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Where Is Gambit, Bishop, Cable, & Apocolyspe (sp) In This Movie?!?!?

Jplaya2023 said:
movies comic's wherever

human torch can turn into fire and use it at his dispense. Pyro can manipulate fire but doenst have a fire body

well if its the movies its funny how pyro appeared on screen before the human torch, how can that make pyro a copy of human torch.
 
It would be nice to see Bishop as a cop who 'outs' himself as a mutant when he uses his power to defend himself from a mutant attack, when Magneto and the others are causing chaos in X3.

The best suggestion for Bishop was made on this forum, where he was adapted into a police officer living in the X-Men's current time, who has the power to absorb energy (including chronal energy = time). This time absorption would give him flashes of the future, of Phoenix, and maybe even of events beyond that.
 
kol_lover said:
well if its the movies its funny how pyro appeared on screen before the human torch, how can that make pyro a copy of human torch.

then timeline then not movies sorry
 
They'll no doubt play down the role of Pyro now. His character needs inclusion after he was shown leaving with Magneto at the end of X2. He will probably die during some kind of sacrifice.
 
BMM said:
Apocalypse, Bishop, Cable, and their overly contrived plotlines, are by the wayside where they belong. Their character arcs are ridiculous in the comics, let alone in the movies. I'm not even going to touch Onslaught . . . and the first two X-Men movies are great. Without them, we wouldn't be discussing the possibility of future X-films.


the big key is how will the upcoming Xmen film do without the
great Bryan Singer directing it .

as we all saw with the Hulk - the acting director does make
a HUGE difference in how the film will turn out.

i tend to agree that Bishop, Cable, Onslaught are not suited for Xmen films
just yet.

more traditional characters like Juggernaut Gambit and Beast would attract
more but be ideal for the next stage in the Xmen era .

one of my greatest concerns is the increased role of Storm ( Halle Berry)
since she previously demanded more camera time and more money
- how much will that impact the appearances of Gambit and others ? .......

www.xmenfilms.net has a note of what characters will be in this Xmen
film and who is NOT expected to return ( ala nightcrawler )


:xmen:
 
of course the director makes a ****ing difference in the movie.
 
Sagattarius said:
the big key is how will the upcoming Xmen film do without the
great Bryan Singer directing it .

as we all saw with the Hulk - the acting director does make
a HUGE difference in how the film will turn out.

i tend to agree that Bishop, Cable, Onslaught are not suited for Xmen films
just yet.

more traditional characters like Juggernaut Gambit and Beast would attract
more but be ideal for the next stage in the Xmen era .

one of my greatest concerns is the increased role of Storm ( Halle Berry)
since she previously demanded more camera time and more money
- how much will that impact the appearances of Gambit and others ? .......

www.xmenfilms.net has a note of what characters will be in this Xmen
film and who is NOT expected to return ( ala nightcrawler )


:xmen:

I really do wish Bryan Singer was still helming X-Men. I would have liked for him to have finished what he started, particularly because I think he has done a great job . . . I think too many fans underestimate the intelligence with which he approached the franchise and his vision for future films. For instance, a vast majority of fans complain of Rogue not being more like she was in the late 80s and early 90s run of the comics. I think Singer's approach to Rogue is excellent. I recently watched X-Men and X2 again, and you can notice the increase in Rogue's independence and maturity (not to mention she is becoming sexier with each film), which parellels the character's gradual evolution in the comics. I also was incredibly excited about his possible two part movie (essentially an X-Men 3 & 4, in which he planned on including many other things--i.e. more Colossus, Gambit, Phoenix, possibly sentinels, etc.).

Unfortunately, Singer is gone, and there is nothing that can be done about it. Hopefully, X3 can withstand the notion of what could have been. I'm hoping for the best.
 
X-Maniac said:
Gambit may well have a part anyway.

No he won't. He role will be no greater than Kitty Pryde's was in X-Men or X2... hardly satisfying... :mad: :(
 
BMM said:
I really do wish Bryan Singer was still helming X-Men. I would have liked for him to have finished what he started, particularly because I think he has done a great job . . . I think too many fans underestimate the intelligence with which he approached the franchise and his vision for future films. For instance, a vast majority of fans complain of Rogue not being more like she was in the late 80s and early 90s run of the comics. I think Singer's approach to Rogue is excellent. I recently watched X-Men and X2 again, and you can notice the increase in Rogue's independence and maturity (not to mention she is becoming sexier with each film), which parellels the character's gradual evolution in the comics. I also was incredibly excited about his possible two part movie (essentially an X-Men 3 & 4, in which he planned on including many other things--i.e. more Colossus, Gambit, Phoenix, possibly sentinels, etc.).

Unfortunately, Singer is gone, and there is nothing that can be done about it. Hopefully, X3 can withstand the notion of what could have been. I'm hoping for the best.

I agree completely.

I believe that under Singer, we would have had Sentinels. He wanted them for X2, but had to cut them out because he couldn't get them the way they should be. I'm truly interested to see what Singer would have done to close out the franchise.
 
Well, Singer is doing Superman Returns as a sequel to Superman 1&2 (ignoring 3&4). Maybe in the Future Singer can come back and do his X Men Returns or whatever, ignoring X3.
 
I agree, that I'd like to see Bishop in the movies, and maybe even Mr. Sinister or Apocalypse (preferabbly Mr. Sinister). However, I don't think that they belong in the original trilogy.

