Daredevil What you DIDNT like from Daredevil Season 1(spoilers abound)

[UltimateWebhead]

I don't know what to tell ya, I watched it with a friend and we both were making comments on it throughout the first episode. I mean he has a pretty significant role in the show, he's very clearly supposed to be the comic relief, but nothing about his performance works or feels natural. He doesn't have the timing or the charm of Kat Dennings (say what you want about her character, her performance was fine on a comedic level), or the acting chops of anyone else in the show. I'm really having a hard time thinking of a performance in anything I've seen recently that's been as distracting as his.

I am in agreement with you. This show is not perfect but it's still one of the best outings for Marvel thus far in the MCU. I have some minor issues or quibbles with Daredevil but my biggest complaint or critique rather, is that of Elden Henson as Foggy. His acting is noticeably beneath the bar set by the other actors and their performances thus far. IMO his timing and delivery of his lines is not as solid as the other performers in this show. It has nothing to do with him visually. Chops aside though there is something else I am not fond of with Elden. Maybe it's his voice, his mannerisms or maybe just a general lack of chemistry with the other actors that doesn't feel very natural. It does feel forced the majority of the time.

 

[Mr.T]

Just started it last night. Foggy is probably the worst actor I've seen in anything recently, it dampens my enjoyment of the show a significant amount.

I mentioned the same thing in another post, although not as harsh.
He definitely grows into the role as the show goes on. He gets much better and appears more comfortable as Foggy.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

I liked Foggy, alot. Fav-Foggy was better though, he had more memorable lines.

"I take Salsa on the weekend, but I don't shake my ass to pay the phone bill!"

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

I really don't have anything to say about bad things with this show, I guess if I had to pick one it we be the tonal shift in the last few episodes but since it really makes sense with the story I can't really get mad about it. I just wanted more badass fight scenes and the end one with Fisk more than made up for it

 

[Boy Scout]

There wasn't a lot.

1) Wilson and Vanessa's relationship was pretty rushed.

2) A lot of the stuff Matt was able to do was over-the-top and inherently unbelievable, considering the fact that he doesn't actually have superpowers. I eventually learned to just go with it, but it did bug me.

3) I'm probably only saying this because of what's happening to Felicity over on Arrow, but I worry that Karen was made to cry just a little too much. I thought she was a very strong character overall, though.

4) The black suit looked better than the red one.

All nitpicks. The series, as it is, is fantastic.

 

[warhorse78]

There wasn't a lot.

1) Wilson and Vanessa's relationship was pretty rushed.

2) A lot of the stuff Matt was able to do was over-the-top and inherently unbelievable, considering the fact that he doesn't actually have superpowers. I eventually learned to just go with it, but it did bug me.

3) I'm probably only saying this because of what's happening to Felicity over on Arrow, but I worry that Karen was made to cry just a little too much. I thought she was a very strong character overall, though.

4) The black suit looked better than the red one.

All nitpicks. The series, as it is, is fantastic.

I know nothing about Daredevil comic book mythos, but I thought that there was something special about Matt, which is why Stick came looking for him. I also thought there was a mention that while the radioactive material took his sight, it enhanced his other senses, so it's possible it also enhanced his human strength and toughness. They already talked about how meditation heals him faster, but there could be more to this meditation that what we know of. But yeah, for now I'm leaning that the radioactive stuff enhanced him from a normal human being.

 

[BattleCat]

it was too good. might have ruined all future shows for me in the process.

This. Especially when it comes to Arrow. Flat out bad.

 

[WBwins]

There was no real comic book spectacle in any of the action. No real cinematic action set pieces.

DD got beat too easily and too often.

The excessive violence (and to an extent) profanity was off putting some of the time.

Way too many long conversations. Some that could've been edited as to improve the pace and a few that could've been whacked all together.

The costume really should've came in earlier. There's really no excuse for them holding out so long in this day and age.

Agree with all of this.Especially the costume.He should have gotten it Midseason Max.

