Where Are the Black Superhero Movies?

[CConn]

That was hardly a crime.

I said the same thing about beastiality.

 

[Red Mask]

What? So saying DC's black heroes won't get their own title movies is the same as committing bestiality?

 

[CConn]

And that Bob Dole should've been president.

 

[tamron]

Amen!!! Why didn't the studio just go with the Rock or LL?? Luke Cage is going to make about 20 million domestically, I'd be surprised if it passes 30 million at the box office.

Truth be told, I don't really want them for Cage either, even though I really like the Rock. I could live with either of them more than Tyrese, though. I really think Henry Simmons (NYPD Blue) is the best choice for Cage.

 

[DirtyHARRY]

I just pray that IF Singleton does make Luke Cage that he doesn't screw it up like he did "Shaft." I just don't think the guy is much of a talent. I predict sub-Daredevil boxoffice and a quick fade to DVD. I hope not, but what I've seen of this dude's work does not inspire confidence.

-DH

 

[Red Mask]

And that Bob Dole should've been president.

You're not making any sense.

 

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[CConn]

You're not making any sense.

I have low blood sugar.

 

[Red Mask]

I have low blood sugar.

Looks like somebody zapped you into a rugrat.

 

[deemar325]

If done properly, I believe so too...

Out of all of DC's Black heroes his is the most relateably tragic and inspiring. He's unique in that he's not some thug/rapper type who would be played by Ludachris or DMX, it'll take a really good actor maybe Blair Underwood to pull it off. And most of all although he's technically a legacy hero, he's not some 'Johnny come lately, taken under the wing of some awe inspiring white hero' like so many other black heroes. He's his own man and who just related to the history the original Mr.Terrific.

 

[Nightwing 52]

Out of all of DC's Black heroes his is the most relateably tragic and inspiring. He's unique in that he's not some thug/rapper type who would be played by Ludachris or DMX, it'll take a really good actor maybe Blair Underwood to pull it off. And most of all although he's technically a legacy hero, he's not some 'Johnny come lately, taken under the wing of some awe inspiring white hero' like so many other black heroes. He's his own man and who just related to the history the original Mr.Terrific.

I agree, very well said. I think he has alot of potential for his own film, even though he doesn't have his own comic series, but he's part of a well known super team aka the Justice Society of America. Blair Underwood IMO would also play Terrific very well, but if I were to go for someone a bit younger, I'd go with Michael Jai White. Even though he played Spawn in Spawn, I honestly think he'd be great. Some might disagree on that though.

 

[Sentinel X]

Its not only blacks, its non-whites in general.Look in a comic book, its rare to find an Asian hero,Indian hero,Hispanic heros, or Bi-racial heroes...Its the
21st century...youd think by now major comic book companies would show that heroes come in all colors..wrong.

 

[phoenixstorm]

Has anyone checked this out?

http://www.gettosake.com/

 

[deemar325]

I agree, very well said. I think he has alot of potential for his own film, even though he doesn't have his own comic series, but he's part of a well known super team aka the Justice Society of America. Blair Underwood IMO would also play Terrific very well, but if I were to go for someone a bit younger, I'd go with Michael Jai White. Even though he played Spawn in Spawn, I honestly think he'd be great. Some might disagree on that though.

Thank you, I really don't want to see 50-cent in that movie.

I'm so tired of rappers in movies (exceptions being Ice Cube and Ludacris.)

 

[deemar325]

Has anyone checked this out?

http://www.gettosake.com/

That's pretty cool.

 

[Nightwing 52]

Thank you, I really don't want to see 50-cent in that movie.

I'm so tired of rappers in movies (exceptions being Ice Cube and Ludacris.)

Tyrese is a rapper I believe, would you except him if he got the role of Luke Cage?

 

[deemar325]

^ Tyrese is a R&B singer (really talented one at that.)

