World Web shooter shop class

[Symbiote-Man]

Now two things, one, welcome Ultaimate Webhead, I might need some help on the lever valve, and two, white widow, don't you remember Gwen Stacy? She fell and with a stand of webbing caught, but CRACK!

 

[White_widow]

Certainly! That was one of the most important changes in Peter's life. After Ben's death, he realized that even though he was nearly invincible other's weren't. This was a not so friendly neighborhood reminder that he couldn't be cocky when the lives of those he cared about were at stake. It was also an elementary lesson in physics for parker.

 

[White_widow]

Alright. I just downloaded three pictures. One is my first cartridge, the second was my web shooter PROP, and the third was my first shooter. It's not the prototype that I'm still making, but it still works. I want to compress it further but I can't because the hose isn't actually connected.

 

[spidey44]

Where are they.

 

[White_widow]

http://technolgytheorist.deviantart.com/gallery/

Also, I got an idea. I don't like the concept of spider wearing gloves. When I was in costume for the b-day party, the one thing that I lamented was that spandex was too slippery. Trying to grasp cartridges, forget about it. Here's an idea to both make a stronger grip and the ability to hold cartridges much easier. Use a rubber glove, shred the palm with a cheese grader, and glue neodymium magnets to the fingertips. That makes it much easier to grab a cartridge, as well as a wall (assuming your doing parkour in your spidey outfit).

 

[Spectacular23]

I'd love to help with the valve send me the design and i'll work on it and keep you guys up to date. Also if you still needed to reinforce the cartridges or even the mangaverse backpack idea so they can hold more pressure I can see what I can do about that. I'll have to give thought to the type of metal for the backpack, steel could be awfully heavy

Titanium alloy. stronger than steel. Lighter than paper.

 

[White_widow]

Titanium alloy. stronger than steel. Lighter than paper.

I've already figured out that part. We are going to put refillable threaded CO2 cannisters into the bag. If that doesn't work I recommend aluminum.

 

[UltimateWebhea]

For the Valve you want it to be a solenoid valve because it can be controlled via electrical currents, but the problem is the amount of pressure it would be subjected to right?

 

[White_widow]

That's the gyst of the problem with that idea. We're going for a lever because the solenoid is difficult.

That being said, I think that I figured out how to solve the problem but it's still going on in my head. The use of neodymium magnets makes almost anything possible. The magnets are known for being so strong, they'll shatter each other when they attract eachother. They are also known for being notoriously strong at repelling. If you don't have the valve fighting pressure directly, and you use electromagnetism as well as the neodymium magnets, it should theoretically work.

 

[Spectacular23]

White Widow you mentioned before that Ben Reilly's web shooters use a piston to pump air to pressurize the webbing. How would this technique work in a real life situations. Does it have a very tiny air-intake valve? idk if it was in this thread or the webbing formula thread. But in case we an't get a pressurized vessel (Cartridge) Can we use this technique? If it's possible? Do you know the mechanics of Ben Reilly web shooters?

edit: You actually mentioned it in your website

 

[White_widow]

Yeah.., air systems was not my specialty. I'm more of a chemistry nerd, but I'll give you my best. I'm going wikipedia here so, I'm not sure how accurate this is. This is a branch of engineering called pnuematics. You can get pnuematic compressors and actuators. A compressor takes air through a fan and compresses it. Actuators increase the pressure by a factor of three. Theoretically, if you input alot of electricity you will get alot of pressure. This frees up cartridge space.

 

[Spectacular23]

Yeah.., air systems was not my specialty. I'm more of a chemistry nerd, but I'll give you my best. I'm going wikipedia here so, I'm not sure how accurate this is. This is a branch of engineering called pnuematics. You can get pnuematic compressors and actuators. A compressor takes air through a fan and compresses it. Actuators increase the pressure by a factor of three. Theoretically, if you input alot of electricity you will get alot of pressure. This frees up cartridge space.

Interesting.

 

[White_widow]

Yeah. I think so too. I'm just concerned that it wouldn't start fast enough. A little bit of fluid could be lost and since you want cartridges, that wouldn't be good.

 

[Spectacular23]

Yeah. I think so too. I'm just concerned that it wouldn't start fast enough. A little bit of fluid could be lost and since you want cartridges, that wouldn't be good.

What if the Web-shooter itself was just one big Cartridge while still using the 2012 design, that was the pneumatic system could probably work? Maybe?

 

[White_widow]

probably not. The reason I say that is because if the whole thing as a cartridge, where would one put the pneumatic pump, the actuator, or the batteries, because that kind of pressure warrants alot of electricity?

 

[White_widow]

Ok guys. This is not about web shooters. This just proves how easy it is to make a mangaverse spidey costume.

Now give him a black belt in capoeria and krav maga, then give him ninja climbing claws, and a grappling hook. He's easier to be than batman!

 

[Symbiote-Man]

Now that is cool looking. But I will stick to symbiotic suit, and a fishing wire and spike projectile.

 

[White_widow]

So, I really like this conversation, but as the movie gets closer, the forums will be more crowded. To keep the shooter shop class clean, I've created a seperate forum for you guys. This is which spidey is best.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=21169499#post21169499

 

[PeterPrkr]

I'm not really caught up on the formula or anything, but I have an idea. What if we put the formula in some sort of backpack and pipe it down the arms through flexible tubing and have a valve on the wrist operated by buttons on the palm? I could be way off, but could it work for something like a costume prop, maybe with silly string?

 

[White_widow]

Hey PeterPrkr! That is actually the design that we are springing for right now. I think that's a great idea. The only thing we have to figure out is how to pressurize it, but I've found a solution to that.

 

[Symbiote-Man]

Wow, yeah, that is what we were talking about. Pressurizing it is a problem. What is the solution, White Widow? I was just gonna put valves on PVC, or do a more small design, not involving fluid.

 

[Symbiote-Man]

I almost forgot, WELCOME TO THE COOLEST FORUM IN THE GALAXY, PeterPrkr!

 

[Symbiote-Man]

Any inexpensive small idea for the propulsion of the spike I'm using besides a rubber band?

 

[White_widow]

I'm going to get a threaded refillable Co2 cannister. They can easily be adopted. Also, it has a check valve that will naturally block the air flow until it has a set of tubes that will connect to the valve. it's very easy. as for your idea symbiote man, which is shared by spectacular23, It is actually really easy. It's a co2 cartridge. I might be able to send you a quick design but my computer is acting very slowly. if you want to get the designs, then just send me a pm.

 

[spidey44]

Could you epoxy a schrader valve onto the tank, and Also I'm not using the schrader valve anymore.