World Web shooter shop class - Part 1

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MSaleem said:
WOW I need to research more before I post.

The idea sounds good, but isn't it kind of big? And then you have to fit it inside of an aersol can. Plus, if the can is strapped to out hand, the spray with go upwards. Then we have to create tubing that take is to have to dry spin.
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Who are you talking to? Iron spider?
 
spidey44 said:
No, it surrounds the bag
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http://www.bagonvalve.com/en/index.htm

Go to FAQ and it says they already have a propellent that they put. Nitrogen. I'm not sure which one is stronger. Nitrogen or CO2

Now, there is only two problems. The size/weight and the position it is facing. If it was laying on its side, then the nozzle will be looking up. Shooting up
wards
 
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Both of them have the same strength. Nitrogen though, probably has a lower chance of freezing the shooter because it's room temperature. What was up with the talk of mighty putty anyway. It's epoxy putty and it takes time to settle...
 
Sorry I'm going to start building, but research it a little more.
 
Alright post on your progress on white_widows site
 
Sal: it's under new ideas (for now, maybe under theories soon)

EDIT: It just explains through a formula how weight of the person, speed, and length of the web affect the "actual" weight the web has to carry. plus an additional force. basically, even for a very light individual such as a child or early teenager, the web would have to hold SEVERAL hundred pounds of force for swinging to be possible. the force increases as the weight and speed go up, and web length decreases
 
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Spider-Man's web-shooters were perhaps his most distinguishing trait, after his costume. Peter had reasoned that a spider (even a human one) needed a web. Since the radioactive spider-bite did not initially grant him the power to spin webs, he had instead found a way to produce them artificially. The wrist-mounted devices fire an adhesive "webbing" (see below) through a threaded adjustable nozzle. The trigger rests high in the palm and requires a double tap from the middle two fingers to activate, eliminating the chance of accidental discharge when forming a fist.[54] To accomplish this his hands are often in a distinctive hand position when he fires them (resembling the sign for "I love you" in American Sign Language, reverting someone giving you the "Evil Eye" in Italian superstition or the horned hand heavy-metal gesture). In order to fire the webbing, Spider-Man's fingers must hit the sensor precisely.
Spider-Man must steadily replenish his webbing supply, reloading his web-shooters with small cartridges of web fluid, which is stored under high pressure. In early stories, he carries his extra supplies in a utility belt worn under his costume.[55] Later on, he equips the web-shooters with a bracelet-like carousel that automatically rotates a new cartridge into position as he empties them. When in use, a steel nipple in the carousel pierces the seal of the cartridge, and allows the fluid to travel through an air-tight channel toward the nozzle. Pressing down on the palm-trigger of the web-shooter causes the valve in the nozzle to open wider, expelling the fluid. Releasing the trigger causes the valves to close, cutting off the web-line or fluid. If Spider-Man creates any variation to his normal web formula that's too strong for the pinch valves to sever, he might end up being tangled up or tied to the object he attached his web to. This has happened on more than one occasion. His web-shooters require constant maintenance and on more than one occasion suffer jams or malfunctions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man's_powers_and_equipment
 
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Spider-Man's web-shooters were perhaps his most distinguishing trait, after his costume. Peter had reasoned that a spider (even a human one) needed a web. Since the radioactive spider-bite did not initially grant him the power to spin webs, he had instead found a way to produce them artificially. The wrist-mounted devices fire an adhesive "webbing" (see below) through a threaded adjustable nozzle. The trigger rests high in the palm and requires a double tap from the middle two fingers to activate, eliminating the chance of accidental discharge when forming a fist.[54] To accomplish this his hands are often in a distinctive hand position when he fires them (resembling the sign for "I love you" in American Sign Language, reverting someone giving you the "Evil Eye" in Italian superstition or the horned hand heavy-metal gesture). In order to fire the webbing, Spider-Man's fingers must hit the sensor precisely.
Spider-Man must steadily replenish his webbing supply, reloading his web-shooters with small cartridges of web fluid, which is stored under high pressure. In early stories, he carries his extra supplies in a utility belt worn under his costume.[55] Later on, he equips the web-shooters with a bracelet-like carousel that automatically rotates a new cartridge into position as he empties them. When in use, a steel nipple in the carousel pierces the seal of the cartridge, and allows the fluid to travel through an air-tight channel toward the nozzle. Pressing down on the palm-trigger of the web-shooter causes the valve in the nozzle to open wider, expelling the fluid. Releasing the trigger causes the valves to close, cutting off the web-line or fluid. If Spider-Man creates any variation to his normal web formula that's too strong for the pinch valves to sever, he might end up being tangled up or tied to the object he attached his web to. This has happened on more than one occasion. His web-shooters require constant maintenance and on more than one occasion suffer jams or malfunctions.
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thanks for that insightful copy and paste from wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man's_powers_and_equipment
 
I'm done building for the day, any more questions about the bag on valve?
 
Hey, does anyone know how to make a heating coil? I know White Widow posted a link, but it says heating source and I'm not sure where I get one or how to.
 
Wow. It's like reading a novel!

To Sal: the palm slap wasn't really a mean gesture. The thing is to compress air, you just need any air and a schrader valve. What tipped me off was the "CO2 I guess" It's co2 or just regular air. It's very simple.

To Black widow: The bag in a can is very good. Imagine a toothpaste tube. You remember in the spiderman movie when he squeezed the tube and the paste flies out? It's the same concept. The bag is filled with formula. The pressure from that CO2, nitrogen, nitrous oxide, or regular air squeezes the bag.

Also, as for the "what is the problem"; there is none. I've built a web shooter. It clogged, so I need a new pressure vessel and tubing, but we are done with everything but the spinneret.

To spidey 44: You are really good at the research. Respect.

As for Nolder: The swinging in the amazing spider man is actually quite realistic in the movie. It's wall running like the prince of persia with rope and parkour. The swinging in the movie is actually quite realistic up until the point where peter got shot and he was swinging from the cranes. The only problem with swinging if you do TASM style is how strong the adhesive is. That's why I don't like it. Let's not lie. My first test of strength of a strong enough polymer will be to hang from it after tying it to something. I'll swing from it. Only then will I try the adhesive. I just don't trust ANY glue enough to put my life on the line to test it.
 
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White_widow said:
Wow. It's like reading a novel!

To Sal: the palm slap wasn't really a mean gesture. The thing is to compress air, you just need any air and a schrader valve. What tipped me off was the "CO2 I guess" It's co2 or just regular air. It's very simple.

To Black widow: The bag in a can is very good. Imagine a toothpaste tube. You remember in the spiderman movie when he squeezed the tube and the paste flies out? It's the same concept. The bag is filled with formula. The pressure from that CO2, nitrogen, nitrous oxide, or regular air squeezes the bag.

Also, as for the "what is the problem"; there is none. I've built a web shooter. It clogged, so I need a new pressure vessel and tubing, but we are done with everything but the spinneret.

To spidey 44: You are really good at the research. Respect.

As for Nolder: The swinging in the amazing spider man is actually quite realistic in the movie. It's wall running like the prince of persia with rope and parkour. The swinging in the movie is actually quite realistic up until the point where peter got shot and he was swinging from the cranes. The only problem with swinging if you do TASM style is how strong the adhesive is. That's why I don't like it. Let's not lie. My first test of strength of a strong enough polymer will be to hang from it after tying it to something. I'll swing from it. Only then will I try the adhesive. I just don't trust ANY glue enough to put my life on the line to test it.
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Geez. That is great!!! We can finish this thing by the end of July or at most August or September!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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