World Web shooter shop class - Part 1

[infinitecrator0]

sorry for that let me try again

 

[infinitecrator0]

http://zipperboi.deviantart.com/#/d591mh0
this are some crappy designs i drew up

 

[Aracno_8000]

Hi guys. I'm about to post a new idea...let me talk with the Genius before, and then we'll discuss it.
Good Night everyone.

 

[WallCrawler3344]

Two things. 1) That is the BEST web shooter design I have ever read. It's simple, and I'm sure this is very effective. Do you mind if I use that? 2) I would be using it for the great or good. To protect people. But it can be used for many things. Helping others in need, policemen can use it for getaway cars and robbers, depending on how strong and flame ******ant the formula is, it could be used for holding burning building from collapsing(just a theory). It has endless uses.

Absolutley! Go ahead! Just make sure to post it if it works... And give credit... And dont be spider man, thats my job... BTW, remember that the fluid is experimental. Don't use it unless the bond strength can support your weight and then some.

 

[WallCrawler3344]

Excuse me, WallCrawler3344...i'm italian, sometimes i don't understand very well the instructions in this forum..can i ask you some explanations?

1) we are going to adapt the can to our wrist, and then we need 2 valves...
i don't understand how these 2 valves are going to be connected or positioned inside the shooter, sorry :\

2) Then, after i put the wrist watch on the nozzle, you talked about an adjuster...how should work it? can you explain me it please?

3) When you mentioned the bycicle shifter, it should be used as a trigger, am i right?

1.) it's fine. The valves would go on the outside, on the side opposite of the watch head. I.E. if you're looking at your wrist face up, the valve should be towards the floor

2. In my idea, I meant for it I work like a door; when the shifter pulls back, plastic pushes down on the button, like if you had a ball in a doorway, the ball would move forward if you closed the door.

3.) Yes, and if you want to get all nerdy with me, you can add two buttons and bring wires down to the nozzle, make rotors under the button, and drill different hole designs into the nozzle's different sides, so different web shapes will form. Also, as I didn't mention before, you might have to put the formula components in sepparatly, as to start the metabolizing until after shot.

As for the rest of y'all. You should know I got most of my idea from the AMAZING SPIDER MAN concept art. Check it on google images, it's awesome. I just came up with an easier way to go about it. Oh, and FYI, when I say 'adjuster' I mean the knob on the side that moves the time along for synchronizing. Got it?
Also, if anyone really cares, if the formula I typed doesnt work, then feel free to experiment with it; this is a thread, after all! I just took three things that Peter proll'y did;
1. Easy to find
2. Cheap
3. Probably works...

Keep posting. DONT give up! We're almost there!

 

[WallCrawler3344]

I tried to draw WallCrawler3344 idea:
Here is the link to the image (deviantart is rolling every image i'm uploading O.O...sorry for this issue.) http://aracno8000.deviantart.com/art/WallCrawler3344-project-assembling-318326994

i removed the valves connection part to ask you how the web shooter should be assembled

every comment or idea would be so much appreciate.

Pretty fricking sweet. I imagined the head and nozzle being a wee bit farther back, as to not spray your hand. Still, awesome!
As for how it's assembled, I'd assume the head is over the nozzle, and the plastic thingy is attached to a hinge behind the rod of the adjuster. Also, for the guys that want to know how the things are put on, hot glue and sodering guns!
Keep it comin

 

[WallCrawler3344]

Shear thickening means it thickens when it is sheared. To clarify, it thickens when it is run through a small space. However, we need a shear thinning compound, otherwise it will clog the shooter.
No, you're not a no good idiot, you just didn't understand the shearing. Your ideas are great. However, I think we are limited, and can't buy Nylon 6. Plus, that stuff can burn, bro.
I'm making my own design (WDM 2 will be posted shortly), but a nice design on your part! Great job.

Oke doke, just, like I said, a theory;P just sayin it'd make a little bit stronger.

 

[WallCrawler3344]

Also, I have this crazy idea about how to make a Spidey costume that is effective, practical, and the smallest price is $165! Lemme know, k?

 

[WallCrawler3344]

I want to defend innocents, within the limits of my possibilities...and your web shooter seems perfect...honestly, i am loosing all hopes, because i'm no good at chemistry and i'm finding problems in the building of the web shooter...this is the only thread with bright people who are very interested in this, and i'm proud of it...i think that someday, someone will find the right way of getting the shooter...

Thanks brotha! And to all of you on the thread; keep at it! This is worth it!

 

[Aracno_8000]

1.) it's fine. The valves would go on the outside, on the side opposite of the watch head. I.E. if you're looking at your wrist face up, the valve should be towards the floor

2. In my idea, I meant for it I work like a door; when the shifter pulls back, plastic pushes down on the button, like if you had a ball in a doorway, the ball would move forward if you closed the door.

3.) Yes, and if you want to get all nerdy with me, you can add two buttons and bring wires down to the nozzle, make rotors under the button, and drill different hole designs into the nozzle's different sides, so different web shapes will form. Also, as I didn't mention before, you might have to put the formula components in sepparatly, as to start the metabolizing until after shot.