 

[Boy Scout]

I know nothing about Daredevil comic book mythos, but I thought that there was something special about Matt, which is why Stick came looking for him. I also thought there was a mention that while the radioactive material took his sight, it enhanced his other senses, so it's possible it also enhanced his human strength and toughness. They already talked about how meditation heals him faster, but there could be more to this meditation that what we know of. But yeah, for now I'm leaning that the radioactive stuff enhanced him from a normal human being.

Just to be clear, I was referring specifically to the advantages Matt was granted because of his accident. For a man who doesn't possess superpowers, he can do a lot of impossible ****. His situational awareness alone is enough to challenge my suspension of disbelief. Why is this man blind if it doesn't inconvenience his activities in any noticeable way?

However, I'm aware that this is something that has literally decades of precedence in the source material. It's one of those things that you either accept or you don't. I chose to accept it, and I don't even think of it as a major flaw. In my mind, it's a nitpick.

 

[Rowsdower!]

This. Especially when it comes to Arrow. Flat out bad.

Comparing Daredevil to Arrow is like comparing a $500 steak dinner with a Twinkie.

 

[warhorse78]

Just to be clear, I was referring specifically to the advantages Matt was granted because of his accident. For a man who doesn't possess superpowers, he can do a lot of impossible ****. His situational awareness alone is enough to challenge my suspension of disbelief. Why is this man blind if it doesn't inconvenience his activities in any noticeable way?

However, I'm aware that this is something that has literally decades of precedence in the source material. It's one of those things that you either accept or you don't. I chose to accept it, and I don't even think of it as a major flaw. In my mind, it's a nitpick.

What part of him getting hit by a radioactive substance do you not understand? Peter Parker gets bit by a radioactive spider, look what happens, the Ninja Turtles get hit by radioactive ooze, look what happened. Once he got hit with that stuff, he was no longer a typical blind man.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

I think the only thing I could complain about is the lack of courtroom scenes/cases for Nelson and Murdock. I would've liked a bit more of the legal team in action.

That and Ben Urich dying, but only because of how big a part he plays in DD's and Spidey's world. Although it definitely did make an impression because you really felt, no way can Ben die, there's got to be a way out of this, I kept waiting for the last minute save or some way for him to get out of it.

The timing of getting the suit didn't really bother me, especially because getting the suit was by going after someone Fisk knew, he didn't build it himself. The final suit looked fine to me, I think it might've just been jarring since we had the black suit that did work so well for so long. The suit almost makes the show more superhero than heightened reality that we had, I think that might also be what throws some people with it.

 

[warhorse78]

I think the only thing I could complain about is the lack of courtroom scenes/cases for Nelson and Murdock. I would've liked a bit more of the legal team in action.

That and Ben Urich dying, but only because of how big a part he plays in DD's and Spidey's world. Although it definitely did make an impression because you really felt, no way can Ben die, there's got to be a way out of this, I kept waiting for the last minute save or some way for him to get out of it.

The timing of getting the suit didn't really bother me, especially because getting the suit was by going after someone Fisk knew, he didn't build it himself. The final suit looked fine to me, I think it might've just been jarring since we had the black suit that did work so well for so long. The suit almost makes the show more superhero than heightened reality that we had, I think that might also be what throws some people with it.

I'm starting to wonder if Ben is really dead. Heck, we saw Nick Fury on a slab in TWS, and he ended up being alive in the end.

 

[Boy Scout]

What part of him getting hit by a radioactive substance do you not understand?

The only thing I don't understand is your defensive tone. Try talking to me like an adult next time. Thanks.

 

[chintai80]

Comparing Daredevil to Arrow is like comparing a $500 steak dinner with a Twinkie.

haha. a twinkie can taste good too! it's just a tasty snack!

netflix = ruth chris steakhouse
cw network = mcdonalds

both taste good, but at different levels.

 

[Human Torch]

It was intended to be a darker grounded crime drama rather than standard Marvel formula, the lack of comic book spectacle was entirely intentional.

The thing I don't understand is why you can't make it "dark" and still have some compelling action? It's very unlike Marvel to try and alter a comic book character and squeeze the concept into a form that betrays it's roots.

