What is the future of DC films after the failure of "Green Lantern"?

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I think the film version's childhood/Martin Jordan elements, as imperfect as their insertion was, still make it pretty clear that Hal is afraid of what happened to his father, and he overcompensates with his recklessness. Why he became a pilot is pretty obvious. He loves to fly, the risk, the rush, the escape, etc.

Is there anything in the deleted scenes about him using it as an escape? Or is there just more about him as a kid?

I find it hard to believe that that little scene makes the entire rest of the film flow so much better.

There are a few things that add to the movie in the EE, the childhood scene shows Hal's awe for his Dad, his Dad's ability to over-come fear and his assuredness which older Hal tries to mimic. Also actually SEEING his Dad dying in front of Hal's eyes has a lot more impact than the quick flashback scene, especially as there is a brief of moment of hope that he will survive just before he dies.

Also, his talk with his nephew explains why he loves to fly in a bit more detail, its the only thing in his life that makes him feel free and special, but we know that there is always that element of fear when he does it. It really is worth watching.

 

[The Guard]

So he kind of wants to live up to his father, but is insecure about his actual ability to do so? I like that.

When you say seeing his dad die...is it the same kind of sequence, where the plane explodes and blows him back, just in real time?

I'll check it out, thanks.

 

[Destiny]

The movies was still very badly made imo
**** GL becoming star wars, they didn't even get the earth plot right

 

[The Morningstar]

I've seen the extended cut now. It makes it a little better, but not much. I liked the part in the house when Hal heard his parents arguing and his dad went up to his room to talk to him. But overall the added scenes were just too melodramatic and cheesy. And when his dad hands Hal his jacket and is like "Keep it warm for me" it's just soooooooooo obvious he's gonna die. It's like something from a TV movie for me. The score didn't help either.

And the girl playing young Carol Ferris... man I don't mean to be cruel but... well, she ain't gonna win no beauty pageants.

 

[chamber-music]

The Irish Times newspaper rated Green Lantern the worst movie of the year which is surprising.

 

[Destiny]

Why? It is.
Did you expect Transformers 3 to be on the top of the list? it may have had a bad story but it was very entertaining, GL was just bad, bad story, bad cgi, badly directed, Hal Jordan behaved like a ****** Tony Stark Rip off

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

So he kind of wants to live up to his father, but is insecure about his actual ability to do so? I like that.

Sort of yeah, he explains that flying is the only time he doesnt feel like a screw-up and feels free, but the fear of what happened to his father happening to him is always there as well.

When you say seeing his dad die...is it the same kind of sequence, where the plane explodes and blows him back, just in real time?

I'll check it out, thanks.

You see more than you do in the flashback, there is even a brief moment of hope were it looks like his dad survived, which makes the fact that he doesnt that bit more tragic.

 

[chamber-music]

Why? It is.
Did you expect Transformers 3 to be on the top of the list? it may have had a bad story but it was very entertaining, GL was just bad, bad story, bad cgi, badly directed, Hal Jordan behaved like a ****** Tony Stark Rip off

I'm not saying it was good but I'm sure there were far worst movies this year.

 

[Red Mask]

**** GL becoming star wars, they didn't even get the earth plot right

Whomever said it would be like Star Wars was

1. ABSOLUTELY DELUDED

2. ON SERIOUS DRUGS


You pick which one!

 

[RoughNTumble]

it should have been like star wars

but was instead like fantastic four V_V

having just re-read secret origins, it's a shame the writers/director didn't have the vision to capture that rich 50's sci-fi atmosphere

 

[Red Mask]

it should have been like star wars

I saw Star Wars: the New Hope play on widescreen at a video store today. Not even close to that.

 

[RoughNTumble]

I'm not sure what you're trying to say

 

[Red Mask]

Green Lantern missed its shot decades ago. Star Wars rules!

 

[Art_of_Crime]

Perhaps they should reel it in a bit, and not do something with quite the enormous scope of GL next time.

Hopefully superman won't be a flop. If the flagship character goes down the company is up **** creek.


