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Eze said:
What about the audience members that aren't geeks? A lot of strong, confident people relate to Superman, I don't see how exploring Clark's "geek" side = win. Unless, we're all supposed to be geeks now, maybe I'm outta step.
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Just my opinon but the old clark kent is very much an interpretation for what it meant to be a "nerd" in the past, pretty much the Steve Urkel type, goofy, trips over stuff, smart but awkward, big unlattering glasses, etc. Look at any movie from the 1950s on and you'll find the "nerd" sterotype.

I've always advocated if you wanted to updated clark kent, make him a modern geek rather than the old sterotypical nerd. He's not clumsy, tripping over everything, he's confident and intelligent, maybe a little awkward but not in an over the top way. Also instead of being the quiet guy in the corner, he's actually talkative and insightful just not in an authoritative/commanding way, like Byrne handled him.

The modern geek clark who quotes from Star Wars and Lord of Rings seems like a smart way to update the old "nerd" version while being a little more believable and providing a clear difference b/w him and Superman.

As much as some people like Byrne's clark there was simply no distinction, it was Superman out of costume. And in those comics people recognized clark all the time from his picture in the paper, so the idea that no one figured out he's Superman was just over the top. At least giving him a clearly distinct personality makes the secret id a little more believeable. LIke comparing matt damon from the Bourne movies with Matt Damon in the informant, too completely different guys, i'd never suspect were the same person despite similar facial features.

Just my thoughts.
 
Daybreak_st said:
Just my opinon but the old clark kent is very much an interpretation for what it meant to be a "nerd" in the past, pretty much the Steve Urkel type, goofy, trips over stuff, smart but awkward, big unlattering glasses, etc. Look at any movie from the 1950s on and you'll find the "nerd" sterotype.

I've always advocated if you wanted to updated clark kent, make him a modern geek rather than the old sterotypical nerd. He's not clumsy, tripping over everything, he's confident and intelligent, maybe a little awkward but not in an over the top way. Also instead of being the quiet guy in the corner, he's actually talkative and insightful just not in an authoritative/commanding way, like Byrne handled him.

The modern geek clark who quotes from Star Wars and Lord of Rings seems like a smart way to update the old "nerd" version while being a little more believable and providing a clear difference b/w him and Superman.

As much as some people like Byrne's clark there was simply no distinction, it was Superman out of costume. And in those comics people recognized clark all the time from his picture in the paper, so the idea that no one figured out he's Superman was just over the top. At least giving him a clearly distinct personality makes the secret id a little more believeable. LIke comparing matt damon from the Bourne movies with Matt Damon in the informant, too completely different guys, i'd never suspect were the same person despite similar facial features.

Just my thoughts.
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I agree completely here.
 
I didnt like that they messed with his Height in this. I'm 5'8 and really a 6 foot guy is big to me but Superman needs to be that 6'6 kinda guy, and completely jacked to go along with that. Clark hunches and thats part of the disguise so this was kinda annoying to me and he seemed to skinny aswell. Compared to The Searck for Kryptonite this was not Shane's best work. I blame the colorist though.
 
Super-man is 6'3" according to the last data I saw.. he's an inch shorter than me.
 
i like superman being 6'2-6'3, it's tall without being really tall. i also like him being a little bit slimmer than he tends to be portrayed, i think welling has about the right build for superman, he just can't act :oldrazz:

i'm still kinda curious to read this, think i'll wait a bit longer though
 
Finally bought and read this last night. I've heard a lot of people complaining about the re-imagining of the story, and changing his height, his dress, who "revealed" Supes in the DP first, etc.

I LOVED this book.

Listen, we all know that Superman has a history. There's one, real Superman story. These books aren't going to change that. I didn't hear anybody complaining about Abe Lincoln: Vampire Hunter. It's a fictional take on a historical figure. That's how I look at Superman.

I dig people taking creative license and changing things up within the history of a character. The mopey "I don't wanna be a hero" was a little much for me, as Superman has always been a happy, inspirational figure in my mind. Still, I thought the art was awesome, the dialogue was good, and the overall story and flashbacks were perfect.

I'm looking forward to the next, for sure.
 
