Daredevil What you DIDNT like from Daredevil Season 1(spoilers abound)

[Adversary]

- Not enough Stick
- Not enough Claire
- Ben's death. (It worked in the show, but now there we can't see the character in other MCU shows/movies.)
- Some parts dragged a little bit too long.
- The final DD costume wasn't very good. (Mostly because of the mask.)

Despite all that it's still my favorite superhero show.

 

[djsunyc]

it was too good. might have ruined all future shows for me in the process.

 

[spider-neil]

it was too good. might have ruined all future shows for me in the process.

It's funny you should say that. Previously, Flash was my favourite superhero show but it pales BADLY in comparison to DD.

 

[halo10]

Death of BU.
Now that Marvel can use Spider-Man characters, it would have been so cool for Ben to join the Bugle. Alas.

Costume.
The black costume is better than the red costume. The red costume was a big let down. A busy MESS of a design.

Fighting.
Thought Daredevil was taking way too much a beating from 'common' thugs but it grew on me.

Stick leaves young Matt.
IMHO Stick leaves way too early in Matt's training. That would mean all the martial arts stuff taught to him by Stick was done in a matter of months, the rest Matt learned himself. Hmm, that's a stretch.

World on fire.
I hate the visual for DD's sight. Thankfully you hardly ever see it.

Other than that, the best superhero TV show 'EVER' by absolute miles.

But are they gonna make it like Stick eventually come back to young Murdock and continue training him ? we were only given a scene where he left Matt (cuz of an emotionally gift ?.. doesn't wanna be a father-figure?) but that still can be set-up to where we see Stick return and train him.

But i'd like to see the training sessions really,really stand out and be impressive ...like Batman Begins/Bloodsport type style)

 

[Parker Wayne]

I didn't like that last fight with Fisk that much. There was too many cuts to the point where it took me out the scene.

 

[Kane52630]

Spoiler

There was no real comic book spectacle in any of the action. No real cinematic action set pieces.

DD got beat too easily and too often.

The excessive violence (and to an extent) profanity was off putting some of the time.

Way too many long conversations. Some that could've been edited as to improve the pace and a few that could've been whacked all together.

The costume really should've came in earlier. There's really no excuse for them holding out so long in this day and age.

Only ONE token shot of his Radar Sense.

No real supervillians to speak of. We got Red Ninja guy,but that's about it.

A lot of my problems can be summed up in their mindset of "Telling,not showing". We don't get to see Matt save the guy that resulted in his blindness,only the aftermath. We don't actually see Battlin' Jack Box in the ring,only the aftermath. The aforementioned lack of radar sense.Even the action was affected by this many times. For example in the last episode where the camera focuses on the crooked cop's face instead of actually letting us see DD in action. (I mean the show is called "Daredevil" right? I'm not wrong for actually wanting to see him in action,right?) I don't know if it's a product of their minimalist framework for the show or working with a TV budget,but they certainly didn't rise above TV's limitations.

I really don't see why people have looked past some of these seemingly obvious flaws. Perhaps once the bloom is off the rose. But, I found most of the show fairly underwhelming.

 

[BattleCat]

There was no real comic book spectacle in any of the action. No real cinematic action set pieces.

DD got beat too easily and too often.

The excessive violence (and to an extent) profanity was off putting some of the time.

Way too many long conversations. Some that could've been edited as to improve the pace and a few that could've been whacked all together.

The costume really should've came in earlier. There's really no excuse for them holding out so long in this day and age.

Only ONE token shot of his Radar Sense.

No real supervillians to speak of. We got Red Ninja guy,but that's about it.

A lot of my problems can be summed up in their mindset of "Telling,not showing". We don't get to see Matt save the guy that resulted in his blindness,only the aftermath. We don't actually see Battlin' Jack Box in the ring,only the aftermath. The aforementioned lack of radar sense.Even the action was affected by this many times. For example in the last episode where the camera focuses on the crooked cop's face instead of actually letting us see DD in action. (I mean the show is called "Daredevil" right? I'm not wrong for actually wanting to see him in action,right?) I don't know if it's a product of their minimalist framework for the show or working with a TV budget,but they certainly didn't rise above TV's limitations.

I really don't see why people have looked past some of these seemingly obvious flaws. Perhaps once the bloom is off the rose. But, I found most of the show fairly underwhelming.

Perhaps people are looking past these "obvious flaws" because they're not flaws to them.

