What to happen after Avengers? I might know...

[Airwings]

We know that all the heroes in Avengers belong to Marvel. But what if the other film studios become interested in doing something similar with their own heroes properties?
Avengers could be a big box-office smash, and hero team-ups would then be the next big thing. I think it is a logical progress, as we now have seen a lot of solo films.
Fox is planning to reboot Fantastic Four. That we know so far. I say, make that film!
A Daredevil film is to be directed by David Slade. Bring it on, but let's pray for a better film this time.
And then we have the mutants. X-Men First Class is already a success. If we are lucky, we can expect a sequel. And perhaps soon we will have that second Wolverine film.

What if Fox is planning to make all these films, and have cameos by other heroes, or even better: after-credits sequences that open up for a larger hero universe.
Fox can have a big blockbuster on their hands with that. I know people just hate Fox and their superhero adaptions. But what if they give us a really big film.
We have Fantastic Four, we have Daredevil and we have Wolverine & the rest of the X-Men. They will all be a part of the same world, and their paths will be crossed when our planet faces a serious threat. It doesn't have to be their villains working together, it can be something different. Maybe a disaster? Not like 2012 or Day After Tomorrow, that will just be stupid. It needs a new and fresh take on the concept.
Another suggestion can be something that haven't been done in a superhero live action before: ZOMBIES. No, I am not counting Smallville, it need to be better zombies than that.

Sony has Spider-Man and am not sure if he can be a part of a third big superhero team-up.
I must admit I don't really know what studio other characters belongs to. Punisher, Blade and Ghost Rider have been done as live action, and it might not even work with one of them to be in a Spider-Man film. It's too far-fetched as a team-up.

But I really think hero teams are the next big thing. Fox is more likely to try this than Sony.

 

[misjuevos]

the x-men and fantastic four have already done their own "team-up" movies. it was called the x-men and fantastic four. they are already their own team, also they really don't really do much together. it's more the avengers and the fantastic four that are always talking to each other. they usually keep the mutants and the heroes separate till they have a huge event. i know beast and wolverine have been avengers but for the most part the ff and x-men are not close to each other. DD could show up with the fantastic four but really, i don't want to see the x-men and ff team up without the avengers there as well.

also i never liked zombies.

 

[Airwings]

misjuevos: But X-Men/Fantastic Four/Daredevil can't team up with Avengers, because they belong to another studio. I am talking live action films, not comic books. I think you either have forgotten about it, or didn't know it at all.

 

[Roughneck]

there was an Ultimate series called X4 That was an xmen FF crossover. Onslaught was X-men and the FF..............and the Avengers.

It's actually really quite easty to be able to do.....as a Movie DOESN'T NEED TO BE BASED OFF OF SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED IN A COMIC.......Do a New FF Movie (Or better .....don't.....just do a third and Knock sue up at the end.

Then the next big one.....X4. (interestingly enough would be X-men 4 and FF4 at that point ) And Sue has a kid.....who? Well Franklin richards.....a known Mutant.......

But in this instance and Mutation triggered at Birth or a kid with reality warping powers.....the FF are figting off weird stuff and struggling to survive....call in ....oh I don't know....some specialist on Mutants? Yeah that sounds good. Xavier and his team come in to help.

but the whole thing is Dr Doom's doing making it seem like Franklin is a Mutant but he's actually doing Magic or something....I don't know.....but at some point Johnny and Bobby.....and.....Ben.....and........I dunno Storm.....they go to the Negative Zone......with Daredevil. Sure.


Okay, it's getting silly.....but it could work. We won't see it though.

I assume that in the next couple years we will see a big flex of Disney muscle and Marvel will be producing their own FF film. They'll let X-men be with Fox for the time being.

 

[Sam Fisher]

The only thing that will happen after the Avengers is the world ending

 

[chiefchirpa]

^ ... will be averted because of the Cosmic heroes.

I think Marvel should go out with Cosmic heroes - Nova, Darkhawk, Star-Lord, Quasar, Rocket Raccoon, Groot, etc.

 

[Airwings]

chiefchirpa: So you think that Fox' superhero team should be formed because of an alien threat? I thought Avengers will be something similar.

 

[chiefchirpa]

I'm not talking about Fox superhero team, but Marvel Studios next superhero team.

Cosmic Marvel properties are still with Disney/Marvel except for Silver Surfer and classic F4 enemies. If the Avengers are going against Thanos which is perhaps cosmic Dr Doom, then Marvel will need a new original villain for the cosmic heroes.