Hush said:
I didnt like that they messed with his Height in this. I'm 5'8 and really a 6 foot guy is big to me but Superman needs to be that 6'6 kinda guy, and completely jacked to go along with that. Clark hunches and thats part of the disguise so this was kinda annoying to me and he seemed to skinny aswell. Compared to The Searck for Kryptonite this was not Shane's best work. I blame the colorist though.
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That's like the Rock pretending to be some mild mannered whimpy guy in a suit when he's clearly 230 and 6'6. It's just silly on so many levels.
 
Daybreak_st said:
That's like the Rock pretending to be some mild mannered whimpy guy in a suit when he's clearly 230 and 6'6. It's just silly on so many levels.
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The thing is...it's really not all that silly on so many levels. I think people underestimate how easy it is to disguise yourself, especially when your disguise relies just as much on not being noticed as literally disguising your features.
 
Superman Earth One was a dreadfull emo version of the 'Lois & Clark' pilot. Didn't like the writing or the art. I'm not a Birthright fan but even that was better than Secret Origins and this garbage. Somewhat flawed MOS still remains the best. Season 1 of 'Lois & Clark' probably is still the best origin overall for Superman.
 
DrMylesOBoogie said:
Superman Earth One was a dreadfull emo version of the 'Lois & Clark' pilot.
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Again with that word, name one thing associated with this book that was remotely "emo" that wasn't a review written by a 60-year-old who assumes anything involving a young character that isn't a frat member or Jonah Hill is "a hipster emo Twilight rendition for the kids these days with their tweetin' twitters and their skinny jeans!"
 
HighFivingMF said:
Again with that word, name one thing associated with this book that was remotely "emo" that wasn't a review written by a 60-year-old who assumes anything involving a young character that isn't a frat member or Jonah Hill is "a hipster emo Twilight rendition for the kids these days with their tweetin' twitters and their skinny jeans!"
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"Emo has been associated with a stereotype that includes being particularly emotional, sensitive, shy, introverted, or angst-ridden." For me that description fits the tone of this book perfectly and DiDidio even came out and said that's what they were aiming for.

Funny thing about this being branded as DC's version of Ultimate is that DC did Ultimate long before Marvel with MOS and Batman Year One and stand up to this day. Earth 1 won't have the longevity they've had and will date faster than a speeding bullet.
 
HighFivingMF said:
Again with that word, name one thing associated with this book that was remotely "emo" that wasn't a review written by a 60-year-old who assumes anything involving a young character that isn't a frat member or Jonah Hill is "a hipster emo Twilight rendition for the kids these days with their tweetin' twitters and their skinny jeans!"
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I'm with you. Nothing close to emo in this book. Just because he is young and unsure about his path makes him emo? Give me a break.
 
No, he is young unsure about his path and is clearly in a league all on its own as far as his abilities and pretty much is depicted here as a whiny guy. He may not be a full on emo ***** but he most certainly is a hipster which is just as bad. This is Clark Kent, raised on a farm and with good manners to boot. He is a man that none of us can hope to reach in Earth One he is clearly a watered down insecure individual that is really not in anyway a "different take" more like a different character that I would never associate with Superman. Yes it is safe to assume that right after he got to Metropolis he had some doubts but he dealt with them like a grown ass man and didnt lead on several fields in hopes that they had the next "BIG THING", so i can see why people would see him as emo/hipster its just not Superman really.
 
How exactly was Superman a hipster in this book?
 
I got that vibe, so really TO ME he was a Hipsterish character to me. Plus how he was dressed in the end of the book gave me that feeling.
 
DrMylesOBoogie said:
Funny thing about this being branded as DC's version of Ultimate is that DC did Ultimate long before Marvel with MOS and Batman Year One and stand up to this day. Earth 1 won't have the longevity they've had and will date faster than a speeding bullet.
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It's not the same thing really. Stuff like that came out of an out and out reboot of the mainstream universe, this is a separate universe that'll run while the main universe goes, based on this hypothetical idea of what if these characters were literally created today. It's pretty much a copy and paste of what Marvel did with the Ultimate Universe concept.
 
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