what do you think of Spiderman's rogues?

[GoldenAgeHero]

i think a good handful of them suck arse, none of them have any personality.
if you guys can ravmp them what would you do?

 

[Red Mask]

Many of them were made when the genre was moving into a new phase. But some of the classics have pretty cool powers. And they should be quirky because the protagonist is Spider-Man. I wouldn't make them too grim because it ruins the flavor. Kevin Smith has created a new Mysterio. But he gave reasons why the costume stays the same.

 

[deemar325]

Scorpion

I'd go back to basics with him and smarten him up, and darken his costume colors.

Also he'd work alone and become more professional like Bullseye or TaskMaster.

 

[Darthphere]

Scorpion

I'd go back to basics with him and smarten him up, and darken his costume colors.

Also he'd work alone and become more professional like Bullseye or TaskMaster.

Give the Symbiote back to Eddie Brock.

Chameleon single handedly one of the mot dangerous of his villains, needs a huge showing.

Electro-Take him away from bednis *****fied version.

Shocker-He's cool, make him cooler.

Dont have Norman Osborn show up in a PSidey comic for the next 5 years.

 

[KevanG]

Things I'd like to see but more than likely never will:
1) NO MORE CLONES!!!
2) Stop killing Aunt May!!!
3) Let him have just ONE arc where he isn't having **** tossed at him at every turn.
4) Kill ALL the Osbornes (except Ozzy ) and never bring them back.
5) Wolverine stops being a Marvel ****e.

 

[Vanguard07]

I think Electro is the single biggest ****** in all of marvel. HE CONTROLS ELECTRICITY!!! He's so freakin powerful and yet all he does is blow up armored cars and get beaten with well placed buckets of water.
If he had a little imagination he could be as powerful as Magneto at least.
The fact that he's a Spiderman villain rather than a world class threat is a huge dissappointment.

I say give the guy an education. Teach him a thing or two about the applications of electricity. Partner him up with Graviton and let him loose on the world.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

i think a good handful of them suck arse, none of them have any personality.
if you guys can ravmp them what would you do?

Why do people start threads like this with sweeping generalizations?

Personally, I love losers like Electro. Yes, he's one of the most powerful villains ever, but the fact that he's too dumb to realize it is one of the things I like about him. If Doc Ock got Electro's powers, he'd be fodder for the likes of Thor or the Hulk. But Electro got them and he's a moron, so he gets to stay in Spider-Man's weight class.

If I could revamp one Spidey rogue, it'd probably be Black Tarantula. For a guy with so much build-up and so much power, he turned tail and vanished into the night pretty quickly. Bring him back, make him a credible threat to Spider-Man for more than just Spidey's friend being the mother of his child, and let him loose.

 

[Harlekin]

Like Corpy said, I wouldn't mind a Black Tarantula comeback. That character was a plain and simple badass, and had a real potential to be the anti-Spider-Man that Venom used to be. His beating of Pete was pretty thorough and it was good to see our hero have to go all Rocky-ish again. Heck, Black Tarantula could've been the new Green Goblin, but in a good way.

For years and years people always named the Goblin when it came to Spidey's archnemesis. Until he came back. That completely and utterly ruined every hope for the Green Goblin afterwards as he became involved in every little inane thing that messed with Parker's life. The guy needs to die already, and stay dead.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'd love to see Digger come back, too. I thought he was great. Really, I think a lot of Spider-Man's more recent villains, with some retooling in some cases, could be great.

 

[Harlekin]

Exactly. I'm not saying we ditch the old, but a little new blood is great.

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

Why do people start threads like this with sweeping generalizations?

Personally, I love losers like Electro. Yes, he's one of the most powerful villains ever, but the fact that he's too dumb to realize it is one of the things I like about him. If Doc Ock got Electro's powers, he'd be fodder for the likes of Thor or the Hulk. But Electro got them and he's a moron, so he gets to stay in Spider-Man's weight class.

If I could revamp one Spidey rogue, it'd probably be Black Tarantula. For a guy with so much build-up and so much power, he turned tail and vanished into the night pretty quickly. Bring him back, make him a credible threat to Spider-Man for more than just Spidey's friend being the mother of his child, and let him loose.

how is it a sweeping genralizaion, a hnadful of his rogues do suck. its more of my opinion really. the electro thing doesnt work for me, either have him get better or just kill him off.no need to keep a moron a villain if he's gonna get his arse handed to him for over 40 years. at least with batman's or theflash's rogues they have some badassery to them but electro doesnt cut it.

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

too much emphasis has been put on few characters and the rest are just merely cannon fodder now.

even if they are taken seriously, it's only for a few arcs then they either die or revert back to cannon fodder.

taking all of them into consideration, i think he gets an easy ride in comparison to some other rogue galleries.

 

[The Question]

Like Corpy said, I wouldn't mind a Black Tarantula comeback. That character was a plain and simple badass, and had a real potential to be the anti-Spider-Man that Venom used to be. His beating of Pete was pretty thorough and it was good to see our hero have to go all Rocky-ish again. Heck, Black Tarantula could've been the new Green Goblin, but in a good way.

