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What is the future of DC films after the failure of "Green Lantern"?

I could go for a live action Blue Beetle movie. Come on DC/WB what do you have to lose its not like it would require a huge budget like GL, just give me a live action Jaime Reyes already!!! Tyler Posey for Jaime, Chris Pine for Ted, perfect casting!
 
Way to kill my arguement lol.I totally forgot about him. I still want a Blue Beetle movie though, preferably the Jaime Reyes version.

I wasn't trying to kill your argument, I was just letting you know if you want to see one it does exist. :oldrazz:
 
I wasn't trying to kill your argument, I was just letting you know if you want to see one it does exist. :oldrazz:

Ok then thanks for the reminder. Although I didn't like how Jaime looked when he was the Blue Beetle, it looked cheap, but then again it was Smallville.
 
They did a good job with Booster Gold, though, I was impressed.
 
Which superhero film adaption (not TV show) will appeal most to young people today - Wonder Woman, The Flash, Aquaman, Hawkman, Green Arrow, Shazam - when looking at what kind of films that are successful or not. I guess it is the same answer to the question: "which one will be most successful?"

And which one could most likely end up the same way as Green Lantern (just look at everything people hate about that film, and apply that on another hero)

And before I forget it, you must excuse me for the ones I mention by name, but when it comes to live action versions of classic, but untested, DC heroes, it's mostly about these names and no others.

I fear that Aquaman is the one that's most likely to do the same mistakes as Green Lantern, in terms of story telling, acting, special effects etc. Sad but true.

Since mythology in general, and ancient greece in particular, is quite popular with the audience right know - a Wonder Woman film may benefit from it. Those films, especially actual sword and sandal stuff like Immortals and Clash (sorry Percy) are quite heavy in violent action, it suits WW pretty well.
But if we look at all fantasy films being made, I guess Aquaman may be the closest in style.

And if we look at only superhero stuff. The Flash seems to fit in more with the current crop of heroes than any other DC hero does. Yes, we have got Thor, but combinations of mythology and superheroes haven't developped beyond that yet.
 
I think anything can work as long as DC steps up their writting and takes things a bit more seriously.
 
A Green Arrow film could easily have the most appeal, if they go for the same gritty real-world approach as Nolan's Batman films.

Though I think the awesomeness of Hawkeye will steal GA's thunder.
 
So will elements of The Hunger Games. There's a lot of bow and trick arrows stuff going on there, too. Glad SMALLVILLE got Green Arrow out there first.
 
Out where? To Smallville's audience on CW?

Green Arrow is nowhere close to mainstream.


Hawkeye in Avengers will really make the mark.
 
A Green Arrow film could easily have the most appeal, if they go for the same gritty real-world approach as Nolan's Batman films.
But you forget Iron Man, Spider-Man, Captain America, X-Men.
The Flash would work well alongside them.

I include all superhero films, not just DC (Batman).

 
A Green Arrow film could easily have the most appeal, if they go for the same gritty real-world approach as Nolan's Batman films.

Though I think the awesomeness of Hawkeye will steal GA's thunder.

Green Lantern and Green Hornet kill the grittiness of Green Arrow.

Hawkeye of the movieverse = Bourne like Ulti-Hawkeye
 
Green Arrow and gritty real world approach like Nolan's would be horrible.

It should be a swashbuckling adventure, reminiscent of the old Errol Flynn movies, but set in modern times. Like a proper old school, fun, action adventure movie. None of this grim dark realistic crap.
 
A Green Arrow film could easily have the most appeal, if they go for the same gritty real-world approach as Nolan's Batman films.

Though I think the awesomeness of Hawkeye will steal GA's thunder.

I think that a Green Arrow film could deal with real-world social issues, but I don't think that "gritty" really fits the character (from what I've heard). Oliver Queen is a much less serious and brooding person than Bruce Wayne.

Green Arrow and gritty real world approach like Nolan's would be horrible.

It should be a swashbuckling adventure, reminiscent of the old Errol Flynn movies, but set in modern times. Like a proper old school, fun, action adventure movie. None of this grim dark realistic crap.

What about social commentary? Should that be out of the question in your opinion?
 
You can have social commentary in anything. Sometimes the best socio-political commentary is hidden under a veil of fantasy and outlandish... ness. It doesn't have to be grim or gritty or realistic.