 

[WATCHMAN86]

im black and one day i'll write a character that isn't just a tolken minority hero but one that actually would be one you want read. i think that writers just don't take the task of writng for ethnic characters as seriously as they would a white hero like bats supes etc.. not to complain but thats just the way things are i guess

 

[tamron]

I can't totally rail on the writers. It's easy to write from your perspective. But once you step outside it, its a crapshoot. There are very few minority writers in comics, and the majority population don't know what it's like to be a minority, so they, consciously or subconsciously lean on stereotypes when writing a minority character, if for no other reason, to give the character a sense of credibility as a minority. And writing a minority character as though he's a white one raises whole new issues. It's a tricky thing to navigate.

 

[deemar325]

^ I don't see how you can't just write a character period regardless of the race. I think if you just hang around and have friends of another race use your experience and or call your black/latino whatever friend up and use them as a sounding board.

If I'm gonna write about a Mexican character, I'm gonna go over it with my girlfriend or her brother because it's right there. My subject or person who can relate that experience of being latino is a phone call away so writers shouldn't be afraid to ask there black buddy or chinese pal what's the deal.

 

[Puñietas]

I just pray that IF Singleton does make Luke Cage that he doesn't screw it up like he did "Shaft." I just don't think the guy is much of a talent. I predict sub-Daredevil boxoffice and a quick fade to DVD. I hope not, but what I've seen of this dude's work does not inspire confidence.

-DH

Ummm, DD did pretty well at the box office. Considering a B grade hero not many know who he is

Domestic: $102,543,518 57.2%+ Foreign: $76,636,200 42.8%= Worldwide: $179,179,718

 

[tamron]

^ I don't see how you can't just write a character period regardless of the race. I think if you just hang around and have friends of another race use your experience and or call your black/latino whatever friend up and use them as a sounding board.

If I'm gonna write about a Mexican character, I'm gonna go over it with my girlfriend or her brother because it's right there. My subject or person who can relate that experience of being latino is a phone call away so writers shouldn't be afraid to ask there black buddy or chinese pal what's the deal.

See you're thinking about in your perspective. Say you're not a minnority. Say you don't have those minority friends. Say you've never really interacted with minorities. Believe iit or not, people live their lives that way, with the only window into that world being what they see and hear in popular media. And even great writers have trouble writing characters not like themselves. For example, David Mamet is notorious for his sometimes demeaning portrayal of females. I'm not exonerating the lack of minority presence and subpar writing of minorities in comics, but I see why that problem exists.

You also get into the question of what is an 'authentic' minority portrayal. I've seen people rag on Luke Cage for being a stereotypical thug, but when John Henry irons was Steel, some said he acted stiff, educated, too 'white'. I know black people who've been on the streets, and black people with medical degrees, what makes one character more "authentic" than the other? How it's interpreted is all based on perspective, and you simply cannot please everyone, b/c your experiences don't match everyone elses. Even if you call that friend, what make his experience more "authentic" then the one you would create? Somewhere out there, there is someone who can relate to what they've written, but it may not jibe with you.

Too top it off, comics are sales driven. How do books with minority leads fare? As well regarded as Priest's Black Panther run was by critics and fans, it struggled with sales. The Crew didn't get off the ground. Ditto for Captain America and Falcon. And War Machine. Good writing or not, if the characters don't sell, what incentive is there to create or develop minority heroes?

 

[deemar325]

^ I hear ya man, I'm saying at least interacting with other people and having some sort of relationship with those not of your own background is a start.

I'm not Mexican, but I got a pretty good insight into what it's like being Mexican and I got 18yrs to raise my son who's mixed and he's gonna have to sides to deal with his black and latino side.

 

[tzarinna]

Truth be told, I don't really want them for Cage either, even though I really like the Rock. I could live with either of them more than Tyrese, though. I really think Henry Simmons (NYPD Blue) is the best choice for Cage.

That's hot,more please.

 

[deemar325]

^ It's like looking in a mirror!