"What If...?" Comic Book Crossovers.

[Vanguard07]

Thor would do at least as well as Maxima did. He'll give as good as he gets, but in the end he'll lose. Maybe not die, but lose.

Personally I think that a Thor/Doomsday fight would escalate to the point of Godblast and I just dont see DD surviving a straight up Godblast.

 

[Thundarr]

Personally I think that a Thor/Doomsday fight would escalate to the point of Godblast and I just dont see DD surviving a straight up Godblast.

Maybe he would, maybe he wouldn't. But even if he doesn't, he'd only be "dead" temperarily. When he comes back, Thor will try the Godblast again and be quite shocked to see Doomsday just walk right through it.

 

[Vanguard07]

If it was possible for him to come back from that. Even if it was it's irrelevant as Thor would have already won the fight and any rematch would be an entirely separate issue.

I'm inclined to believe though that a Godblast would leave nothing of Doomsday to come back with. No soul, no essence, nothing. Also from my understanding his resurrection ability is a sort of forced evolutionary trait.... so science. A godblast is exactly the kind of high level magic that trumps science.

 

[Sawyer]

Doctor Who/Booster Gold. Nuff said.

 

[Sawyer]

Also...

Green Lantern/Star Trek or GL/Star Wars
Buffy the Vampire Slayer/Spider-Man

 

[jewmaican20]

Well, I enjoyed the Archie/Punisher crossover, so I'd be up for a reprise of that.

But I would love a scenario where Marc Spector comes to Gotham and starts punishing folks in a severely brutal fashion. The Batman - thinking he's another crazy like Jean Paul Valley - shows up and tells him to get in line, or get out. Fisticuffs ensue.

Alternately, what if Bruce Wayne believed he was the avatar for Khonshu?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

If it was possible for him to come back from that. Even if it was it's irrelevant as Thor would have already won the fight and any rematch would be an entirely separate issue.

I'm inclined to believe though that a Godblast would leave nothing of Doomsday to come back with. No soul, no essence, nothing. Also from my understanding his resurrection ability is a sort of forced evolutionary trait.... so science. A godblast is exactly the kind of high level magic that trumps science.

Doomsday survived the Omega Beams which can erase ANYTHING from existence, so I doubt a Godblast would fare much better. Doomsday got straight back up from the Omega Beams and almost killed Darkseid, yes you heard that right DARKSEID almost died by Doomsday's hands. Thor wouldnt stand a chance.

 

[Vanguard07]

Doomsday survived the Omega Beams which can erase ANYTHING from existence, so I doubt a Godblast would fare much better. Doomsday got straight back up from the Omega Beams and almost killed Darkseid, yes you heard that right DARKSEID almost died by Doomsday's hands. Thor wouldnt stand a chance.

Seems to me like they've been progressively nerfing Darkseid more and more lately though. I mean Batman can fight him these days so really that argument doesn't hold much water IMO.

I still hold to my belief that Thor would take the first fight if they met... a rematch, if it happened, he'd need help for.

 

[Andy C.]

Yeah, Darkseid got pretty watered down over the last couple of years. Which is why I'm rather glad Final Crisis is trying to make him holy-**** scary again.

Anyway, I'd personally love to see how Dr. Doom and Lex Luthor would manage against each other.

 

[3dman27]

Well, I enjoyed the Archie/Punisher crossover, so I'd be up for a reprise of that.

how about a reprise of the archie -tmnt crossover

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

Honestly man, I think Thor could handle Doomsday all on his own, if Supes can defeat him.

Agreed.

 

[Shawkur]

One of the many scenarios I play in my head alot is the concept of a fused universe between Marvel and DC. I try, to the best of my comic book knowledge which isnt all that formidable, look at it from a controlled, historical standpoint opposed to the wildly imaginative "Anything goes" view that probably most fans who would bother to consider such trivial matters would probably take where I see almost all of the truely MAJOR fictional events still taking place along with many of the more minor details as well while also taking real world events into perspective in a unrealistic-realistic balance.