Considering part of Green Arrow's character is that he's a leftie, it fits and it could work.
 
You can have social commentary in anything. Sometimes the best socio-political commentary is hidden under a veil of fantasy and outlandish... ness. It doesn't have to be grim or gritty or realistic.

Good point.

Considering part of Green Arrow's character is that he's a leftie, it fits and it could work.

That's why I brought that up. Green Arrow is one of the few comic book characters with a known political standing, and I think his activism could help to distinguish him from other rich playboy heroes like Bruce Wayne and Tony Stark.
 
Swashbuckling? Haha. Nolan's formula made a billion WW and probably the best superhero film produced to date.

It's even influenced how they've approached Superman with MoS.

It seems like such a natural fit for Green Arrow, especially considering the character is a human without powers.

By realworld and gritty, I mean along these lines:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzTu-r03vhE

I want to see him taking down the corrupt elite, politicians, mob members, assassins, murderers, rapists, etc.
 
Swashbuckling? Haha. Nolan's formula made a billion WW and probably the best superhero film produced to date.

It's even influenced how they've approached Superman with MoS.

It seems like such a natural fit for Green Arrow, especially considering the character is a human without powers.

By realworld and gritty, I mean along these lines:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzTu-r03vhE

I want to see him taking down mob members, assassins, murderers, rapists etc.

The thing is, just because Green Arrow has no powers, doesn't mean he should be gritty. That's just not his character.
There's plenty of competition in that niche, like Batman and Daredevil. Do you really think that Green Arrow could keep up with them?
 
Nolan's formula didn't make a billion WW. A mid summer blockbuster about Batman vs The Joker made a billion WW.

And if Superman is gritty and realistic? Please, kill me now.

I just don't think the super serious gritty take like Nolan's on Batman would work with Green Arrow. He's just not that kind of character. His film should be more light hearted and like i said, swashbuckling. No one will take a character called Green Arrow who looks like he was inspired by Robin hood seriously anyway, so don't try to make them. Embrace the colourful side of the character, maybe have some self awareness "Yes i know i look like Robin Hood, what's your point?".

Just because it's more fun and light hearted doesn't mean the movie can't deal with the issues you talk about, like corrupt right wing politicians.

And it's kinda funny when people say Batman is a realistic character. He's not... at all. A Bruce Wayne could never, ever, ever exist in the real world. He'd have to be Donald Trump, Bruce Lee, Albert Einstein and Sherlock Holmes all rolled into an Olympic level athlete at the age of 30-40? Not possible. Not ever, ever, ever possible.
 
It's very unlikely they would keep the look from the comics anyway.

Even the upcoming Green Arrow TV pilot has Queen wearing black armor, a hood, and a lower face mask that functions as a voice changer.

Nothing like Robin Hood.

There's enough room to 'Nolanize' Green Arrow. Unfortunately, at WB, the Nolan formula is the only one that works. There has to be some drastic reinvention from the source material... otherwise you end up with the epic fail that was Green Lantern.
 
Nolan's formula didn't make a billion WW. A mid summer blockbuster about Batman vs The Joker made a billion WW.

And if Superman is gritty and realistic? Please, kill me now.

I just don't think the super serious gritty take like Nolan's on Batman would work with Green Arrow. He's just not that kind of character. His film should be more light hearted and like i said, swashbuckling. No one will take a character called Green Arrow who looks like he was inspired by Robin hood seriously anyway, so don't try to make them. Embrace the colourful side of the character, maybe have some self awareness "Yes i know i look like Robin Hood, what's your point?".

Just because it's more fun and light hearted doesn't mean the movie can't deal with the issues you talk about, like corrupt right wing politicians.

And it's kinda funny when people say Batman is a realistic character. He's not... at all. A Bruce Wayne could never, ever, ever exist in the real world. He'd have to be Donald Trump, Bruce Lee, Albert Einstein and Sherlock Holmes all rolled into an Olympic level athlete at the age of 30-40? Not possible. Not ever, ever, ever possible.

I think people could take Green Arrow seriously if the film focuses on his character or gives his Robin Hood-esque in the right context. Not every superhero has to be "tongue-in-cheek".

It's very unlikely they would keep the look from the comics anyway.

Even the upcoming Green Arrow TV pilot has Queen wearing black armor, a hood, and a lower face mask that functions as a voice changer.

