What if Tim Burton Continued with Batman Forever and Batman & Robin

[Rebel]

Why would they? They did two films moved on. ^

They would if they were asked about it. I'm suprised nobody has asked about them possibly returning for atleast one more 'cause so many fans would love that.

Nolan's vision will be over in 2012. That makes room for like a Batman Beyond film where Keaton as Bruce is the old mentor with a new younger Batman in the forefront. A cameo by Michelle Pfeiffer would be cool as their was no resolution whatsoever to their tragic relationship from Returns. This could totaly work and could give Burton/Keaton a chance to do a third version of their vision of Batman and pretend those crappy Shumacher films never happened- ala Superman Returns.

 

[Two-Face]

Yes Nolan's franchise will be over but I rather see young Bruce WAyne as Batman than Beyond. Burton's vision IS ust his vision so Beyond will be a different route than Burton. Burton did his vision but animated movie would be wise move to show what would've Burton done.

 

[Catman]

Nolan's franchise? Nolan is the current director, but it's not HIS franchise. WB isn't gonna stop after three movies. They'll simply do a 4th with another director and offer Christian Bale a lot of money to return.

 

[ALP]

They would if they were asked about it. I'm suprised nobody has asked about them possibly returning for atleast one more 'cause so many fans would love that.

Nolan's vision will be over in 2012. That makes room for like a Batman Beyond film where Keaton as Bruce is the old mentor with a new younger Batman in the forefront. A cameo by Michelle Pfeiffer would be cool as their was no resolution whatsoever to their tragic relationship from Returns.

And Burton's vision was over about 20 years ago...

There is zero chance of Keaton returning to play Bruce Wayne, don't let yourself down for crazy fanboy wishing. If anything, WB will be begging Christian Bale to continue the role. Keaton will return to play a 60 year old Batman the day Sean Connery returns to play a 70 year old James Bond.

This could totaly work and could give Burton/Keaton a chance to do a third version of their vision of Batman and pretend those crappy Shumacher films never happened- ala Superman Returns.

You do realize that is what Nolan has done...

 

[Rebel]

And Burton's vision was over about 20 years ago...

There is zero chance of Keaton returning to play Bruce Wayne, don't let yourself down for crazy fanboy wishing. If anything, WB will be begging Christian Bale to continue the role. Keaton will return to play a 60 year old Batman the day Sean Connery returns to play a 70 year old James Bond.

You do realize that is what Nolan has done...

What about a Batman Beyond concept? Nobody is asking Keaton to appear in the mask and cape again ala Indiana Jones 4. I'm talking a mentor role for a new Batman. Have you understood my previous posts?

 

[Chiroptera]

If Tim Burton continued On with "Batman forever" and "Batman and Robin"

i think "Batman and Robin" would have been called batman Triumphant for obvious reasons....

i also would have liked to joker come Back that would be awesome!! t:

anyways heres my manip of what could have been jokers new costume idk just a concept...

 

[returntovoid]

It's a shame that WB didn't let Burton finish his Bat-Trilogy but now we got to move on. What happened, happened but WB learned a lesson with the box-office failure of Batman & Robin.

On the contrary, I think Burton can complete his Bat-Trilogy by making the third animated. Either normal animation or stop-motion.

 

[dude stannis]

We already know what Burton's Mad Hatter would've looked like.

Looks creepy as hell and you can see pedophile written all over him. Works for me.

 

[Rebel]

I don't understand why it has to be animated if it's done. If there is a big enough fanbase and fan requests, WB will do another live action Batman with Burton at the helm. There is no denying the success of his first 2 films with Keaton, bot critically and financially.

Steven Spielberg and Harrison Ford would've never even considered returning to for one more Indiana Jones 20 years after the last one if it wasn't for the fanbase and fan requests.

 

[Two-Face]

I don't understand why it has to be animated if it's done. If there is a big enough fanbase and fan requests, WB will do another live action Batman with Burton at the helm. There is no denying the success of his first 2 films with Keaton, bot critically and financially.

Steven Spielberg and Harrison Ford would've never even considered returning to for one more Indiana Jones 20 years after the last one if it wasn't for the fanbase and fan requests.

Only Batman movie Burton would do is The Dark Knight Returns live-action. other that I don't see him return for his Batman 3. Old franchise is dead anyway.

 

[Rebel]

Only Batman movie Burton would do is The Dark Knight Returns live-action. other that I don't see him return for his Batman 3. Old franchise is dead anyway.

Of course, DKR is a great way to get them back for one more. I just used "Beyond" for lack of a better idea since I never read the comics.

 

[TruerToTheCore]

And when will people finally get that DKR is just not burton's style at all?

 

[Rebel]

DKR could still be an inspiration to an original idea for Burton. Just as how his first two films were.

 

[Two-Face]

And when will people finally get that DKR is just not burton's style at all?

It will be if he makes it.....

 

[dude stannis]

Rebel, sorry dude, it's not going to happen. Just hope for the Bale/Snyder TDKR.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

Tim Burton's BATMAN FOREVER would've had the same sense of gothic fantasy as SLEEPY HOLLOW - no doubt he would redefine many things on his way there, for one thing it wouldn't be in the winter (so I'm thinking lots of thunder and lighting and graveyards for optimum effect). I'm willing to bet my hat that he would've made a Robin-centric film (to appease the reaction from the last film of being too 'non-family-friendly' in a "wait till you see what I do to the kid!") He's always been a poet of childhood. Seeing a young (8-9 year old) Dick Grayson haunted by monstrous figures in the aftermath of his parent's murder - set within the gothic castle-like shadows of Wayne Manor, with a BatMan in the midst (the contrast between the bright, colourful circus and the dead, black and white Wayne manor compelling him for that red costume?) God I could just die.