For years and years people always named the Goblin when it came to Spidey's archnemesis. Until he came back. That completely and utterly ruined every hope for the Green Goblin afterwards as he became involved in every little inane thing that messed with Parker's life. The guy needs to die already, and stay dead.

My idea for taking over Spider-Man's line would basically have Spidey finding that Norman does have baby May held somewhere, fighting him, accd\identally killing him, and saving his kid. Then, he finds out that the May who's been licing with him isn't actually May. The whole "Payed a genetically altered actress thing" was complete bull****. The May we've seen over the past few years is a VERY convincing clone. A clone who's designed to self terminate in the event of Norman's death. One last screw over of Parker's life by Norman. I would then move on to give more atention to villains like The Vulture and Dr. Octopus.

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

black tarantula is too hardcore to come back, keep him well away.

If he comes back he'll be easier to take on both mentally and physically and his present will ruin the beat downs he gave to spidey back in the day...



keep him well away, those beatdowns are amongst the worst parker has ever received, the first is arguably his worst.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Black Tarantula doesn't have to physically fight Pete. He's a genius in addition to being able to kick Spider-Man's ass up and down any street. Have him take over Norman's role as the behind-the-scenes manipulator. Then, only after Spider-Man foils a bunch of his plans would he ever actually go out and physically try to stomp Peter. By then, Peter could've pieced together the clues and realized who the new crimelord in town was, and he could find some way to be ready for him.

It just bugs me that Marvel keeps ditching the newbies and falling back on Norman "old reliable" Osborn or Doc Ock or one of the other imminently recognizable villains. The only way they became classic villains in the first place was through repeat appearances. If Doc Ock were thrown away after the first time he fought Spider-Man, like so many of the new villains are, none of us would've heard of him.

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

the thing is that spidey does know who black tarantula is, not identity wise but he knows how to get to him...

also you say BT would 'try' to stomp peter, surely there would be no need for trying, he would simply do it, the way he was portrayed before shows pete is really no match for him.

the thing about ock and goblin is that they grew with the character, it's different to try and make a new villain established with a hero that already has decades of history.

the main people to blame are the fans for eating it up all the time when they bring back all classic villains from the dead and so forth...

if we didn't keep eating it up, they would stop doing it. (hopefully)

 

[TheCorpulent1]

The only way new characters will grow is if they're actually used instead of discarded after their first appearance.

Black Tarantula could beat the crap out of Peter easily, but I also said Peter could call in help or otherwise use that big brain of his to stop Black Tarantula some other way. Other heroes beat their physical superiors all the time. In fact, Peter's made a name for himself doing so.

 

[Soundwave]

I would like to see Electro portrayed like he was in the 90's animated series: a total weapon of mass destruction!

 

[The Question]

It would be interesting for Max to get an inteligence upgrade of some kind and acrually learn a thing or two about physics. If he did that, he'd be one of the dangerous villains around.

 

[Darthphere]

It would be interesting for Max to get an inteligence upgrade of some kind and acrually learn a thing or two about physics. If he did that, he'd be one of the dangerous villains around.

He should take Peter Parker's class....

 

[rigel7soldiers]

I love Spider-Man's rogues. Particularly the ones who get no damn respect. Like Boomerang; In the Ultimate Spider-Man game, he is the only villain who is not a boss character.
Really, anybody in the Sinister Syndicate. Shocker is a great character, especially currently, snce at this point all he wants is one big score to retire on.
The Hobgoblin... do you know something? I used to think Bart Hamilton was the Hobgoblin. Then, I thought it was Flash Thompson, then Ned Leeds, then Jason Macendale, and apparently it was Roderick Kingsley the whole time. Weird how that worked out.

 

[GNR]

They were handled pretty well in Ultimate Six.

 

[The Overlord]

It would be interesting for Max to get an inteligence upgrade of some kind and acrually learn a thing or two about physics. If he did that, he'd be one of the dangerous villains around.

Electro has to be stupid though, if he was smart he would kill Spider-Man easily. Frankly him being stupid is the only he makes sense as criminal, with his powers he could solve the world's enegry crisis in a second and then make billions legitimately, he can't see that because he's too stupid.

 

[jaydawg]

Wow. Aside from Corp, none of you understand Spider-man's villains. There is a reason why Electro holds so much back. Its because he has an inferiorty complex. Which easily makes him one of the most interesting rogues in comics. Read "Light the Night." Its a brilliant JM DeMattis story explaining why Electro is like this. He's a loveable loser. Besides, even with that mentality, he's still quite the threat. Ever read that issue where he took on She-Hulk? Hell, look at MKSM.

Bendis just doesnt understand characters he didnt create. Look at his 616 Electro and his ult. Electro. Two completely different characters. You want to see a total badass (albeit generic) Electro? Read some USM. You want to read about a classic, interesting character? Stick with the 616 interpertation.

And frankly, what would killing Norman, again, accomplish? Nothing at all. Here's an idea: just have him stay out of the comics for a while! And Question, sorry man, but your idea sounds worse than the genetically altered actress. May is back and shes become more of a character than ever. Let her be.

If theres one character at all that needs a revamp (and honestly, few Spider rogues do) its the Vulture. He has class 10 strenght. When was the last time you saw him use it?

 

[Harlekin]

Wow. Aside from Corp, none of you understand Spider-man's villains.

Thanks...