Nothing like Robin Hood.

There's enough room to 'Nolanize' Green Arrow. Unfortunately, at WB, the Nolan formula is the only one that works. There has to be some drastic reinvention from the source material... otherwise you end up with the epic fail that was Green Lantern.

Green Arrow doesn't need drastic reinvention if you pull from the right comics.
 
Guess Green Arrow is the superhero to go to if we want something in tune with how the world is today,: power hungry politicians, drug dealers, corrupt cops, poverty, trafficking, a more violent society etc. His villains could be more or less just "real people".
I always thought Aquaman could be that one, with environmental issues, illeagal hunting for marine creatures and all that.
But Green Arrow beats him at that. With the right treatment and in the right hands, live action movie Emerald Archer will kick Hawkeye back to stone age.

But talking the scale of the film Green Arrow is pretty small compared to Aquaman, who in turn could be the most epic-looking superhero adventure we've ever seen. At least in theory.
The underwater hero himself, though, won't be the most epic-looking superhero. I think that goes to Hawkman.... IF they make him look good enough for the big screen. Something that requires a LOT of work. His appearance must be light years away from the Smallville outfit.
 
Long read...

I'm imagining a Justice League movie after they've had Man of Steel, Batman's reboot, Flash and maybe Wonder Woman. The first movie could have the White Martian invasion(harvesting humans maybe?). Supes, Batman, and WW could be the first members in the movie, shortly after recruiting Flash onto the team. Lantern is asked to join as well but initially refuses because of his dedication to the Corps, only getting involved because of the invasion threatening sector 2814. J'onn could be introduced seemingly as a threat to the league at first, but they soon recruit him because he knows the Martians and their weaknesses better than anyone.

I think it would be a great way to introduce J'onn into the films without giving him his own movie right away. That way WB can know if the GA likes the character or not, and make more movies accordingly.

After the first "phase" (MoS, Flash, Justice League, etc.) WB/DC will hopefully have proven that they can do these movies properly to the GA and can move on to giving more heroes their own movies like Wonder Woman(if they haven't done her already), and Aquaman while also making a GL sequel.

I think Aquaman's movie could be a huge underwater epic, the likes of which we've never seen(If Marvel hasn't done Namor by then)! His movie could focus on his life as a husband and King of Atlantis with his brother Orm by his side, plotting to take his place as King. Black Manta could be recruited by Orm to take Arthur out so he doesn't get his "hands dirty". Manta could even "seemingly" die, only to return in an Aquaman sequel as the main villain with modified armor to keep him alive(think Vader), new weapons, an elite force of mercenaries, and a personal vendetta with Aquaman.

The end of Aquaman's movie could lead up to the events of JL 2, ending with him being wrongfully banished or shamed from his kingdom, followed by Orm taking his place as king while keeping a close eye on Arthur's son and wife just in case he ever needs to use them against him. Knowing that Orm has his wife and child under heavy watch, Aquaman looks on from the distance as he sees his people preparing for war against the "Landwalkers" above them (Orm's goal all along).

Justice League 2 could focus on the Atlantean Invasion/War, with Aquaman venturing onto land and joining up with the League to stop Orm and the Atlantean empire. Aquaman could temporarily replace GL who's too busy protecting another part of sector 2814. In the big finale GL could finally return to Earth just as the Atlanteans are getting the edge in the ongoing war, accompanied by a battalion of Thanagarian war ships. It turns out Thanagar was the planet GL was helping while in space, so they're paying him back with their assistance. Hawkwoman could be introduced, shown fighting alongside the JL against the Atlanteans and later being asked to join the team after she proves herself. After killing Orm(Now Oceanmaster) and gaining back his title as King, Aquaman and his people return to the depths after he personally thanks the JL, offering himself as an ally.

Maxwell Lord and Checkmate could also be the side enemies in JL 2. How can the population trust the JL when they've repeatedly been aligning themselves with the "enemy"? First, they let a Martian into the League and now it's one of those dangerous Atlanteans? I can imagine the League getting serious hate for their choices in the beginning.

I'd love to the foes of the JL member's solo movies returning to form their own team to take the League out(Lex, Joker, Black Manta, etc.), meanwhile Darkseid is threatening the planet with his eventual arrival, along with the rest of his Apokoliptian forces.
 
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