JJJ's Ulcer
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NOTE: I'm 'Andrew C' on the Spider-Man comicboards. I spent a few hours writing my dream Spider-Man direction and liked it so much I thought I'd repost it here. I'd like to hear some thoughts about it and also read other people's ideas. There's some minor OMD/BND spoilers referenced throughout...
NOTE 2: Oops. Just tried posting it and it exceeded the character limit, so I have to cut it up into two posts.
http://www.comicboards.com/smb/view.php?rpl=080106215548 (where the original post can be found, reposted below)
(Note: This took me almost four hours to write, but I couldn't stop myself. I hope, despite its length, people look at it, because there's some ideas in here I'm actually proud of)
From here on in, this is what I'd do if I owned the sand-box and didn't have to worry about what anyone else wanted.
This is a long post, but hopefully if you read it you'll like it!
This is would I do from here on in:
I would slowly over the course of the next six months show Peter's Brand New World (or is that Brave New World?
) collapsing due to the fact that all Faustian deals are doomed. It would fall apart with Peter remembering MJ and flashes from his old pre-OMD life. He would investigate, get Dr Strange's help and undo it while keeping some of the less offensive changes, like the mechanical web-shooters and being depowered back to his pre-The Other/Spider-Queen status (I would keep the unmasking because I kind of liked that aspect). This would be explained in a way that wouldn't be completely satisfactory, but atleast come with a thorough explanation that makes some modicum of sense. Maybe the deal had been in effect so long it wasn't possible to undo all of Mephisto's black magic, only the larger and more dangerous facets of it.
After all is said and done and Peter is back in the OMD world, everyone would just remember the pre-OMD world, except Peter, Dr Strange, Mephisto and some cosmic entities. And maybe Franklin Richards as a lark. MJ would have no recollection over her short-lived career as Jackpot. Peter would be torn over the fact he unknowingly committed adultery while in the BND world, would be distraught over the fact Harry Osborn and Aunt May were in his life again only to be cruelly taken away too, and that would create some tension between him and MJ because she has no idea what's wrong with Peter and he won't tell (but not marriage-ending tension thank you very much).
Peter would be thankful for the extra few months he got with Aunt May and he would quietly see her off ala the ending of ASM#400.
Even though Peter was unmasked, his public ID is in some doubt ala Daredevil, due to the Scarlet-Spiders confusing the public in Avengers: The Initiative# 7. JJJ is still convinced that Peter is Spidey due to their encounter in Friendly# 23 though, but has softened and while he still disapproves of Spider-Man he tries to exercise restraint in his editorials. Sometimes an editorial will start with a backhanded compliment towards Spidey and then degenerate into an uncontrolled rant depending on his mood. Cue humorous scenes.
I would let Peter settle back into his routine a bit and would have him leave the Avengers (Spidey's a lone wolf, not a team-player). Peter and MJ would move into an apartment in NYC and Peter while not under the scrutiny he had before, would still be something of a public curiosity with superhero-paparazzi photographing him whenever he leaves his apartment. Peter becomes more protective of MJ, due to what happened to Aunt May and also because he finds the photogs intrusive and painful. This, combined with Peter's schitzoid nature accompanying his memories of Brand New Day, starts to seriously drive MJ away again, until she once again considers seperation... but a twist would bring them back together in the proverbial nick of time! And this is where I officially step from somewhat plausible storylines (if BND did fail) to storylines that would be impossible under almost any editor, but would please me to no end.
MJ is at her breaking point and wants to get away, at least for some time. The readers are thinking "Oh great. Here we go, cheesy seperation part duex." And then the twist comes which brings them back together stronger than ever, for an extremely important reason. During a torrential downpour Peter hears a knock on the door of his apartment. He's surprised because his spider-sense doesn't register at all. Usually he gets a little tingle even if it's the chinese-food delivery guy. As he opens he goes white and lets out a gasp. His deformed clone, Kaine stands there in a drenched trenchcoat, holding the hand of a red-haired toddler who looks exactly like the red-headed girl that Mephisto told him would now never be born. She's around three years old and she's standing there, slightly puzzled but nonplussed looking at a ghost-faced Peter.