I see the Timely/Atlas/Marvel universe sort of fitting into the folds of DC Universe in alot of ways only because DC seemed to break alot of ground early such as inventing what is widely considered the first full-fledged superheroes with Superman and Batman as well as the first superteams of both the golden and silver ages with the JSA and JLA respectively. Ofcourse, once the "Marvel Age of Comics" took place Marvel gained atleast equal footing in the industry as far as innovation and fandom goes.

A few random thoughts:
-The original Human Torch and the Submariner would have probably been charter members of the JSA. Captain America would likiely be a shoe-in as well once he made his debut, perhaps as the appointed leader during the peroid where the JSA placed itself under the auspices of the United States War Department as the Justice Battalion? A few other Timely heroes would likely also gain JSA membership such as the Angel, Vision, and Miss America who actually had pretty long print runs in the Golden Age along with other characters who garnered enhanced status retroactively during the late 60's to mid 90's.

Other Golden Age and retroactive Golden Age groups such as the Seven Soldies, All-Winner Squad, Invaders, Liberty Legion, and the All-Star Squadron would still have taken place with varied line-ups.

-I envision the JLA still forming with maybe some of the Timely/Atlas/early Marvel characters also as charter members, followed by the Fantastic Four who probably have many early team-ups with the Justice League, and the Avengers also coming into fruition as a second superhero collective in such a massive universe would seem likely.

-I see Spider-Man and Johnny Stomy being atleast honorary, if not charter members, of the Teen Titans. I think they would be viewed with respect by many of the Titans as the first major solo teen hero and first "equal" partner in a adult super-team respectively. The Titans would also have countless crossovers with fellow teen group the X-Men and would count many former members the original X-Men, New Mutants, Generation X, and other young mutants along the various Titan line-ups as well.

-Speaking of the X-Men, many DC characters were originally described as mutants before the advent of the "blanket term" metahuman used to describe basically every super-powered character in the DCU such as Captain Comet, Brainwave, Mammoth and Shimmer, ect. I also see other fully human character with "inherited" powers such as Jade, Obsidian, Atom-Smasher, Fire, Airwave III, Brainwave Jr., ect as being considered mutants and perhaps taking part in various mutant groups.

 

[jewmaican20]

how about a reprise of the archie -tmnt crossover

Which reminds me of the TMNT/ Savage Dragon team up...
Good stuff!

But here's the thing: at the end of Punisher Meets Archie, they do a teaser where Wolverine is meant to track down a Jughead lookalike. Where would that go?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Seems to me like they've been progressively nerfing Darkseid more and more lately though. I mean Batman can fight him these days so really that argument doesn't hold much water IMO.

I still hold to my belief that Thor would take the first fight if they met... a rematch, if it happened, he'd need help for.

This was the Darkseid from like, 10-12 years ago though, not the one of 'these days,' who to my knowledge was still pretty damn powerful back then. And his Omega Beams have NEVER become less powerful, NOT when he uses them full blast as he did on Doomsday.

Doomsday would just rip Thor apart, Thor can barely even beat Hulk, if at all and Doomsday would rip Hulk apart (and I am a BIG Hulk fan).

Believe me, seeing the things Doomsday has done, very few heroes in The Marvel Universe would stand a chance against him.

 

[Vanguard07]

To be fair Thor is THE most powerful superhero in Marvel. He has trouble with Hulk because of a combination of bad writing and Thor's own sense of fairplay.

I agree that Doomsday would beat Hulk but I still dont think he could take Thor.

Like with anything it all depends on the circumstances though.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

To be fair Thor is THE most powerful superhero in Marvel. He has trouble with Hulk because of a combination of bad writing and Thor's own sense of fairplay.

I agree that Doomsday would beat Hulk but I still dont think he could take Thor.

Like with anything it all depends on the circumstances though.

So Thor is more powerful than Silver Surfer and The Sentry? I highly doubt it personally. Not to mention Ghost Rider is more powerful than Thor also IMO. Strange even commented that The Ghost Rider has almost limitless power.

