What is DC Entertainment doing? What is their plan?

[akfj]

Who is Refn?

Nicolas Winding Refn: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0716347/

 

[Rowsdower!]

I really don't see why Flash wouldn't work on the big screen. Can someone explain this notion to me? Granted, I haven't read the character in years, but... I haven't really read comics in years aside from the occasional TPB that catches my eye. Unless the Flash is seriously unpopular (and I don't think he is, is he?), I don't see why a Flash movie couldn't be visually stunning, suspenseful and emotional.

 

[MadVillainy]

It could be all that. HOnestly I think most comic characters of The FLash's caliber can. It's just that studios dont give a ****

 

[Red Mask]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks DC's characters can do better as animated features:

http://blog.newsarama.com/2011/06/27/green-lantern-is-a-blip-mark-millar-on-the-future-of-superhero-movies/

 

[The Batman]

Mark Millar is full of ****.

He was especially full of **** when he said Superman couldnt translate in a modern context.

DC characters usually fail when they try to make them like marvel characters.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Didn't his pitch for a Superman movie get rejected?

 

[akfj]

Yeah, this was his idea:

Exclusive: Mark Millar Talks Superman
Pitches his 'Magnum Opus' to Empire

Mark Millar wants to create an epic 8-hour screen story which will follow the entire life of Kal-El from his birth on Krypton a thousand years ago, until he is the last being left on Earth.

Empire sat down for a chat with comic book writer and creator Millar, the man behind Wanted and the upcoming Kick-Ass, and he filled us in on his pitch for the follow-up to Superman Returns.

Mark has been working closely with a ‘big-Hollywood action director’ – who he refuses to name at this stage – on a pitch for what he is calling the Magnum Opus of Superman stories. His idea is for an 8-hour saga, split into 3 films to be released a year apart, in a Lord of the Rings fashion. Although several other sources have reported similar conversations with Mark, he went into further detail, fleshing out the story arc a little more.

“It’s gonna be like Michael Corleone in the Godfather films, the entire story from beginning to end, you see where he starts, how he becomes who he becomes, and where that takes him. The Dark Knight showed you can take a comic book property and make a serious film, and I think the studios are ready to listen to bigger ideas now.”

“The problem with Superman Returns was like releasing Star Wars in ’77, The Empire Strikes Back in ’80 and then waiting 28 years to release Return of the Jedi, it wasn’t relevant. I understand what Bryan Singer was trying to do, to pay homage to Richard Donner’s original vision, but I think you should pay homage by doing something completely different.”

“I want to start on Krypton, a thousand years ago, and end with Superman alone on Planet Earth, the last being left on the planet, as the yellow sun turns red and starts to supernova, and he loses his powers."

Certainly no-one can ever say that Millar lacks vision and if he and his ‘bigHollywoodaction director’ friend get backing for the project, and we certainly hope they do, it might just prove to be the Godfather of superhero films.

Link: http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=23521

 

[Karelia]

Hopefully WB moves forward and learn from their mistakes. I want to see The Flash.

 

[JeetKuneDo]

Mark Millar is full of ****.

He was especially full of **** when he said Superman couldnt translate in a modern context.

DC characters usually fail when they try to make them like marvel characters.

He may have a point on the others, but Supes is a proven winner. I don't know why no one noticed that Superman Returns grossed over $200 million domestic.....and almost no one liked it! That's almost exactly what Batman Begins grossed....and everyone loved that one. Imagine how well a Superman movie would do if everyone liked it?

As we are seeing this year, crossing the $200 million mark isn't as easy as some people like to think. Maybe now people will remember that most comic book movies don't break the $200 million barrier. I think we got a little spoiled....some were actually calling IM2 a "disappointment" when it grossed well over $300 million domestic and well over $600 worldwide last year. That's looking more and more silly now.

Anyone think a Superman movie would fail to break $200 million? I say another mediocre one would easily pull it off.....a good one gets to $250 easy....a great one vaults past $300.