 

[SlamAdams]

I felt the action was very compelling. The hallway fight scene might be the best action sequence in the whole MCU

 

[Human Torch]

I think the show was, eventually, pretty clear: Matt doesn't have a "radar sense". What he has is a panoply of different senses, all at high magnitude, which *collectively* add up to something that amounts to "seeing" everything around him. Its not a magic additional sense, its just that when you can hear and smell and feel that well, you have just as much data about where things are around you as vision would give.

That might've been the case if they didn't actually show what he "sees". (albeit briefly) In any case DD has always been able to "see" in his own interesting way.

 

[Human Torch]

I felt the action was very compelling. The hallway fight scene might be the best action sequence in the whole MCU

The fights were ok. I'm only talking about doing some decent acrobatics. DD is a very acrobatic character and we got none of that here.

I mean,do I want to see a 10 minute scene of DD leaping on a moving car from a roof top and beating the bad guys, or 10 minutes of Kingpin trying to awkwardly carry a conversation in Chinese with a 70 year old woman?

The show just wasn't quite what I was hoping for.

 

[SlamAdams]

The fights were ok. I'm only talking about doing some decent acrobatics. DD is a very acrobatic character and we got none of that here.

I mean,do I want to see a 10 minute scene of DD leaping on a moving car from a roof top and beating the bad guys, or 10 minutes of Kingpin trying to awkwardly carry a conversation in Chinese with a 70 year old woman?

The show just wasn't quite what I was hoping for.

I disagree. DD didn't do any spider-man swinging or defy gravity, but I thought he had plenty of acrobatics.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

The thing I don't understand is why you can't make it "dark" and still have some compelling action? It's very unlike Marvel to try and alter a comic book character and squeeze the concept into a form that betrays it's roots.

I personally thought the action was fine. I don't understand what constitutes compelling action in your book. If you were expecting the third act of the Avengers on a TV budget then I don't know what to tell you. Also the complaints about Matt getting his ass kicked too much are ridiculous, these are his early days, not to mention the fact he's ****ing blind.

 

[Human Torch]

I personally thought the action was fine. I don't understand what constitutes compelling action in your book. If you were expecting the third act of the Avengers on a TV budget then I don't know what to tell you. Also the complaints about Matt getting his ass kicked too much are ridiculous, these are his early days, not to mention the fact he's ****ing blind.

For all the crap Arrow gets,there still is some decent spectacle. Car chases,leaping/swinging,etc. I expected at least something on that level.

I mean, the Dark Knight Trilogy was "grounded" as well,but it still worked as a "comic book movie". It felt like here,they were trying too hard to hide from what they are-a comic book show. And like I said that's an odd choice coming from Marvel.

 

[Joe Von Zombie]

For all the crap Arrow gets,there still is some decent spectacle. Car chases,leaping/swinging,etc. I expected at least something on that level.

I mean, the Dark Knight Trilogy was "grounded" as well,but it still worked as a "comic book movie". It felt like here,they were trying too hard to hide from what they are-a comic book show. And like I said that's an odd choice coming from Marvel.

fair enough.

 

[SlamAdams]

For all the crap Arrow gets,there still is some decent spectacle. Car chases,leaping/swinging,etc. I expected at least something on that level.

I mean, the Dark Knight Trilogy was "grounded" as well,but it still worked as a "comic book movie". It felt like here,they were trying too hard to hide from what they are-a comic book show. And like I said that's an odd choice coming from Marvel.

To be fair, I don't remember the stunt work in season 1 of Arrow to be very memorable. I seem to remeber season 2 was a huge improvement

 

[Human Torch]

To be fair, I don't remember the stunt work in season 1 of Arrow to be very memorable. I seem to remeber season 2 was a huge improvement

Yes,that's very true.

I guess my expectations were a little too high. But I think I'm also a bit concerned that Marvel isn't going to outdo itself next season,given the across the board praise the series has gotten. It's much easier to say "Well,people liked it.Give 'em more of the same." So I really hope they ramp up the action and perhaps give us a little more color with the villains, (Gladiator seems to be a given,possibly a more accurate Owl,so it might happen) and not use this exact same format next season.