MJ is out rehearsing for a play on broadway. Kaine tells Peter what happened. He did rescue baby May from the Scriers all those years ago. He was going to return her straight away, but grew attached when May's first word was "daddy" which pierced the former stone-cold killer right to the bone. It was the first time anyone had showed him genuine love and affection and May started seeing him as her Dad. Eventually he found he could not care for May the way she needed, since it was impossible for him to hold a steady job since he lacked credentials, a social security number and his face looks like a dog's mess. They drifted from city to city, living in shelters. This was no life for the girl he had come to see as a daughter. Even though he loved her, he realized that if he truly loved her he would make the painful sacrifice of giving her back to her rightful parents so she can have the life she deserves.
Peter is extremely thankful and in a state of shock. Kaine says he's returning her on the condition he can visit her on her birthday every year (Halloween day, she was born the day Reilly died) and take her trick or treating, for it's the only time of the year he can go out in public and not terrify people. When Kaine parts ways, little May runs and cries clinging to his trenchcoat and not wanting to stay with Peter. Kaine sadly removes himself from her grip and leaves while telling Peter he's sorry about all the trouble he caused him and Reilly years before, and hopes this is the happiness he's always craved. Little May does not see Peter as her father yet, and Pete knows it will be a long process getting her assimilated, but is so overwhelmed with joy that he doesn't dwell on that long. He hugs her crying tears of joy, while she cries tears of fright borne out of her confusion and anxiety.
I don't need to go into detail about what happens when MJ comes home, but it makes for some dramatic storytelling and represents the first time Peter and MJ have truly been happy in years. They reaffirm their bond and Peter decides to press charges against those tabloids who still claim he's Spider-Man and seeks a restraining order from the photogs so May isn't subjected to that lime-light. He asks JJJ for help in doing this and confides in him, yes he is Spider-Man but is first and foremost Peter Parker, the father of a young girl he loves. JJJ begrudgingly decides to go on the offensive against those tabloids who pursue Peter, even though it goes against his journalistic beliefs that truth should always trump emotion. Peter is thankful and the two bury the hatchet, even though JJJ is still not entirely comfortable with Peter lying to him all those years. He has cordial conversations with Peter and even goes to dinner at their apartment (cue humorous awkward scenes), but still holds some resentment over Peter's deception and sometimes makes this known, but in a much more civil way than he did right after the unmasking. Peter is put off by the photography profession due to him suddenly becoming a target for every lens-shutter in town once the unmasking happens. He ponders whether to go back to teaching or be a research scientist. I myself am a teacher, and as one of the few aspects of JMS's run I really liked, I have him go get his old job as a teacher. Flash is still there as a gym-teacher and calls him "puny" again, since he's, well, brain-damaged and believes the reports that clear Peter as Spider-Man. He buys the line that Peter was a Scarlet-Spider, and while he thinks that's somewhat cool, he sees Peter as something of a poser now. They're still somewhat friendly, but like JJJ, the relationship is strained and occasionally they trade insults. It really depends on their respective moods.
Meanwhile we follow Peter as he tries to connect with little May, but has trouble creating an emotional bond. She wakes up one night to get a glass of water and spots Peter in his Spider-Man suit perched by the window. She runs out screaming in terror. Peter is shocked, because she also doesn't trigger his spider-sense. He believes it's due to the fact that she may be developing some early onset of spider-powers herself. She has painful migraines which Peter thinks may be an emerging spider-sense and he sees her often breaking her toys just by squeezing them too hard. He's worried and wonders whether to take her to Dr Strange or Night-Nurse or Professor X. Someone who could evaluate her and help. MJ suggests that if they become full-blown they may have no choice but to send her to Prof X's mutant academy (I don't know the official name, because I'm not an X-book reader) for her own safety. Peter is vehemently against the idea of sending May away after already missing out on her first years. He has become slightly neurotice and over-protective of her to the point where MJ says he's like the dad in "Finding Nemo" never letting her leave his sight. Peter says Prof X would train her to be a superhero and do battle and he's determined not to see her follow in his dangerous footsteps. He thinks it's a miracle she's alive and doesn't want to take any chance of losing her. This would plant the seeds nicely for Spider-Girl's possible future.