A well known name like the flash or green arrow would be good.
Flash would require a lot of effects, but if done well could be a lot of fun, and thanks to smallville green arrow is well known enough to get his own film. That one could be a lot more "reality based" and even a little gritty which seems to sell well.

 

[Rockstar]

The future of DC films is Batman...and Superman.... and a bunch of lesser known properties, much like the past.


GL's failure ruined any chances of other DC superheroes getting films. It was a huge misfire.

 

[Rockstar]

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[Art_of_Crime]

the worst thing they can do right now is make movies with characters that are not a household name.

Sorry but for now, no Booster Gold, Hawkman, Justice Society or any other comic hero that is even remotely obscure to someone that does not read comics.
We need the heavy hitters to get the train back on the tracks.

DC could focus on their awesome animated films. Perhaps even make a feature length one that gets a limited theatrical release.

 

[RoughNTumble]

the worst thing they can do right now is make movies with characters that are not a household name.

Sorry but for now, no Booster Gold, Hawkman, Justice Society or any other comic hero that is even remotely obscure to someone that does not read comics.
We need the heavy hitters to get the train back on the tracks.

DC could focus on their awesome animated films. Perhaps even make a feature length one that gets a limited theatrical release.

the average american was at best able to vaguely recall iron man if they had seen the animated series as a child

it's not about the popularity of the character. if they've survived in comics for so long, you know there's something about them that appeals to people.

The key is getting a creative team that cares about the character enough to make the audience care.

 

[chiefchirpa]

The key is getting a creative team that cares about the character enough to make the audience care.

And Robert Downey, Jr.

Frankly, ditch the idea that the movie has to follow what's laid in the comics. In the case of Iron Man, it's really the movie that influence the current comics with the more eccentric, less buttoned down Tony Stark. Give the actors, directors, and producers some freedom in delivering a good movie for a much larger and varying audiences. Of course all without straying much out of the source materials. Lots of stuff in GL are made for comic fan service. That's not what you aim for in a movie, because 90% movie audiences won't understand that fan service.

Well I'm not really kidding with Robert Downey Jr. Or probably Chris Hemsworth and Michael Fassbender, too. An upstart comic franchise needs smart, dedicated actors that closely embody the roles.

 

[Rockstar]

GL was poorly written, poorly cast (with the exception of Sinestro), and poorly visually executed (CGI Costume)...

It was doomed to fail. Too many huge missteps that wouldn't resonate with general audiences.

After "The Dark Knight," the bar was rasied considerably for these films and GL didn't come close to meeting audience expecatations.

 

[8wid]

Green Lantern is going to be bypassed, in about five years maybe rebooted. How many movies does it take to do one movie right in the corporate Hollywood circus?! It will be bypassed with other characters like Wonder Woman, Aquaman, the Flash, Martian Manhunter, and especially Superman making their way onto the big screen.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

you seriously think martian manhunter's going to get a movie?

 

[Rorschach II]

Green Lantern tanked because it was poorly conceived and poorly executed, not because Green Lantern himself is a bad character. DC should learn lessons from it and continue developing movies around other characters alongside Batman and Superman.

To me, the worst part of GL was the CGI. There was so much of it, and it all looked so unrealistic, that it just took me out of the movie completely. Hal Jordan looked like a floating head every time he turned into GL. I don't know how they let the movie go to print like that.

The second worst part was how formulaic it was. It hit all the beats that every on-screen superhero origin story hit since Spider-Man. Ryan Reynolds did a good job, it had interesting themes and a good overall message, but it was all just too by-the-numbers to be really entertaining.

Now, worst movie of 2011? No, not by a longshot. It's at least twice as good as Transformers 3. I know that crap made a ton of money, but it left me with a throbbing headache. Not just because of the meaningless action and mindless explosions, but because my mind had to work so hard to give a ****, whilst simultaneously trying to cover all the holes in the narrative. Now THAT movie was ****ing horse****, but I still wouldn't even call THAT the worst movie of 2011.