 

[JeetKuneDo]

Yeah, this was his idea:

Wow....that Mark Millar idea sounds awesome! If done as well as LOTR it could be the greatest trilogy ever made.

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

Eh. I Miller is overrated. It wouldn't have been that good.

 

[JeetKuneDo]

Eh. I Miller is overrated. It wouldn't have been that good.

It sounds so epic to me. A thousand years tale over 3 movies....wow.

Do it right and I may never take it out of my DVD player.

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

I rather get what were getting now. I cant stand that arrogant piece of **** Millar.

 

[psylockolussus]

Superhero Hype just posted this about GL:

http://www.superherohype.com/news/a...-tickets-sales?cpage=0#written_comments_title

Now 5 minutes ago DC JUST made this annoucement:

http://blogs.forbes.com/markhughes/...n-warner-bros-plans-sequel/?partner=yahoofeed

GL got a sequel even if the numbers are going down. Confident, ballsy and bold, let's give it a try.

LOL lets see if they can keep their word.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Mark Miller


http://www.primaryignition.com/2011/06/28/mark-millar-comments-on-superhero-movies-dc-characters/

I don't agree that these characters can't work in live action. One or two misfires does not mean it's impossible. WB needs to have the right people behind the projects. People with a passion for the character. I'm not a big fan of Refn, but his passion for WW would probably make for a pretty good flick.

I disagree with Mark Millar. Other than the reasons for their lack of popularity (which is not an insurmountable obstacle, as Iron Man proved), there's not much that would make many of the more obscure DC characters any less viable than Marvel's less well-known characters.

Mark Millar is full of ****.

He was especially full of **** when he said Superman couldnt translate in a modern context.

DC characters usually fail when they try to make them like marvel characters.

I agree.

 

[Rowsdower!]

What I don't get about Millar's statement is... HE said he could write a Superman script that would make a huge hit movie. Now, suddenly, Superman (and apparently all DC characters no named Batman) won't translate to film? Sounds like sour grapes from an arrogant *****ebag.

 

[Godzilla2014]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks DC's characters can do better as animated features:

http://blog.newsarama.com/2011/06/27/green-lantern-is-a-blip-mark-millar-on-the-future-of-superhero-movies/

I disagree. Green Lantern is troubled by the fact that it was a by-the-numbers origin story for the sake of telling the origin story.

 

[MadVillainy]

well the "sake of telling the origin story" is that not everyone knows it.

 

[Godzilla2014]

well the "sake of telling the origin story" is that not everyone knows it.

True. I meant that it was an arbitrarily formulaic origin story for the sake of being formulaic. I would have much preferred to see Parallax assaulting Oa instead of him attacking Earth, for example, that would have made it feel more like a Star Wars-type space-opera and been less like a pale imitation of Iron Man.

 

[MadVillainy]

Ah I see. I still havent seen it yet, but from what I hear the origin is paint by numbers.

Ive said it and I'll keep banging the drum, I think the best move for DC is to make a Wally West Flash movie.
He has all the powers of The Flash (a hero that is constantly said to be the next best choice for DC in terms of super powers) and his origin is completely different from what we've seen in any superhero movie

I also think that WW and Aquaman have different origins too. But theyre more hesitant to make them

 

[Rowsdower!]

True. I meant that it was an arbitrarily formulaic origin story for the sake of being formulaic. I would have much preferred to see Parallax assaulting Oa instead of him attacking Earth, for example, that would have made it feel more like a Star Wars-type space-opera and been less like a pale imitation of Iron Man.

That might have been cool, but I think we as fans need to understand that these movies are also attempting to make a connection with the general public. Now, I know that Green Lantern didn't make that conneciton for whatever reason, but regardless... having Parallax attack earth likely creates a more effective sequence for everyday, non-comic book fans because the idea of a powerful force wiping out an entire city hits home more than said force attacking a bunch of CGI aliens.

 

[Godzilla2014]

That might have been cool, but I think we as fans need to understand that these movies are also attempting to make a connection with the general public. Now, I know that Green Lantern didn't make that conneciton for whatever reason, but regardless... having Parallax attack earth likely creates a more effective sequence for everyday, non-comic book fans because the idea of a powerful force wiping out an entire city hits home more than said force attacking a bunch of CGI aliens.

