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[TheVelvetOnion]

Believe it or not there is a huge statistic of Comic book fans that doesnt know the different between a Mutant and a Mutate?

I had a conversation recently with a fellow Marvel comics fan and we were discussing Cerebro... now for it to work in the way Xavier would use it, he singles out the mutant gene... but there would be a problem... a mutant gene as aposed to a mutated gene would be different. Even though its over mutation is the same, a mutant gene is natural evolution where mutate gene is a gene that was once normal but changed via other means...

Now think of this would Professor Xavier detect a character like The Hulk?

It got me thinking about X-Men based characters that could fool Professor Xavier when using Cerebro to locate mutants...

Mr.Sinister is a Mutate not a Mutant, he was normal and apocalypse changed his DNA...

So my question is this, how does sentinals process the difference between Mutant or Mutate when really they only go on visual appearance and activity not genetics..

 

[danoyse]

And this has what to do with the Wolverine movie, exactly?

 

[TNC9852002]

Oh c'mon, danoyse, don't go all moddy on him..

Sentinel = comics, appeared in X3, starring Hugh Jackman as Wolverine.

There's SOME connection..

Now, with that said, this must be the STRANGEST X-Men related question I've heard in a long time. What I can conclude is that Sentinels have changed frequently through the incarnations and I wouldn't assume automatically that they are able to detect mutants ONLY by what they look like or their activity, especially not the more recent Sentinels.

-TNC

 

[danoyse]

Oh c'mon, danoyse, don't go all moddy on him..

Sentinel = comics, appeared in X3, starring Hugh Jackman as Wolverine.

There's SOME connection..

Now, with that said, this must be the STRANGEST X-Men related question I've heard in a long time. What I can conclude is that Sentinels have changed frequently through the incarnations and I wouldn't assume automatically that they are able to detect mutants ONLY by what they look like or their activity, especially not the more recent Sentinels.

-TNC

I wasn't being moddy...I was just honestly confused.

 

[gkokujin]

So my question is this, how does sentinals process the difference between Mutant or Mutate when really they only go on visual appearance and activity not genetics..

Sentinels scan for the Xgene. they also can scan for "mutates" if told to do so. hence Days of Future Past

 

[November Rain]

yeah, i thought there was a specific xgene which caused mutations and different powers depending on where it originally starts to mutate from.

mutates don't necessarily carry that gene but could carry some other form of power regulator.

Wasn't there a story in spiderman before where it choose whether to take down spidey but his unborn daughter carried the xgene so they started chasing her?

 

[The Original Bamfer]

And this has what to do with the Wolverine movie, exactly?

It doesn't.

 

[Havok83]

Mutants are born with powers. Mutates are manufactured. For example, the mutates in the Savage Land were regularly humans who were genetically altered by Magneto. They are artificial mutants, if you want to look at it like that. Polaris used to be a mutant, but now she's a mutate thanks to M-day and Apocalypse's messing with her

Now think of this would Professor Xavier detect a character like The Hulk?

It got me thinking about X-Men based characters that could fool Professor Xavier when using Cerebro to locate mutants...

Cerebro isnt only capable of finding mutant genes. All the system does is help amplify Xavier's own telepathy and he can search for anyone with it. The Hulk or anyone else wouldnt be a problem

So my question is this, how does sentinals process the difference between Mutant or Mutate when really they only go on visual appearance and activity not genetics

There have been several different models of sentinels. The original sentinels didnt discriminate between natural mutant genes and later mutated genes. Its all the same to them. Since then, other versions were made, some to specifically attack mutants, some to attack any being with powers, etc... In Onslaught, we saw Sentinels attack Spider-man, Avengers and Green Goblin.

 

[TheVelvetOnion]

Hmmm... so now im going to throw another spanner into the thought process.... We have Mutants, We have Mutates... What about they Mythologicals and The Aliens...

Now i guess that Sentinals would not be able to see the difference between Mutants and Aliens. Why? well Mutants are born with X-Gene, but any scientist knows an X-Gene is really any genetic code that is different from the normal human genetic code. As Aliens are a difference species but usually take a human form, a sentinal would only process an Alien Speices because its DNA would be simular to a mutants DNA where it would not match the normal, both mutants and aliens are born that way so they are the same.

But then we come to the Mythologicals and for them i mean, Thor, Loki, Odin... Blackheart, Mephisto, Ghost Rider, Dr.Strange and Juggernaut. There gift are that of ancient mystical powers... Say the sentinal scans the dna... Mystical powers dont show up as they are bestode by curses or spells or however you wish to look at it. So they would be NORMAL! to a sentinal that is... So in theory if Sentinalsl were to attack then Thor, Ghost Rider, Dr.Strange and The Juggernaut would be the ideal people to fight them....


ANY THE QUESTION GOES FULL CYCLE TO WHY THIS IS RELATED TO WOLVERINE...

Wolverine is a mutant, his mutant gift is that of a heightend healing factor... the healing factor would only come into play when wolverines body is hurt and is in need of healing... this means that his mutant gene lays dormant until needed... because a healing factor reverts all cells to correct human form then in theory when wolverine is fully healed a sentinal would view him no more than a Human...

But what about his claws? well that is a two part question... You see he has bone claws and then his body was laced with adimantium... now if Wolverine had stayed pre-adminatium a sentinal would pick up that he is a mutant.... However and here is the best bit....

Wolverines claws are adminatium laced so is every bone in his body, now whats the difference between Iron Man and Wolverine? essentially nothing? a sentinal would scan the metal on his bones nothing more than that of a hip replacement... the claws slaced with admantium they wouldnt know there is bone there because there scanning the body for DNA so the claws show up as just additions to the body not mutation... his healing factor covers his healing factor gene so in theory what do we have...

Wolverine, designed to take down Sentinals? was this Weapon X's real reason to lace his bones with admantium?

Sorry i had to put this question as a two parter so it got you thinking about the different types of mutants out there...

 

[Manic]

When a mutant gene is dormant, it means the mutant doesn't have any powers at all. It's like when Storm lost her powers back in the 80s. Wolverine's mutant gene is always active, even if he's not using his healing powers. A sentinel will always be able to detect him.

Also, there's a possibility that Wolverine's healing powers are always working, even when he's not recovering from an injury. His healing power slows down his aging process (remember, he's well over 100 years old in the comics), and it's possible that his healing power is working all the time by repairing the natural wear and tear of aging.

 

[Jango X]

So my question is this, how does sentinals process the difference between Mutant or Mutate when really they only go on visual appearance and activity not genetics..

Uhm, I think you're confused. As far as I know Sentinels dont judge who's a mutant and who's not just by apearance and/or seeing someone use their powers. They actually detect the x-gene.

 

[storyteller]

Spiderman can walk right past a sentinel. Mutants cant. Also a Mutate doesnt not always need to have been changed after birth. They can be part of genetics. Its just these people do not gain their abilities via an X-gene.

 

[OutcryX]

mutates aren't born. are they? i mean their name describes what they are..MUTATES, meaning they were normal but now are mutated...whatever. i dont really care.

so are Captain America, Hulk, the Fantastic Four, Spiderman and every other superhero in the MU that isnt an Alien or robot, or cyborg or mutant or technology based at all...a mutatE?

 

[TheVelvetOnion]

Mutants had the mutant gene at birth, through puberty the gene can be activated causing mutation. They would from birth be classed as a mutant but not necessarly have powers until there older.

Mutate is any normal person who underwent experiment which gave them there power. So yeah, cap america

 

[Manic]

Also a Mutate doesnt not always need to have been changed after birth.

That is the most confusing sentence I have ever read in my life.