I would bring back some classic villains like Chance, the mercenary hitman who liked to make wagers, Cardiac, Fusion (Jenkins version) and I would have a storyline where the Black Fox (one of my favorite comic-relief villains) is diagnosed with terminal cancer and gets early parole from prison. He's not upset at all about the cancer, because it means he gets out of jail and back to doing what he loves, which is stealing jewels and diamonds. He surprises the prison doctor by letting out a loud, triumphant "whoop" when he finds out two minutes after recieving the dire diagnosis that it means he'll probably get early release. So he hits the streets and starts casing joints again, but is frustrated by being out of practice and not knowing anything about all the new technology and upgraded security that's sprung up since he was sent to jail a few years ago (Marvel time). It's also strongly hinted he may have dementia as he's frequently forgetting what tools to bring and is sloppy with his methods and is frustrated when he sets up an elaborate plan to rob a rich businessman's penthouse, only to see it's been replaced with a TGIFs and that the businessman has been deceased for 15 years. Black Fox's ill-fated return catches up with him after a disastrious and poorly thought-out attempt to break-and-enter the seemingly unoccupied tower of the Kingpin. The absent crime-lord's goons unleash sub-machine gun bullets in a poor, cowering Black Fox's direction (who's taking cover behind the Kingpin's lavish mahogeny desk and repeating a mantra of "oh dear") until Peter hears the noise while swinging and crashes through a window to intervene. After he cleans up the Kingpin's bodyguards and assorted thugs, he carries the Black Fox to a nearby rooftop, sets him down and asks him just what the hell he thinks he's doing. Black Fox just puts out his hands for Peter to web-cuff him and begs to be taken back to jail. "Honestly old chap, an analogue thief has no chance in a digital world. Put me out to pasture with the rat-pack and all the other relics of a better time, and you enjoy your youtubes and facebooks." It would leave Peter midly amused, but perhaps thinking that Fox is right in his own weird way. Sorry, I spent so much time describing that one story, but it's one I'd really love to write.
NOTE 2: Oops. Just tried posting it and it exceeded the character limit, so I have to cut it up into two posts.
http://www.comicboards.com/smb/view.php?rpl=080106215548 (where the original post can be found, reposted below)
(Note: This took me almost four hours to write, but I couldn't stop myself. I hope, despite its length, people look at it, because there's some ideas in here I'm actually proud of)
From here on in, this is what I'd do if I owned the sand-box and didn't have to worry about what anyone else wanted.
This is would I do from here on in:
I would slowly over the course of the next six months show Peter's Brand New World (or is that Brave New World?
After all is said and done and Peter is back in the OMD world, everyone would just remember the pre-OMD world, except Peter, Dr Strange, Mephisto and some cosmic entities. And maybe Franklin Richards as a lark. MJ would have no recollection over her short-lived career as Jackpot. Peter would be torn over the fact he unknowingly committed adultery while in the BND world, would be distraught over the fact Harry Osborn and Aunt May were in his life again only to be cruelly taken away too, and that would create some tension between him and MJ because she has no idea what's wrong with Peter and he won't tell (but not marriage-ending tension thank you very much).
Peter would be thankful for the extra few months he got with Aunt May and he would quietly see her off ala the ending of ASM#400.