Although, should there ever be an X-Men 4 (which I highly doubt there ever will be), Mr. Sinister could work out pretty well. On his quest for the "perfect genes", we could see him whipe out the Morlocks, and then go after Scott Summers and the newly reemerged and more powerful Jean Grey. Gambit's history could be hinted at (tho it probably wouldn't be the mutant massacre, if it were to happen in this movie, tho it could possibly still work out), and just a grande old time could be had at the movies.

The time travel with Bishop wouldn't be all too far fetched, as we've seen good time traveling use in the Terminator series.

But, I don't think we'll get anything beyond X-Men 3, which I almost prefer with the way things are going this time around. I'd rather just see X-Men 3 bring to all things, and ending, and if more movies come later, so be it. But I don't want anymore cliffhanger endings in which I'll have to wait another 3 years at least to get a resolution to.
 
jpsketch said:
Well, Singer is doing Superman Returns as a sequel to Superman 1&2 (ignoring 3&4). Maybe in the Future Singer can come back and do his X Men Returns or whatever, ignoring X3.

Oh really? I thought Superman Returns was a restart, like Batman Begins or The Punisher.
 
Some see it as a sequel to 1&2, while other see it as a continuation of Smallville. Its very confusing.
 
jpsketch said:
Well, Singer is doing Superman Returns as a sequel to Superman 1&2 (ignoring 3&4). Maybe in the Future Singer can come back and do his X Men Returns or whatever, ignoring X3.

Haha. Good point.
 
Nell2ThaIzzay said:
No he won't. He role will be no greater than Kitty Pryde's was in X-Men or X2... hardly satisfying... :mad: :(

Keep the faith, dear. I still believe his role-size will be between X1 Iceman and Mystique. They need to introduce him properly if they want to do X4... yes, I still believe there's gonna be a X4.

I am either a Believer or a Naïve... :p
 
maybe both at the same time!! wouldn't that be something

i think if Gambit is in X3 he's definitely going to have a small role, i do agree with Moidemoiselle that if he's going to be in it he'll be Iceman/Mystique X1 sized role. which wouldn't be all that bad, he might only have one line but people would remember him
 
Nell2ThaIzzay said:
No he won't. He role will be no greater than Kitty Pryde's was in X-Men or X2... hardly satisfying... :mad: :(

Nell, I think he'll probably have a Piotr size role from X2, maybe a line or two.

The problem at the moment seems to be finding an actor to carry the small part, remember what Avid said, we need to find some one whos gonna be able to carry it in a few years time, to me that sounds like a spinoff.

Anyone agree? or is it just me being very hopeful again?
 
might be a spinoff, we still dont know for sure what the the third X spinoff is going to be for sure. so far we've only gotten a rumor, but nothing concrete.

or they could be planning a quadrilogy, instead of the trilogy we've come to suspect these movies were going to be, and have Gambit be a bigger player in the fourth film. just some ideas to toss around...
 
yeah, theyll probably give us sumthing ****ty like a cable spinoff
 
newwaveboy87 said:
maybe both at the same time!! wouldn't that be something

i think if Gambit is in X3 he's definitely going to have a small role, i do agree with Moidemoiselle that if he's going to be in it he'll be Iceman/Mystique X1 sized role. which wouldn't be all that bad, he might only have one line but people would remember him

I'd be happy with that... as long as we got a glimpse of his personality, and at least 1 action scene, but hopefully 2 (one with his bow staff and martial arts, and one where he's gotta use his mutant powers)
 
kol_lover said:
Nell, I think he'll probably have a Piotr size role from X2, maybe a line or two.

The problem at the moment seems to be finding an actor to carry the small part, remember what Avid said, we need to find some one whos gonna be able to carry it in a few years time, to me that sounds like a spinoff.

Anyone agree? or is it just me being very hopeful again?

Well, I hope it's not a spinoff. Gambit is an X-MEN member, I don't want to see him in some solo movie on his own, or whatever.

I want to see him fighting alongside the likes of Wolverine, Cyclops, and "Stormy", and charming the likes of Rogue.

I've said this time and again, if Gambit's role is indeed a "minor" role, I am completely happy with that. I'm not expecting Gambit to get a Wolverine sized role or anything like that. I'm cool with him being a background, supporting character (hell, I should be used to it, that's all he ever was in the cartoon).

I just want something more than "that Cajun looking fellow with the thick mop of hair". I don't want a "mention" of him. We had that in X2 on the computer screen. I don't want a cameo like Jubilee or Kitty Pryde. I wanna see him in action, even if he's not gonna be a main focus.

I've talked about the role I'd like to see him in, given the info we have of the script. It would give him a pretty good purpose to be in the movie, and would display everything that Gambit fans wanna see.
 
Well, I hope it's not a spinoff. Gambit is an X-MEN member, I don't want to see him in some solo movie on his own, or whatever.

Gambit spin off that is. Don't you think? It'd be a block buster! Scratch Wolverine, Gambit is better. :hq:
 
I completely agree with Nell. All I want is a small role for Gambit. It doesn't have to be big but it has to be enough where people could go "Hey, it's Gambit!".

Arad makes it as if it's not possible. I'm telling you guys, Arad MUST have something against Gambit. I've waited for too long for Gumbo's big screen debut and since this could be the last one, why not give it a shot for the Ragin' Cajin. I swear, Arad makes it as if it's a huge chore and his excuses are not cutting it anymore. I understood X-Men and X2, but not this time around.
 
Yeah, I don't want Gambit to have a large role...I'd prefer a small role.
 

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