Which character had the better ending? Batman vs iron man vs captain America vs logan

[Dede]

I’d go
1 Batman
2 Logan
3 iron man
4 captain America

 

[The Batman]

Subjectively, Batman. Especially since fanboys have built it up in their minds that Batman is a character that won't ever, ever retire. I'm glad Nolan said "screw that", and gave him a happy ending

In the end, though, I voted for Logan. Even though I resent how Jackman's Wolverine came to dominate the film franchise, he had an incredibly effective exit.

 

[The Joker]

Batman, because it slapped a lot of false perceptions in the face.

I also loved Cap's and Logan's. They're tied for a close second.

 

[Batmannerism]

Batman, because it slapped a lot of false perceptions in the face.

I also loved Cap's and Logan's. They're tied for a close second.

Batman, no question- because it is an ending with a complete emotional payoff. TDKR is a very flawed film ( unlike TDK) but IMO one thing it completely gets right is the ending - I believe that Nolan always had an ending like that in mind.

Cap's trilogy is wonderful- I loved the spectacle of Civil War, and Winter Soldier is only a hair away from equaling TDK in greatness - but Cap's story doesn't conclude until Endgame, and it's a good ending, the right ending but very complicated- given the nebulous rules of time travel in the MCU.

Iron Man, a very good ending, but I never really thought of him as the martyr type. Still he goes out in style.

Logan is a masterpiece but its ending is very bleak. His redemption comes so late - it's kind of heartbreaking to watch.

 

[Erzengel]

Captain America, he deserved his ending.

 

[Zarex]

Iron Man by a not insignificant amount. He went out like a boss, saved the universe, and laid a killer verbal comeback on a nigh invincible space god.

After Tony I'd rank them as follows:

Captain Time Stream Disruptor
Death by Log Logan
Second Retirement Man

 

[Schlosser85]

Honestly I thought they were all beautiful endings in their own contexts.

 

[Drizzle]

1. Iron Man
Tony's ending was the most epic considering he started out as a selfish and conceited playboy who later sacrificed himself to save the universe 22 films later.

2. Captain America
Steve's ending felt the most earned, even if it does raise a lot of time-bending questions.

3. Logan
Logan's ending was the saddest considering unlike the other heroes mentioned, he never really found happiness. His life was just constant fighting even though he did find some peace through Laura.

4. Batman
Bruce's ending was deserved but IMO it would have felt more meaningful if he had actually died in the explosion. I still think Bruce running off to Italy with a woman he barely knows and has little reason to trust considering she stole from him twice and sold him out to Bane is a little far fetched, especially since he would undoubtedly be recognized at some point since he's a famous billionaire.

It's not coincidental that all four of these moments brought a tear to my eye when seeing them for the first time.

 

[Dede]

I can see why any of the 4 would be picked
They are all special in there own ways

 

[Bayne]

1. Captain America - This was perfect for me in every way.

2. Logan - From the standpoint of Logan as a character, this was nearly perfect, but from the standpoint of the movie it just feels slightly undermined for me by how weak and unconvincing all the kids he's saving are in their roles (except Laura).

3. Batman - The actual end he gets is perfect, the circumstances of 'death' kind of dumb, for me.

4. Iron Man - This was absolutely perfect in concept but fell totally flat on its face for me in execution. He takes so. damn. long. to say that line before he snaps his fingers, I honestly kept expecting Thanos to just smash his face in and take the glove back. It's legitimately my biggest problem with Endgame as a movie.

 

[Lantern Venom]

I can see why any of the 4 would be picked
They are all special in there own ways

Well said. This was a tough call because they're all carefully-crafted. I only went with Batman because it was the most unexpected. I wouldn't have been shocked had he sacrificed himself or come back to fighting crime in some manner, but seeing a happy, retired Bruce raise a glass in Alfred's direction made me a little misty-eyed.

 

[Iceman]

1.Iron Man
2.Logan
3.Batman
4.Cap

 

[Mjolnir Reborn]

1. Iron Man
2. Logan
3. Captain America
4. Batman

 

[Zarex]

4. Iron Man - This was absolutely perfect in concept but fell totally flat on its face for me in execution. He takes so. damn. long. to say that line before he snaps his fingers, I honestly kept expecting Thanos to just smash his face in and take the glove back. It's legitimately my biggest problem with Endgame as a movie.

I think Tony struggling to get out the words was more due to the gems killing him than trying to create additional drama.

And Thanos also sat patiently when the Avengers Assembled. Say what you want about the big guy, he believes in fighting fairly and gracefully accepting defeat.

 

[Bayne]

I think Tony struggling to get out the words was more due to the gems killing him than trying to create additional drama.

And Thanos also sat patiently when the Avengers Assembled. Say what you want about the big guy, he believes in fighting fairly and gracefully accepting defeat.

I never thought it was Tony trying to create additional drama, it's just the movie trying to create additional drama in a really clumsy and counterproductive way. Absolutely nothing against the character, it's just that performance/moment just doesn't work for me at all.

And the Thanos comment doesn't help me either, since while he clearly looked forward to (and was willing to wait for) destroying the assembled Avengers, he obviously doesn't just gracefully accept defeat. Everything that version of Thanos did in the entire movie was to undo the Avengers finally finding a way to defeat his other self after the fact. No way he'd sit and watch Iron Man struggle through exhaustion to snap his fingers (no moreso than the other version just gave up and said 'you win' when Thor buried Stormbreaker in his chest), because at that moment in time he isn't actually defeated yet.

 

[Drizzle]

It is strange how Thanos just stares dumbfounded during the "I...am...Iron Man" moment, but I guess once he saw that Stark had all of the stones, he knew he was defeated.