 

[Airwings]

It's ok with going a little off-topic. But this posts is about team-ups between already live action adapted heroes from Marvel Comics (not Marvel Studio).

 

[misjuevos]

misjuevos: But X-Men/Fantastic Four/Daredevil can't team up with Avengers, because they belong to another studio. I am talking live action films, not comic books. I think you either have forgotten about it, or didn't know it at all.

i know that. im saying the x-men and ff would not be good together. only the avengers and the ff would be good in a shared universe. since that can't be done, just leave it be.

 

[Airwings]

i know that. im saying the x-men and ff would not be good together. only the avengers and the ff would be good in a shared universe. since that can't be done, just leave it be.

But if Fox think it will get money, they will do it.

 

[Captain Marvel]

They're not going to do it. The X-Men and Fantastic Four don't mix, and combining the two will just weaken both. What sense does it make for the humans in the X-Men universe to fear and despise mutants but treat the super-powered Fantastic Four like celebrities? They're on polar ends of the spectrum, and mashing them together gets Fox nothing.

 

[El Payaso]

They're not going to do it. The X-Men and Fantastic Four don't mix, and combining the two will just weaken both. What sense does it make for the humans in the X-Men universe to fear and despise mutants but treat the super-powered Fantastic Four like celebrities? They're on polar ends of the spectrum, and mashing them together gets Fox nothing.

I feel the same about combining Iron Man, C. America, Thor and Hulk.

 

[Captain Marvel]

And you're entitled to that opinion. But Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor have been working together for decades. They're very different, but they exist in a world where the super-heroes have hundreds of different origins. Mixing mutants with the Fantastic Four in the film universe would be stupid. So everyone with powers on the planet is a mutant... except for these four people and whatever villains they face? And they're accepted, while the mutants aren't? That wouldn't work. It works in the comics, as there're far more superhumans than just the FF and mutants, but in a movie universe where they're the only two elements, it won't work.

 

[Anubis]

That sounds like a boos**t excuse.

The reason why they can all exist in one universe is because the FF were humans that got powers, while Mutants are a separate (In their minds) life form that will one day replace them. The general public can and has accepted the FF because of this simple fact. They're one of us, who got powers, while the Mutants were born with them. The FF are public heroes. Superstars. Saved the world on national tv with no masks, and full access. The Mutants are secretive. Could be anywhere. And as far as the GP is concerned, is plotting their downfall. Is it hypocritical? Yes. But since when has humanity been anything but? We live in a world where say, Americans can hate and fear people who practice Islam due to the actions of some crazy fundamentalists, while Christianity, (Which has it's fair share of crazy ass fundamentalists as well) gets a free pass.

There's your hook right right there. The hypocrisy of the Majority.

Plus, Franklin's a Mutant. They've crossed over before, and actually have some pretty close ties.

 

[El Payaso]

And you're entitled to that opinion. But Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor have been working together for decades. They're very different, but they exist in a world where the super-heroes have hundreds of different origins. Mixing mutants with the Fantastic Four in the film universe would be stupid. So everyone with powers on the planet is a mutant... except for these four people and whatever villains they face? And they're accepted, while the mutants aren't? That wouldn't work. It works in the comics, as there're far more superhumans than just the FF and mutants, but in a movie universe where they're the only two elements, it won't work.

You say: Iron Man, C. America, Hulk and Thor have been together in comics therefore it would work on screen. Fantastic Four and X-Men have been together in comics but they woldn't work on screen because we haven't seen other beings but mutants.

So then, what if they show everything from the comics (other superhumans than FF and mutants), so FF and X-Men would work together?

I mean, to you things that has been on comics can work on screen, so why not considering to put everything necessary to have FF and M-Men together?

Personally, I consider it a terrible idea, but I know not everything that's been in comics would work on screen. In this case, Iron Man, Thor, C. America and Hulk together. I mean, how do you team up with a monster driven by rage?

 

[Anubis]

By playing up on the fact that he's not necessarily a monster driven by rage, and can and has shown intelligence, and a moral compass.

Or you could just go with them trying to hunt him down, coming together to take on a larger threat. (I'd say that's the easy way out, but it works. Quite well actually.)

 

[El Payaso]

By playing up on the fact that he's not necessarily a monster driven by rage, and can and has shown intelligence, and a moral compass.

Or you could just go with them trying to hunt him down, coming together to take on a larger threat. (I'd say that's the easy way out, but it works. Quite well actually.)

Or we can have an intelligent moral compassed character and not a monster whose core concept is being raging. Or does Banner becomes Hulk when he feels moral and intelligent?