Even though Peter was unmasked, his public ID is in some doubt ala Daredevil, due to the Scarlet-Spiders confusing the public in Avengers: The Initiative# 7. JJJ is still convinced that Peter is Spidey due to their encounter in Friendly# 23 though, but has softened and while he still disapproves of Spider-Man he tries to exercise restraint in his editorials. Sometimes an editorial will start with a backhanded compliment towards Spidey and then degenerate into an uncontrolled rant depending on his mood. Cue humorous scenes.
I would let Peter settle back into his routine a bit and would have him leave the Avengers (Spidey's a lone wolf, not a team-player). Peter and MJ would move into an apartment in NYC and Peter while not under the scrutiny he had before, would still be something of a public curiosity with superhero-paparazzi photographing him whenever he leaves his apartment. Peter becomes more protective of MJ, due to what happened to Aunt May and also because he finds the photogs intrusive and painful. This, combined with Peter's schitzoid nature accompanying his memories of Brand New Day, starts to seriously drive MJ away again, until she once again considers seperation... but a twist would bring them back together in the proverbial nick of time! And this is where I officially step from somewhat plausible storylines (if BND did fail) to storylines that would be impossible under almost any editor, but would please me to no end.
MJ is at her breaking point and wants to get away, at least for some time. The readers are thinking "Oh great. Here we go, cheesy seperation part duex." And then the twist comes which brings them back together stronger than ever, for an extremely important reason. During a torrential downpour Peter hears a knock on the door of his apartment. He's surprised because his spider-sense doesn't register at all. Usually he gets a little tingle even if it's the chinese-food delivery guy. As he opens he goes white and lets out a gasp. His deformed clone, Kaine stands there in a drenched trenchcoat, holding the hand of a red-haired toddler who looks exactly like the red-headed girl that Mephisto told him would now never be born. She's around three years old and she's standing there, slightly puzzled but nonplussed looking at a ghost-faced Peter.
MJ is out rehearsing for a play on broadway. Kaine tells Peter what happened. He did rescue baby May from the Scriers all those years ago. He was going to return her straight away, but grew attached when May's first word was "daddy" which pierced the former stone-cold killer right to the bone. It was the first time anyone had showed him genuine love and affection and May started seeing him as her Dad. Eventually he found he could not care for May the way she needed, since it was impossible for him to hold a steady job since he lacked credentials, a social security number and his face looks like a dog's mess. They drifted from city to city, living in shelters. This was no life for the girl he had come to see as a daughter. Even though he loved her, he realized that if he truly loved her he would make the painful sacrifice of giving her back to her rightful parents so she can have the life she deserves.
Peter is extremely thankful and in a state of shock. Kaine says he's returning her on the condition he can visit her on her birthday every year (Halloween day, she was born the day Reilly died) and take her trick or treating, for it's the only time of the year he can go out in public and not terrify people. When Kaine parts ways, little May runs and cries clinging to his trenchcoat and not wanting to stay with Peter. Kaine sadly removes himself from her grip and leaves while telling Peter he's sorry about all the trouble he caused him and Reilly years before, and hopes this is the happiness he's always craved. Little May does not see Peter as her father yet, and Pete knows it will be a long process getting her assimilated, but is so overwhelmed with joy that he doesn't dwell on that long. He hugs her crying tears of joy, while she cries tears of fright borne out of her confusion and anxiety.
I don't need to go into detail about what happens when MJ comes home, but it makes for some dramatic storytelling and represents the first time Peter and MJ have truly been happy in years. They reaffirm their bond and Peter decides to press charges against those tabloids who still claim he's Spider-Man and seeks a restraining order from the photogs so May isn't subjected to that lime-light. He asks JJJ for help in doing this and confides in him, yes he is Spider-Man but is first and foremost Peter Parker, the father of a young girl he loves. JJJ begrudgingly decides to go on the offensive against those tabloids who pursue Peter, even though it goes against his journalistic beliefs that truth should always trump emotion. Peter is thankful and the two bury the hatchet, even though JJJ is still not entirely comfortable with Peter lying to him all those years. He has cordial conversations with Peter and even goes to dinner at their apartment (cue humorous awkward scenes), but still holds some resentment over Peter's deception and sometimes makes this known, but in a much more civil way than he did right after the unmasking. Peter is put off by the photography profession due to him suddenly becoming a target for every lens-shutter in town once the unmasking happens. He ponders whether to go back to teaching or be a research scientist. I myself am a teacher, and as one of the few aspects of JMS's run I really liked, I have him go get his old job as a teacher. Flash is still there as a gym-teacher and calls him "puny" again, since he's, well, brain-damaged and believes the reports that clear Peter as Spider-Man. He buys the line that Peter was a Scarlet-Spider, and while he thinks that's somewhat cool, he sees Peter as something of a poser now. They're still somewhat friendly, but like JJJ, the relationship is strained and occasionally they trade insults. It really depends on their respective moods.