But the actual explanation is that it's plot armor for Tony so he can save the universe. It's no different that what we've seen in films for decades. You might as well ask why Darth Vader hesitated in taking down Luke's X-Wing during the attack on the Death Star or why none of the villains in the 007 films just shot James Bond in the head when they had him captured.

 

[Fosterson]

No way he'd sit and watch Iron Man struggle through exhaustion to snap his fingers (no moreso than the other version just gave up and said 'you win' when Thor buried Stormbreaker in his chest), because at that moment in time he isn't actually defeated yet.

Watch the scene:



Thanos only realises that Tony has the stones at 0:47. By 0:52 Tony has absorbed the stones and is ready to snap. From that point on, Tony could have snapped anytime he wanted to. He didn't need to say "And I am Iron Man", but it was absolutely in-character for him to do so. So in other words, Thanos had 5 seconds tops to cover a not inconsiderable distance and rip the stones away from Tony before he could snap.

After that, Tony would have just snapped early if he saw Thanos rushing towards him. Besides, there's always the possibility that one or more of the other heroes could have distracted Thanos to buy Tony a little more time - Cap and Thor were both back on their feet when Thanos' army was dusted.

There is also the additional factor of Thanos' shock - he genuinely thought that he had won and his facial expressions clearly imply that he was struggling to come to terms with his defeat (he only accepts it after seeing his whole army disintegrate). In a way, its a neat callback to the earlier scene between him and Nebula where he says that the arrogant never suspect anything.

In this case, Thanos' arrogance led him to underestimate Tony and not realise that the stones had been taken until it was too late.

 

[Blade Hoarder]

He takes so. damn. long. to say that line before he snaps his fingers,

Boy, I sure hope nobody introduces you to Anime.

 

[Spider-Fan]

My pick goes to Logan. Cap and Iron Man right behind. Batman last. I like Endgame more overall than Logan. Just more to my taste. But going by single character arc alone, it was Logan. I won't lie, I got misty.

 

[Bayne]

Watch the scene:



Thanos only realises that Tony has the stones at 0:47. By 0:52 Tony has absorbed the stones and is ready to snap. From that point on, Tony could have snapped anytime he wanted to. He didn't need to say "And I am Iron Man", but it was absolutely in-character for him to do so. So in other words, Thanos had 5 seconds tops to cover a not inconsiderable distance and rip the stones away from Tony before he could snap.

After that, Tony would have just snapped early if he saw Thanos rushing towards him. Besides, there's always the possibility that one or more of the other heroes could have distracted Thanos to buy Tony a little more time - Cap and Thor were both back on their feet when Thanos' army was dusted.

There is also the additional factor of Thanos' shock - he genuinely thought that he had won and his facial expressions clearly imply that he was struggling to come to terms with his defeat (he only accepts it after seeing his whole army disintegrate). In a way, its a neat callback to the earlier scene between him and Nebula where he says that the arrogant never suspect anything.

In this case, Thanos' arrogance led him to underestimate Tony and not realise that the stones had been taken until it was too late.

You guys are really not giving me any reasons to enjoy the scene any more. Half of what you say to defend it honestly just sounds like more ways the scene could've been done better, though the simplest alternative of just not dragging it out so long would've been best, I think.

In any case, I agree it's a neat callback, though it still would've been even if it hadn't been so long. And I'm not saying anything against other people enjoying the scene as is, it just is far too over the top for me and absolutely breaks my suspension of disbelief.

Boy, I sure hope nobody introduces you to Anime.

I've seen a handful of things. Some were ok. Spirited Away was pretty cool. But in general, the whole anime (or manga) style is a major turn-off for me, anyway. And that probably does have at least something to do with some of the shows I saw go past on tv a lot when I was in high school that did exactly this sort of ridiculously overdramatic pause way too much (not sure anymore what shows they were, maybe Pokemon or Yugioh or something like that).

 

[Spider-Fan]

I think the criticism that Tony takes too long to say the line is meh. That to me is a nitpick. If you want an excuse for why the scene plays out that way Thanos is both in shock and knows he is defeated. So he just accepts his fate. Trying to add something Thanos lunging at Tony or just having Tony do it in a rush is what they call in wrestling overbooking the finish. Why do all that when how it happens in the movie allows it to sink in more for the audience?

 

[Mjolnir Reborn]

I think the criticism that Tony takes too long to say the line is meh. That to me is a nitpick. If you want an excuse for why the scene plays out that way Thanos is both in shock and knows he is defeated. So he just accepts his fate. Trying to add something Thanos lunging at Tony or just having Tony do it in a rush is what they call in wrestling overbooking the finish. Why do all that when how it happens in the movie allows it to sink in more for the audience?

I agree, as long as making a dramatic time stretch doesn't change anything (which it doesn't as Tony can snap whenever he wants) it doesn't hurt the narrative to me. If I was looking for something to question in that scene I would likely sooner mention that Tony's suit really held up surprisingly well to the force of the stones, allowing him to take the initial surge better than Hulk. His armor had become nearly magical though, and he still didn't survive it, so I'm personally fine with it. Hence why I voted for him. A bit of a stretch to give the biggest character of the MCU his farewell after 11 years.

 

[Filmfreak]

I remember saying to a friend of mine, months before The Dark Knight Rises came out, my ideal ending for the character and it was almost exactly what happened in the film. I liked the Logan ending but nowhere near as much. I didn't like other two in Endgame. They felt forced and sloppy.

 

[Adhesive Boy]

Cap gets my vote. A nice ending getting the life had earned but lost.

Tony killing himself to save everyone, losing his new family life is very touching as well. As is Logan's painful journey that ends with him getting to feel the love between a father and a daughter. Batman had earned his rest as well, but choosing Selina as the one to share his secret with was very undercooked.

 

[Awest66]

Gonna go with Batman because I'm just a sucker for happy endings.