As for the rest of y'all. You should know I got most of my idea from the AMAZING SPIDER MAN concept art. Check it on google images, it's awesome. I just came up with an easier way to go about it. Oh, and FYI, when I say 'adjuster' I mean the knob on the side that moves the time along for synchronizing. Got it?
Also, if anyone really cares, if the formula I typed doesnt work, then feel free to experiment with it; this is a thread, after all! I just took three things that Peter proll'y did;
1. Easy to find
2. Cheap
3. Probably works...

Keep posting. DONT give up! We're almost there!

Oh, thank You for clearing my doubts!
Then, give me some time and maybe i'll post another draw. I'm going to check how to put your explanations on paper in the best way and thanks for your compliments and your support!

For the new idea, here you are:
How about to build a bracelet involving 2 capsules containing separately the acid solution and the basic solution, and a small tube that start from this capsules and goes in the canister containing the formula?
The trigger should just open a "barrier" that will be positioned in the middle of the small tube...when the trigger will be pushed, the barrier will enable the 2 solutions meeting, and the reaction will follow up the tube inside the canister, and the formula will be pulled out from the nozzle.

Confusing? Here's the sketch. http://aracno8000.deviantart.com/art/New-idea-318996197 check it out and let me know what do you think.

 

[WallCrawler3344]

Oh, thank You for clearing my doubts!
Then, give me some time and maybe i'll post another draw. I'm going to check how to put your explanations on paper in the best way and thanks for your compliments and your support!

For the new idea, here you are:
How about to build a bracelet involving 2 capsules containing separately the acid solution and the basic solution, and a small tube that start from this capsules and goes in the canister containing the formula?
The trigger should just open a "barrier" that will be positioned in the middle of the small tube...when the trigger will be pushed, the barrier will enable the 2 solutions meeting, and the reaction will follow up the tube inside the canister, and the formula will be pulled out from the nozzle.

Confusing? Here's the sketch. http://aracno8000.deviantart.com/art/New-idea-318996197 check it out and let me know what do you think.

For the idea itself, epic bro! As for the concept of the acid and fluid mixing at once, I've been having doubts. Wouldn't it just cause the fluid to dissolve immediately? Its kinda been bothering me. Anyhow, that's just about all I have to say! Good job! And FYI, good drawing!

 

[WallCrawler3344]

I've been talkative lately... Or should I say- typetive! Hahahahahano, seriously. I'm working hard to save up to buy materials to make this. I'll post when able. By the way, if anyone's concerned, the idea of web shooters is fantastic, and basically for entertainment... Though some of us true believers will try to save lives... Screw wall crawling, spider strength and Spidey sense! Just web chumps to walls! Haters gonna hate!

 

[owlboy01]

ecscuse me but how would you get the fluid in the cartridge if it dries on air contact

 

[spidey44]

Why not just pressurize the cartridge and have one fluid?

 

[WallCrawler3344]

ecscuse me but how would you get the fluid in the cartridge if it dries on air contact

Why not put in the compounds seplaratley?

 

[MarvelFan1]

Some formulas stay a liquid because it uses a solvent to keep it a liquid. That is why a heated coil is needed to be incorporated into the shooter, so that the sovent can evaporate and the formula can harden. But for formulas that harden on contact with air, I would use a different formula, because if you use different cartridges with different parts of the formula, the the fluid lines connecting to the nozzle could get clogged, because the multiple parts of the fluid are mixing with each other in the fluid lines and will harden inside it. This is just my theory. I recommend using a formula with a solvent in ONE cartridge, and using a heated coil as part if the spinneret nozzle.

 

[cbass2272]

So... what's the formula for the webs? Or is that still to be found? Because I may have figured something out, I need 3rd party input though.

 

[MarvelFan1]

We're all working on our own formulas. I'm still trying to decide. So anything is good. Fire away cbass2272!

 

[MarvelFan1]

The formula must be a plastic, an adhesive, and a solvent. The plastic give the formula it's strength. The adhesive is a rubber and a resin. The rubber giving off elasticity and the resin must be a tackifying resin to give of better adhesion. And the solvent dissolves it all, allowing it to stay a liquid in the pressure vessel.

 

[cbass2272]

I was thinking... You could take PVA fibers, or as a liquid, and prepare either in the shooters, or off-site, a solution of calcium acetate in water, and mix that with the PVA, the PVA would become sticky enough to stick to stainless steel walls, and also elastic as rubber bands, while still in the solid state.

 

[AmazingDalton]

I don't understand why we cannot just take the same mech from the toys and minimize it and then put our fluid in

 

[cbass2272]

Because that won't traverse realistic distances! And all those use are the already pressurized aerosol can of "web fluid" (silly string) they don't add any thing to them. Just a holster.

 

[PSYLENTGuardian]

I can't imagine it'd be that simple to just miniaturize one of those and expect the webbing to work well enough.

 

[WallCrawler3344]

Dont discourage him, guys! The silly string idea was where I got my first concept! Then I was lead on to find the concept art, then I got here!

 

[MarvelFan1]

Yeah, and I think it could work with a lever and a helium valve or the valve on a whip cream can.