Doomsday also killed the man who trained Darkseid in hand-to-hand combat, this man had NEVER suffered a defeat in single combat, he lasted mere SECONDS with Doomsday. Look, this looks like it is just a matter of opinion. But I will say, that I am 100% confident that Doomsday would wipe the floor with Thor.

Hey, I made a rhyme t:.

 

[Obi-Ron]

How about Adam Warren's "Empowered" teaming up with "Black Queen" era Jean Grey...yeah, that would sell some copies.

 

[Thundarr]

Doomsday survived the Omega Beams which can erase ANYTHING from existence, so I doubt a Godblast would fare much better. Doomsday got straight back up from the Omega Beams and almost killed Darkseid, yes you heard that right DARKSEID almost died by Doomsday's hands. Thor wouldnt stand a chance.

Very good point. Though I must admit a bit of ignorance of the power of Godblast (I've read very few Thor comics and this is the first I've ever heard of that power), I'd have to point out that the writers likely wouldn't let a Godblast kill Superman in a "Thor vs Superman" scenario. And Doomsday can survive anything Superman can (let's not forget that the scientists who created Doomsday were Kryptonian).

I'd also like to point out that Hulk defeated Thor (and virtually every other superhero in the Marvel Universe) virtually single handed in World War Hulk. And Thor was defeated by Red Hulk, who in turn was defeated by The Hulk. So what does that tell you about his chances of defeating The Hulk?

I think the only hero in the entire Marvel Universe that has any chance at all of defeating Doomsday is The Hulk. The harder Doomsday hits him, the madder he gets. The madder he gets, the stronger he gets. The stronger he gets, the harder he hits Doomsday back. The only other superhero from the Marvel Universe that has any chance against Doomsday is The Sentry (if he can overcome his agoraphobia enough to leave his house and fight Doomsday).

 

[Thundarr]

BUFFY VS FREDDY

The story would take place during Season 2 of the show, sometime between the episodes Ted and Surprise. That means Angel hasn't turned evil yet and Miss Calendar is still alive. Miss Calendar is taking the students on a field trip over the weekend. Buffy doesn't want to go, but Principal Snyder is making the trip manditory. Fail to go on the trip, fail the class. Angel assures her that he'll keep the demon population under control while she's gone. Giles accompany's Miss Calendar on the field trip to help her in her chaperoning duties (as well as to work on their budding romance). The bus breaks down in, of all places, Springwood. The students all fall asleep on the bus, and all end up dreaming about Freddy. Most don't think much of it, just another nightmare, but Buffy and the rest of the Scoobies get a paranormal vibe from them. Unfortunately being so far from the library, Giles isn't much help. Luckily, Miss Calendar is a technopagan and Willow is a wiz on the net. They manage to get the scoop on Kreuger, unfortunately not befor at least one student on the bus dies. They come up with a plan to beat Freddy. Some more kids die. Buffy teaches Freddy not to mess with a Slayer. Freddy's defeated. The book ends with a "I'm beaten but not defeated" ending (something that hints Freddy's coming back).

BUFFY VS JASON

This story takes place during the summer between Seasons 4 and 5. Buffy and Riley head off to the woods for a romantic camping trip, just the two of them. They end up going to Chrystal Lake. They meet up with a bunch of other young couples who all have similar plans. They agree to share a campsite. Jason comes along and starts killing them off one or two at a time. Finally it's down to just Buffy and Riley. Jason takes a beating as only The Slayer can deliver. Buffy and Riley leave for home believing that they'd just rid Chrystal Lake of its undead menace. The book ends with a scene showing us that's just not the case.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Very good point. Though I must admit a bit of ignorance of the power of Godblast (I've read very few Thor comics and this is the first I've ever heard of that power), I'd have to point out that the writers likely wouldn't let a Godblast kill Superman in a "Thor vs Superman" scenario. And Doomsday can survive anything Superman can (let's not forget that the scientists who created Doomsday were Kryptonian).