General audiences seemed to connect with space operas like Star Wars & Star Trek just fine. I think that the general audiences and critics are getting tired of these superhero films doing the same things over and over again. It's getting old and I think it will be the death of the genre.
Hey, I am not even much of a fan of Green Lantern, but I thought it was a shame that the film wasted its potential to make itself distinct from a sea of other comic book adaptations in theaters this summer, as well as other superhero movies that have come out since the comic book movie renaissance began.

 

[ClarkLuther55]

Millar's ending for a Superman trilogy sounds so extraneous. What's the point of showing Superman outliving everyone and somehow still being stuck on Earth alone billions of years in the future, with the rest of humanity extinct? That would mean that he ultimately failed to protect this world. It would also mean that in the billions of years before our sun is supposed to supernova, no one ever invented a spaceship even though such a thing is very possible in the Superman universe (it's how he got here). Who wants to see Superman standing there powerless, about to die? Great ending.

After reading that a while ago, I got a feeling that stuff like that is why Millar's pitch was rejected.

If he's trying to say now that Superman doesn't work these days, he's totally wrong. As others have pointed out, Superman Returns made over $200 million domestic, more than Batman Begins. I'd also like to point out that Superman Returns was NOT a hated movie. It received positive reviews and audience polls also showed regular people giving it decent marks.

Superman Returns receives too much criticism, like the latest Indiana Jones movie, X-Men: The Last Stand, or the Star Wars prequels. Movies that did decent to great in both critical reviews and at the box office, which regular people paid a lot of money to see, but which certain segments of the fanboy community insist were total failures.

That's not true. I have my own problems with Superman Returns (it was definitely not the right direction to take when trying to relaunch the franchise), but it wasn't the hated flop that a lot of people try to make it out to be.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Millar's ending for a Superman trilogy sounds so extraneous. What's the point of showing Superman outliving everyone and somehow still being stuck on Earth alone billions of years in the future, with the rest of humanity extinct? That would mean that he ultimately failed to protect this world. It would also mean that in the billions of years before our sun is supposed to supernova, no one ever invented a spaceship even though such a thing is very possible in the Superman universe (it's how he got here). Who wants to see Superman standing there powerless, about to die? Great ending.

After reading that a while ago, I got a feeling that stuff like that is why Millar's pitch was rejected.

I agree.

If he's trying to say now that Superman doesn't work these days, he's totally wrong. As others have pointed out, Superman Returns made over $200 million domestic, more than Batman Begins. I'd also like to point out that Superman Returns was NOT a hated movie. It received positive reviews and audience polls also showed regular people giving it decent marks.

I think it was just that the movie was underwhelming, and it didn't seem to leave nearly as much of an impact as people were hoping and expecting it to.

Superman Returns receives too much criticism, like the latest Indiana Jones movie, X-Men: The Last Stand, or the Star Wars prequels. Movies that did decent to great in both critical reviews and at the box office, which regular people paid a lot of money to see, but which certain segments of the fanboy community insist were total failures.

That's not true. I have my own problems with Superman Returns (it was definitely not the right direction to take when trying to relaunch the franchise), but it wasn't the hated flop that a lot of people try to make it out to be.

I do agree.

 

[Red Mask]

General audiences seemed to connect with space operas like Star Wars & Star Trek just fine. I think that the general audiences and critics are getting tired of these superhero films doing the same things over and over again. It's getting old and I think it will be the death of the genre.
Hey, I am not even much of a fan of Green Lantern, but I thought it was a shame that the film wasted its potential to make itself distinct from a sea of other comic book adaptations in theaters this summer, as well as other superhero movies that have come out since the comic book movie renaissance began.

There's no contest between Green Lantern and the Star Wars & Star Trek sagas. There's no way it could compete and the numbers proved it.

Hopefully, the new animated Green Lantern show can succeed just as well as Star Wars: the Clone Wars.