elimination Chamber crowd it would blow them away. But the more cynical part of me fears they'd sit on their hands or chant BORING! before the match was even given a fair chance to get going. It's not just the talent in the WWE Divas division that's holding them back. It's a whole mode of presentation and a whole entrenched mindset of the fans that needs to be turned around.

Is it the way that the main roster Divas are presented and booked that just make fans not give a damn about what they do, or is it just fans who don't give two ****s about womens wrestling period?

 

[chamber-music]

A certain section of those parent's basement dwelling misogynists that make up the wrestling fanbase just hate women in general. No point trying to win over those losers. Most of them seem more interested in the size of guys muscles than wrestling.

The rest of the sane wrestling fanbase would be into WWE women's wrestling if it was marketed, booked and packaged better.

It isn't difficult to see why people aren't interested in divas on the main roster. Divas wrestling was made to look like a side show or filler for years.

I remember when 4 out of 5 divas matches ended in a roll up. The commentary team usually just s*** all over the women. They seem more interested in how pale Paige is than anything she does in the ring. The Divas are written to behave like high school girls from the movie Mean Girls.

Women's wrestling on NXT is treated as a part on the main show rather than a side show. The commentary team sell the women in the ring, the feuds and the women's abilities. Each woman has a distinct character and look.

 

[OnTheAir]

 

[Keyser Soze]

I've been digging a bit more into NXT since getting WWE Network, and I'm really loving the product. It reminds me of what I love about wrestling when it's at its best, and as such it kinda puts much of the main WWE product to shame. Tonight, I went back and watched NXT Takeover: REvolution, and man, what a show! Enjoyable top to bottom, and looking at it in the context of the lay of the land in the promotion, it really seems to work as a beginning of the current era.

First such significant moment was, of course, Kevin Owens making his debut in the opening match. And what an impression he made! It's fun watching the crowd being red hot for him playing the face when he'd turn heel so soon afterwards.

It was also really cool seeing Finn Balor make his crazy demon entrance for the first time in NXT, and people having a total WTF reaction.

As I've now come to expect, the Women's Title match tore the house down. But it seems like this was the show where people were really like, "Hang on, Sasha Banks is freaking great!" I'd give her match with Becky Lynch the edge, perhaps, for having a bit more psychology behind it, whereas this was more all-out action. But this was just a great, high-octane match, and as amazing as Sasha Banks is, Charlotte Flair matched her step for step. She really does command the ring like a pedigree athlete, and the time is surely due for her to get the call up to the main roster. Though having said that, I do kinda dread her going up there and getting ignored for not being "pretty" enough.

The main event was fantastic. It told such a great story. You have this physical dynamic where Adrian Neville is just this classic physical specimen, looking like his body was cut from granite, tanned, shaved all over and with the polished classic ring gear, while Sami Zayn is a wee pale, hairy, ginger guy with a physique not too far off mine, and in the early going Neville just has the crisper technique to keep on one-upping Zayn. But Zayn has the passion and the heart behind him. Zayn can bring it in the ring with an incredible move set, but more than that, it's that emotion that should surely cement his place on the main roster in the not too distant future. He can wrestle "from the bottom" and tell a great story while losing better than just about anyone right now, and his facial expressions throughout told a whole story in themselves... that eerie calm he had at the start seemed to be foreshadowing his loss.

And of course you have Sami Zayn VS Kevin Owens. The ending was dramatically executed, with the little logo coming up making you think the show was over just as Owens turned. But I also loved the foreshadowing earlier, how in the split-screen feature when we were supposed to be focusing on Zayn's sitdown interview, in the other screen we see Zayn sat in the locker room, and in the background, out of focus, Kevin Owens, intently staring at him. This is a feud for the ages that has carried through ROH and now into NXT, and I could totally see a killer video package being made for the WrestleMania main event between these two one day.

I'll be watching NXT Rival soon, for sure. And just think of all the great non-NXT stuff I've still to explore on the WWE Network!

 

[PyroChamber]

Who is that between Trish and Ivory?

A certain section of those parent's basement dwelling misogynists that make up the wrestling fanbase just hate women in general. No point trying to win over those losers. Most of them seem more interested in the size of guys muscles than wrestling.

Sadly, a lot of those basement dwellers roam the WrestlingForum.

 

[S. Grundy]

For 53, Ivory is still looking damn good.

 

[zeroapoc]

Who is that between Trish and Ivory?

Sadly, a lot of those basement dwellers roam the WrestlingForum.

We're usually good for at least one "piss break" comment during PPVs in this thread as well.

 

[Dr. Evil]

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[OnTheAir]

Who is that between Trish and Ivory?

Little Egypt from GLOW

 

[Lead Cenobite]

Who is that between Trish and Ivory?

Sadly, a lot of those basement dwellers roam the WrestlingForum.

Jerry Lawler's ex-wife Stacy Carter who was Miss Kitty/The Kat.

Edit: It was just a guess. I assumed she was a former Attitude era diva since the rest of them are.