 

[warhorse78]

- Not enough Stick
- Not enough Claire
- Ben's death. (It worked in the show, but now there we can't see the character in other MCU shows/movies.)
- Some parts dragged a little bit too long.
- The final DD costume wasn't very good. (Mostly because of the mask.)

Despite all that it's still my favorite superhero show.

Pretty much this.

Urich's death felt wasted and cliched. Also, when he was on the story, it was awesome, but when they were going in about with his wife and her illness, I was getting really bored and couldn't care less about her. Too much on Vanessa and Wilson's relationship too. I thought I was supposed to be watching an action thriller, not a soap opera.
Karen cried too effing much, I wished they killed her off instead.
Definitely agree with Claire, she was great and had wonderful chemistry with Matt.
And yes, that mask was horrid. I really hope, since they decided to do away with comic book lore with Ben Urich, then I hope they ditch his mask and replace it with the cloth, which actually looked really good on him. The mask made him look stupid. Really, if someone like that came out to try and rescue me with that mask, I'd probably die laughing.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

The owl kinda sucked, and I wasn't crazy about Ben dying so early in the show. Other than that? Nothing.

 

[Katsuro]

There was actually one little thing that kept bugging me. They kept using the phrase "the city" and "Hell's Kitchen" interchangeably, like Hell's Kitchen was it's own city, not a small little neighborhood. Every now and then they'd mention New York City, but a lot of times a character would say "Hell's Kitchen" followed by "the city" in the same sentence as if they were the same.

Does anyone from New York know if people refer to Hell's Kitchen in real life the way they do in the show? I know that in real life Hell's Kitchen is actually highly gentrified and all that, but just in terms of it having it's own identity and being referred to by name so often.

 

[TheVileOne]

I think it's a New York thing. It's like how Spider-Man is from Queens.

 

[Thoix]

it was too good. might have ruined all future shows for me in the process.

It's certainly dropped them all a few pegs from me, especially Arrow.

 

[PeterBenParker]

The death of Urich, hands down.

 

[Flint Marko]

Just started it last night. Foggy is probably the worst actor I've seen in anything recently, it dampens my enjoyment of the show a significant amount.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Just started it last night. Foggy is probably the worst actor I've seen in anything recently, it dampens my enjoyment of the show a significant amount.

You might be the first to come in saying this.
Someone did mention disliking the performance of Foggy's actor, but not the "worst" level.

 

[Flint Marko]

You might be the first to come in saying this.
Someone did mention disliking the performance of Foggy's actor, but not the "worst" level.

I don't know what to tell ya, I watched it with a friend and we both were making comments on it throughout the first episode. I mean he has a pretty significant role in the show, he's very clearly supposed to be the comic relief, but nothing about his performance works or feels natural. He doesn't have the timing or the charm of Kat Dennings (say what you want about her character, her performance was fine on a comedic level), or the acting chops of anyone else in the show. I'm really having a hard time thinking of a performance in anything I've seen recently that's been as distracting as his.

 

[chintai80]

#1 for me to disklike is ben urich dying.
so much more story to tell, and vondie curtis-hall was very good in the role. probably my favorite character in the show so far. those scenes between him and his wife made me want to bawl.

#2 is the end fight between daredevil and kingpin. it wasn't bad, and sort of cool to see both characters fully formed going toe to toe. but at the same time, it felt a bit generic or underwhelming when compared to all the major fight scenes in the show.

#3 the red costume needs some improvement. it looks good in motion and in silhouette. but in some shots it looks odd; improve the cowl and eye area to make it look closer to the comics.

but other than that, i think the show is exceptional. the best thing out of the mcu, imo.

 

[Human Torch]

Perhaps people are looking past these "obvious flaws" because they're not flaws to them.

Actually, a lot of people have agreed on certain points (DD gets beat too easily,scenes drag,etc) But, we're still in the honeymoon phase,so I don't really expect a lot of actual critiquing.

You also have to consider most people have the mindset of "OOOOOh. Realisim!!!" which tends to be a fanboy turn on,for whatever reason.

I don't know about you,but I know that's why I go to Marvel movies-The Realism!

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

I think Torch entirely missed the point of this series.

 

[Human Torch]

I think Torch entirely missed the point of this series.

I'm not trying to sound abrasive,but would you care to enlighten me then? What was "the point of this series"?

 

[Infinight888]

Only ONE token shot of his Radar Sense...

A lot of my problems can be summed up in their mindset of "Telling,not showing"... The aforementioned lack of radar sense.