 

[Anubis]

Oh, I see, you must have a thing against the Hulk then.

Understandable.

 

[El Payaso]

Oh, I see, you must have a thing against the Hulk then.

Understandable.

Why? Is Hulk so hateable it's understandable I hate it?

Or it's just that I think that Banner is supposed to be the intelligent guy and Hulk the brute? Or it has been the opposite all the way and I haven't noticed?

 

[Anubis]

I can see how a lot of people can dislike the Hulk if they don't really take a closer look at the character.

Now, I'm not the biggest Hulk fan. I think he's often used more as a plot device than an actual character. But even I know the character isn't some, rage filled, monster as you say. Outside of the odd personality shift into like, Grey Hulk or, I don't know, Devil Hulk. Or hoodoo mystic *****e bag banishing Banner's soul or something to another dimension, leaving the Hulk Mindless, the Hulk tends to be, well, a hero. Saving kitties from trees. Fighting off monsters and insane super scientist dudes with massive gamma brains. He knows right from wrong. He knows not to kill. (Apparently through Banner's subconscious super math ) He's only considered a rage filled monster by the *****e bags who are constantly shooting at him. (And probably insurance execs.)

The thing is, the Hulk IS BANNER. Make no mistake about that. But more a, petulant child or maybe a cranky teen version of Banner. (which is the version they're currently using in that Earth's Mightiest heroes cartoon to great effect.)

As it stands we don't know what Movie Hulk is gonna be like by the time the Avengers comes along. Going by the end of the TIH, we could actually have a Hulk with Banner running things and can change back and forth at will. Or possibly a Hulk/Banner relationship that is more akin to Firestorm than Jekyll/Hyde. Either way, all it would take is for one of the Avengers to stop, look at things rationally, and see that, hey, the big guys not a monster at all. Maybe if you *****e bags would stop shooting at him, he might stop wrecking s**t. Just a thought. I hope it's Hawkeye.

 

[Franklin Richards]

That sounds like a boos**t excuse.

The reason why they can all exist in one universe is because the FF were humans that got powers, while Mutants are a separate (In their minds) life form that will one day replace them. The general public can and has accepted the FF because of this simple fact. They're one of us, who got powers, while the Mutants were born with them. The FF are public heroes. Superstars. Saved the world on national tv with no masks, and full access. The Mutants are secretive. Could be anywhere. And as far as the GP is concerned, is plotting their downfall. Is it hypocritical? Yes. But since when has humanity been anything but? We live in a world where say, Americans can hate and fear people who practice Islam due to the actions of some crazy fundamentalists, while Christianity, (Which has it's fair share of crazy ass fundamentalists as well) gets a free pass.

There's your hook right right there. The hypocrisy of the Majority.

Plus, Franklin's a Mutant. They've crossed over before, and actually have some pretty close ties.

I'd like to point out that Reed made a swift and conscious choice to make the FF celebraties right out of the box. He wanted them to be hounded by the paparazzi instead of the Government.

 

[Anubis]

Yes, I read Imaginauts too.

Truly one of the most awesome scenes in FF history.

 

[misjuevos]

But if Fox think it will get money, they will do it.

i'd rather they dust off the silver surfer movie. all im saying is i don't think it's a good idea. i'd rather see the avengers and ff take on galactus, not the ff and x-men do it. that is what will happen if they do what you are suggesting. they will just do all the stories we know but replace the avengers for the x-men. there are so many other stories to tell that they really don't need to team up. they are already teams as is.

the shared universe with the avengers is because they are going to be a team and wanted to tell their origins first. the x-men and ff came out the gate as teams. the ff have a shared origin, so now all the x-men can do is tell origins stories. we know who the ff are but really don't know who the x-men are individually, so it would just be too much work for fox to try and combine these two. not saying they wouldn't do it but it might turn into a mess. the x-men continuity is so foggy at this point that fox might think that it would be very confusing for the GA.

 

[Airwings]

And you're entitled to that opinion. But Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor have been working together for decades. They're very different, but they exist in a world where the super-heroes have hundreds of different origins. Mixing mutants with the Fantastic Four in the film universe would be stupid. So everyone with powers on the planet is a mutant... except for these four people and whatever villains they face? And they're accepted, while the mutants aren't? That wouldn't work. It works in the comics, as there're far more superhumans than just the FF and mutants, but in a movie universe where they're the only two elements, it won't work.

People seem to forget that Daredevil will also be in this film. And he's no mutant.

To not confuse people, they could take a handful of the most known X-Men heroes. Storm should be one of them.