What DC should learn from Marvel

[JamesBond-007]

another thing dc shoulf learn from marvel is to remember quality over quantity

Marvel do seem to be pumping them out at a hell of a speed though.

 

[Changeling]

Yeah^

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

Personally i think DC is doing things better than Marvel.When Marvel makes movies,they are dissapointments.Only Spider-Man tens to be good,but DC takes its time..perhaps too much to make great films,like Batman Begins.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Never trust Avi Arad

 

[3dman27]

i agrre with not adding in too many things outside the comics i don't mind the occaisional supporting characters that are original to the movie[rachel dawes for example] but don't overdo it

 

[Damiean Dark]

WB wont make movies based on characters like flash and GL because they know they will tank in terms of profits. To make a credible GL movie (which would be the most special effects led movie of these imo) they would need to spend at least 100 million and they wont do it, its clear they have no faith in any of thier characters save the bats and supes movies and the public can only take so much from these two before they get bored.

 

[3dman27]

yeah whats with that aynway ?
dc has more heroes than robby reeds H-DIAL and they don't want to use them

 

[Damiean Dark]

They have many heroes but they dont have many INTERESTING heroes.

 

[KenK]

Personally i think DC is doing things better than Marvel.When Marvel makes movies,they are dissapointments.

Gee, that's not a broad generalization!

Only Spider-Man tens to be good,but DC takes its time..perhaps too much to make great films,like Batman Begins.

Okay, that's ONE film. For all the time and effort they put into Superman Returns, all we had to show for it was a rehash of the 1978 film. And by virtue of the passage of time, SR had even flimsier narrative logic!

 

[kedrell]

It's quite simple, if Marvel is truly successful with their bid to have their own successful independant studio, then DC would be wise to break off from WB and do likewise.

 

[GL's Light]

They have many heroes but they dont have many INTERESTING heroes.

That's your opinion, and it's one I disagree with. I'm guessing your fandom is heavily tilted towards Marvel.

 

[REDophile]

WB wont make movies based on characters like flash and GL because they know they will tank in terms of profits. To make a credible GL movie (which would be the most special effects led movie of these imo) they would need to spend at least 100 million and they wont do it, its clear they have no faith in any of thier characters save the bats and supes movies and the public can only take so much from these two before they get bored.

So instead of a blockbuster DC superhero movie, we see these Vertigo graphic novels that most average movie-goers have no idea are based on comics. This is very poor marketing and exposure for DC characters, but it makes more sense for WB because.....
A) Projects like Constantine or V for Vendetta are much cheaper to produce than the traditional spandex superheroes. From a previous thread, I remember someone found out that V for V only cost around $50 million, and a WW, Flash or GL movie would probably be $100-200 mil. at the least. For the WB's money, its a safer bet to spend the big bucks on Harry Potter.
B) Its probably a lot easier to write a script for a graphic novel adaptation because there is less material you have to condense into one draft. One example is that there have been so many different incarnations of WW, Flash and GL from over 50 years, while there are only about ten issues of the V for V series. So there isn't any argument over how campy or dark the graphic novels should be on screen, they are what they are.
C) The Vertigo material doesn't require as much marketing, because you know right away that its not geared towards a blockbuster audience. In contrast, the more popular DC superheroes would need a big-budget action figure, 7-11 slurpee, Burger King/McDonald's Happy Meal marketing campaign. Its just more work for WB.
But at the same time, if WB is so protective of the DC comics properties, they ought to be doing more to get them on the screen. Find a replacement WW director! Shawn Levy isn't doing anything else right now, is he?? So get him working on the Flash already so he can prove he's more than just a kiddie comedy director....

 

[Damiean Dark]

At the end of the day it comes down to money if WB had faith in thier characters they would put up the money simple as that.

 

[GL's Light]

At the end of the day it comes down to money if WB had faith in thier characters they would put up the money simple as that.

Nope. If they didn't have faith in the characters they wouldn't bother spending time and money developing them as film projects. Marvel is an independent company with a business strategy focused on making as many superhero films as quickly as possible. DC is part of Time Warner, and given the broad range of WB's film slate they obviously don't need to rush out a bunch of superhero films simultaneously if it doesn't suit their purposes. There will eventually be film versions of Green Lantern, Flash, etc, but Warners will make them when they see fit and not based on the timetable of fanboys who see this as a short-term Marvel vs DC race.

 

[Damiean Dark]

No i disagree its all about money people constantly delude themselfs that companies care about their characters they dont its about how much money can be made for the least amount of money the fundermental foundations of all BUSINESSES which is what WB marvel, DC are. WB/DC have waited 29 years and counting from thier first sucessful hero flick (superman) and in all that time and with all the heros available all they have produced is a further 7 movies all based on 2 characters (batman/superman) and you think its because they want to take loving care to make the perfect movie? thats bull if they had real faith they would have made at least a couple more flicks in such a massive time period.

 

[GL's Light]

No i disagree its all about money people constantly delude themselfs that companies care about their characters they dont its about how much money can be made for the least amount of money the fundermental foundations of all BUSINESSES which is what WB marvel, DC are. WB/DC have waited 29 years and counting from thier first sucessful hero flick (superman) and in all that time and with all the heros available all they have produced is a further 7 movies all based on 2 characters (batman/superman) and you think its because they want to take loving care to make the perfect movie? thats bull if they had real faith they would have made at least a couple more flicks in such a massive time period.

Yes, it's all about business, and in that sense they'll utilize DC properties when they see fit to further their business interests. It's not necessarily in their business interests to rush out a bunch of superhero films in a short time, especially since they've been commercially burned on making some crappy choices with superhero films in the past. Taking their time and seeing how these films can best fit into their slate of films and trying to get strong scripts together is in their commercial interests. The bottom line is: they wouldn't spend development money on characters they didn't have faith in.

Besides what does the lack of big budget Marvel films prior to 2000 say about their properties? Do you think that studios had no faith in Marvel characters for decades and decades before that point? Does that mean that they thought Marvel characters were lousy? How do you reconcile that?