Michael Keaton's Bruce Wayne, much older and fatherly now, reflecting his pain through Grayson's? I'm looking at ROBIN'S RECKONING from the animated series with a much more detective-oriented storytelling with that bald Riddler with a pet rat, and a Harvey Dent who goes over the edge with an actual split-personality disorder (rather than a lapse in morality from Nolan-verse). Who knows? Maybe an insight into Burton's Asylum (to compare dark, gothic castles). I can't think of the female lead though.

And the classic batmobile ONE MORE TIME! TO ELFMAN'S MUSIC!

Sigh, one could really just die. I miss the old days.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

Scratch that, I just remembered Renee Russo was to be the lead Gal in Gotham when Keaton was involved (just imagine a sultry psychiatrist like Chase Meridian with Burton's sensibilities).

 

[bullets]

i also would have liked to joker come Back that would be awesome!! t:

From the dead ? They didn't even need an Arkham in the Burton series. Selina might of found her way back though.

I wish he did go on to make 3&4 . I wonder how it would of affected BB and if we would of gotten it.

 

[returntovoid]

I wouldn't be surprised if Tim Burton turned Catwoman into a thief had he done the third since she murdered her boss in Returns and I doubt she'd want to have anything to do with Shreck's company. I guess Returns was sort of a Catwoman: Year One that's inspired by Her Sisters Keeper.

 

[GothamAlleys]

Nolan's franchise? Nolan is the current director, but it's not HIS franchise. WB isn't gonna stop after three movies. They'll simply do a 4th with another director and offer Christian Bale a lot of money to return.

That's true and that's what scares me. Too bad Nolan doesnt have the rights to Batman movies so he can sit on them and not let anyone else do more movies. Im sure well keep getting Batman movies every decade or so. On the other hand, where they can go from here? There were already fantasy Gothic Batman movies, a campy Barbie Batman cartoony movies and a realistic serious Batman movies. So whats next?

 

[Grillz]

That's true and that's what scares me. Too bad Nolan doesnt have the rights to Batman movies so he can sit on them and not let anyone else do more movies. Im sure well keep getting Batman movies every decade or so. On the other hand, where they can go from here? There were already fantasy Gothic Batman movies, a campy Barbie Batman cartoony movies and a realistic serious Batman movies. So whats next?

That's kind of selfish thinking. Eventually other directors will come in and make another Batman film, it may not be one of the directors we have now, but soon there will be another one. Mabe a comic adaption, or even one closer to the comics you never know, but until people stop thinking creatively, we will have comic adaptions, fresh ideas, and so on.

 

[AllyBabble]

That's true and that's what scares me. Too bad Nolan doesnt have the rights to Batman movies so he can sit on them and not let anyone else do more movies. Im sure well keep getting Batman movies every decade or so. On the other hand, where they can go from here? There were already fantasy Gothic Batman movies, a campy Barbie Batman cartoony movies and a realistic serious Batman movies. So whats next?

My guess is serious toned Batman movies but with sci-fi elements, which Nolan has avoided for the most part(apart from the micro-wave emitter). The only BM movie we have ever had that has had superpowers and sci-fi weaponary is B&R(I don't count CW as supernatural in BR), but it was not because of that the movie suffered.
We could get something along the lines of a Batman movie made by David Cronenberg, imagine a villan's origin beginning much like in 'The Fly', that could slot right in with the serious tone of Nolan's films and not feel so jarring a change in style.

 

[GothamAlleys]

That's kind of selfish thinking. Eventually other directors will come in and make another Batman film, it may not be one of the directors we have now, but soon there will be another one.

Yes but just because they can do it doesnt mean they should. Most of the classic series' and mythologies are ruined now by bad sequels or awful remakes. Why not leave it as it is and like Nolan, end it because it serves the story and not milk it as long as possible. If not B&R we would have Batman 7 by now.I believe in quality over quantity. Im not behind the idea of continuously making movies untill they make such bad one that it stalls the mythology

 

[Majik1387]

Nolan's movies, while entertaining, are not all that great to me. I know I'm not alone when I don't find his Bat-movies so sacred. I much rather have a director afterward to go more of the Dini storytelling route for future movies.
And while I personally don't know Nolan, I don't think he's be as *****ey and egotistical to think no one deserves to make Batman movies besides him.

 

[Jochimus]

Sorry, but I WANT other cinematic versions of Batman after Nolan. Not that I dislike Nolan's version, but his isn't the end-all be-all of Batman film incarnations. Neither was Burton's, for that matter. Batman's been reinterpreted so many times in the different mediums that that's part of his appeal IMO.

In fact, since we've already gone the goth route with Burton and the psychological route with Nolan, I'd be game for the next director to go into a different direction - one that doesn't reduce the character to a poor knockoff of the Adam West days. I would not be averse to a more sci-fi-slanted take with more fantastic villains like Croc, Clayface, Man-Bat, etc., either, if one could figure out how to do it.

Back on topic, I doubt Burton would have stuck around long after BR, personally - I don't think he felt all that comfortable with adding Robin, or with the studio, for that matter (especially if the stories about his relationship with them during his work on "Superman Lives" are any indicator). I'm inclined to agree with the idea that if he had made BF, that'd have been the end of it for him.