Meanwhile we follow Peter as he tries to connect with little May, but has trouble creating an emotional bond. She wakes up one night to get a glass of water and spots Peter in his Spider-Man suit perched by the window. She runs out screaming in terror. Peter is shocked, because she also doesn't trigger his spider-sense. He believes it's due to the fact that she may be developing some early onset of spider-powers herself. She has painful migraines which Peter thinks may be an emerging spider-sense and he sees her often breaking her toys just by squeezing them too hard. He's worried and wonders whether to take her to Dr Strange or Night-Nurse or Professor X. Someone who could evaluate her and help. MJ suggests that if they become full-blown they may have no choice but to send her to Prof X's mutant academy (I don't know the official name, because I'm not an X-book reader) for her own safety. Peter is vehemently against the idea of sending May away after already missing out on her first years. He has become slightly neurotice and over-protective of her to the point where MJ says he's like the dad in "Finding Nemo" never letting her leave his sight. Peter says Prof X would train her to be a superhero and do battle and he's determined not to see her follow in his dangerous footsteps. He thinks it's a miracle she's alive and doesn't want to take any chance of losing her. This would plant the seeds nicely for Spider-Girl's possible future.
I would bring back some classic villains like Chance, the mercenary hitman who liked to make wagers, Cardiac, Fusion (Jenkins version) and I would have a storyline where the Black Fox (one of my favorite comic-relief villains) is diagnosed with terminal cancer and gets early parole from prison. He's not upset at all about the cancer, because it means he gets out of jail and back to doing what he loves, which is stealing jewels and diamonds. He surprises the prison doctor by letting out a loud, triumphant "whoop" when he finds out two minutes after recieving the dire diagnosis that it means he'll probably get early release. So he hits the streets and starts casing joints again, but is frustrated by being out of practice and not knowing anything about all the new technology and upgraded security that's sprung up since he was sent to jail a few years ago (Marvel time). It's also strongly hinted he may have dementia as he's frequently forgetting what tools to bring and is sloppy with his methods and is frustrated when he sets up an elaborate plan to rob a rich businessman's penthouse, only to see it's been replaced with a TGIFs and that the businessman has been deceased for 15 years. Black Fox's ill-fated return catches up with him after a disastrious and poorly thought-out attempt to break-and-enter the seemingly unoccupied tower of the Kingpin. The absent crime-lord's goons unleash sub-machine gun bullets in a poor, cowering Black Fox's direction (who's taking cover behind the Kingpin's lavish mahogeny desk and repeating a mantra of "oh dear") until Peter hears the noise while swinging and crashes through a window to intervene. After he cleans up the Kingpin's bodyguards and assorted thugs, he carries the Black Fox to a nearby rooftop, sets him down and asks him just what the hell he thinks he's doing. Black Fox just puts out his hands for Peter to web-cuff him and begs to be taken back to jail. "Honestly old chap, an analogue thief has no chance in a digital world. Put me out to pasture with the rat-pack and all the other relics of a better time, and you enjoy your youtubes and facebooks." It would leave Peter midly amused, but perhaps thinking that Fox is right in his own weird way. Sorry, I spent so much time describing that one story, but it's one I'd really love to write.