I don't think the radar sense really applies to what you're talking about. Daredevil doesn't "see". He smells. He hears. You cannot truly translate things like that to a visual medium. What the show did instead was magnify people's heartbeats when he was listening for lies. It increased the sound of a ticking watch for him to follow. When he stand on a rooftop listening for trouble, you hear all the city sounds as he struggles to tune them out.

Personally, I think the show did a much better job at getting us inside his head through those moments than a thousand shots of "radar sense" could have done.

 

[metaphysician]

I think the show was, eventually, pretty clear: Matt doesn't have a "radar sense". What he has is a panoply of different senses, all at high magnitude, which *collectively* add up to something that amounts to "seeing" everything around him. Its not a magic additional sense, its just that when you can hear and smell and feel that well, you have just as much data about where things are around you as vision would give.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

I'm not trying to sound abrasive,but would you care to enlighten me then? What was "the point of this series"?

It was intended to be a darker grounded crime drama rather than standard Marvel formula, the lack of comic book spectacle was entirely intentional.

 

[Silvermoon]

But are they gonna make it like Stick eventually come back to young Murdock and continue training him ? we were only given a scene where he left Matt (cuz of an emotionally gift ?.. doesn't wanna be a father-figure?) but that still can be set-up to where we see Stick return and train him.

But i'd like to see the training sessions really,really stand out and be impressive ...like Batman Begins/Bloodsport type style)

Eh, Matt says in that ep that Stick has been gone 20 years. Matt likely isn't older than the actor playing him (Charlie was 31 when they filmed it) - and may even be a touch younger than him, so even if Stick did return (which I don't think he did), he didn't stay long - not into Matt's teens or later.

As for the topic at hand. I agree with others, the biggest thing I didn't like was that it ended - definitely can't wait for season 2

A few other minor quibbles:

The red suit I wasn't a huge fan of, but I don't think I hate it as much as some do. And what nitpicks I do have with it I'm willing to forgive (at least for now) with the excuse that it's a prototype/Melvin even said that it hadn't finished 'the process'. If it stays exactly as it is, then yeah... I won't like it. But I expect (re: hope) that it will something that sees evolution (as most MCU heroes have had their uniforms see evolution of some sort - even if it's a minor one).

The only other thing was the level of violence just here and there. For the most part I didn't have a problem, but Fisk and the car door, as well as the guy planting his own head on a metal spike were kind of more than I was comfortable with (which was probably the point of those scenes....but still).

 

[Raving Tycoon]

• BU death...was pretty shocked when that happened. Felt like they were going all out in the first season.
• Stick's super quick period training Matt.
• Thought the 2004 film did a better job, with showing the audience how Matt see's the world. The world "on fire" kinda felt like Neo seeing Agents Smith in the Matrix Reloaded. Wish we would have got the "radar" vision instead. It felt like the showrunners were trying to much to be different compared to the film.
• I enjoyed Leland's way of talking to Fisk...straight from the comics, as another poster previously mentioned. Sad we won't be seeing him either anymore. I still don't get why you had to kill 3 pretty good supporting characters off in the first season.
• The child actor...although I really liked that Charlie Cox adapted the way the child actor spoke (and certain mannerisms) to the adult Matt.
• It was a pain to watch Battlin' Jack Murdock...
• Fisk speeches were occasionally hard to watch...kinda was hamming it out here and there...I did like certain moments though...like his flashbacks or him sitting in prison at the end of the final episode. His massive pasture made him intimidating. Guy's huge!
• The actor playing Foggy was also cringe-worthy...at least sometimes...yet I was incredibly happy seeing Matt and Foggy as drunken students strolling around...and Foggy finding out Matt's secret was also quite emotional.
• I wasn't a huge fan of the show's overall passing.
• The main theme took some getting used to, as I really enjoyed the film's theme.

Overall the show was still in many ways a dream come true...I finally got Daredevil the way I always imagined him being in a live action setting. I'm also glad that the showrunners, besides taking influence from Miller's work, decided to take a lot of elements from Bendis' DD stories during the 1999's. I'm really looking forward to another season, and I'm happy it got green-lit. I think DD and the Flash are the best comic adaptions we've ever gotten for live action television maybe even in films (in general) for a beloved character...you can't compare both, because they are really different in many areas.

So my census on DD is 9/10

- Still suck's that Ben was killed off so soon? Are they copying GOT? lol