I'd also like to point out that Hulk defeated Thor (and virtually every other superhero in the Marvel Universe) virtually single handed in World War Hulk. And Thor was defeated by Red Hulk, who in turn was defeated by The Hulk. So what does that tell you about his chances of defeating The Hulk?

I think the only hero in the entire Marvel Universe that has any chance at all of defeating Doomsday is The Hulk. The harder Doomsday hits him, the madder he gets. The madder he gets, the stronger he gets. The stronger he gets, the harder he hits Doomsday back. The only other superhero from the Marvel Universe that has any chance against Doomsday is Worldkiller (if he can overcome his agoraphobia enough to leave his house and fight Doomsday).

Excellent points, Thor wouldnt last long with Doomsday IMO, and neither, for that matter would Hulk. Doomsday wouldnt give him the chance to reach an appropriate strength level and would knock him out/kill him before Hulk could ever get angry enough. If Abomination can do that, then Doomsday would do it even faster.

Silver Surfer vs Doomsday would bge very interesting though.

 

[Thundarr]

Excellent points, Thor wouldnt last long with Doomsday IMO, and neither, for that matter would Hulk. Doomsday wouldnt give him the chance to reach an appropriate strength level and would knock him out/kill him before Hulk could ever get angry enough. If Abomination can do that, then Doomsday would do it even faster.

Silver Surfer vs Doomsday would bge very interesting though.

Thor would put up a good fight, but no he wouldn't last too long against Doomsday. He'd probably last about one full comic issues worth. I disagree with you about The Hulk being defeated by Doomsday though. I think that fight between Hulk and Abomination you're referring to happened early on in the series. Hulk is now much more powerful than he was back in the day. Again I point out that Red Hulk killed Abomination (something The Hulk never succeeded in doing), but was defeated by The Hulk. Also, I think The Hulk is now roughly equal in strength and invulnerability to Superman. And again, the madder Hulk gets the tougher he becomes to kill.

Silver Surfer vs Doomsday? Silver Surfer got eaten in Marvel Zombies, so how well would he do against Doomsday? Like Thor, I think he'd put up one hell of a fight, but it would end badly for him and quickly too.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Thor would put up a good fight, but no he wouldn't last too long against Doomsday. He'd probably last about one full comic issues worth. I disagree with you about The Hulk being defeated by Doomsday though. I think that fight between Hulk and Abomination you're referring to happened early on in the series. Hulk is now much more powerful than he was back in the day. Again I point out that Red Hulk killed Abomination (something The Hulk never succeeded in doing), but was defeated by The Hulk. Also, I think The Hulk is now roughly equal in strength and invulnerability to Superman. And again, the madder Hulk gets the tougher he becomes to kill.

What Abom did still happened though, and The Juggernaut has done the same, Doomsday would murder Abom and Juggernaut so Hulk wouldnt get a level of strength in time to threaten him. And, personally, I still dont hink Hulk's strength level is at Superman's level, Superman has moved planets, Hulk hasnt done anything remotely that powerful IMO.

Silver Surfer vs Doomsday? Silver Surfer got eaten in Marvel Zombies, so how well would he do against Doomsday? Like Thor, I think he'd put up one hell of a fight, but it would end badly for him and quickly too.

Hulk has never beaten The Silver Surfer, so if you think Hulk stands a chance then SS definately does, SS is more powerful than Superman in my book also so he would give Doomsday a great fight.

 

[Thundarr]

Hulk has never beaten The Silver Surfer, so if you think Hulk stands a chance then SS definately does, SS is more powerful than Superman in my book also so he would give Doomsday a great fight.

Hulk was one of the superheroes who ate Silver Surfer in Marvel Zombies. So in that universe, yeah he did beat him.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Hulk was one of the superheroes who ate Silver Surfer in Marvel Zombies. So in that universe, yeah he did beat him.

That was an else-worlds story thought wasnt it? In Marvel 616, I dont think Hulk has ever beaten the Surfer. Superman wouldnt beat SS either IMO.

 

[3dman27]

elseworlds are DC what iff..' are marvel