BvS Which Green Lantern should be used?

[The Endless]

Hehehe Hal Butthead.

 

[the last son]

anyone that's ever read a comic/anyone that's aware of Green Lantern through anything other than Justice League: TAS knows how much better Hal is

You mean like the movie?

 

[Rorschach2012]

You mean like the movie?

Generally speaking, anyone aware of Green Lantern through anything outside of Justice League TAS would prefer Hal Jordan

 

[IncognitoWalrus]

Hal Jordan, played by Garrett Hedlund.

 

[Beige Lantern]

I think Guy Gardner is so underused and he's a great way to a good mix of personalities within the League.

And he should be played by Jai Courtney:

I'd love to see John Stewart as well, although Dwayne Johnson is a poor choice for him if rumors are true. I'd much rather see Idris Elba:

But I don't think it will be John Stewart for a stupid reason: Non-geeks will be like "The guy from The Daily Show is in this movie?"

The reasons I DON'T think it should be Hal is you don't have to rewrite or recast the GL movie. Yes the first GL was Hal but let's pretend that whole thing didn't happen. Here's the next in line.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

But it wouldn't be "here's the next in line", that would be acknowledging Green Lantern. It would be "THIS is the first human Lantern".

 

[Beige Lantern]

No, you're missing my point. I DO want to acknowledge the GL movie. I don't want the GL movie retconned. It happened; all that happened; we just don't want it in our movie. So you can bring in the next Green Lantern without undoing anything or pretending it never happened.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Guy Gardner's place is in a Justice League International movie or as a supporting character in a Green Lantern Corps movie.

I also agree Elba would be absolutely perfect for John Stewart. If they have to use John Stewart, and Dwayne Johnson is Black Adam or Shazam, then it's gotta go to Idris Elba. He's such a great actor, that he'd make me okay with Hal not being involved. If they get Dwayne Johnson or Idris Elba, and the writing for the character is as quality as it was on Justice League TAS, then John Stewart will work well.

I'm getting used to the idea of John Stewart being the movie Green Lantern. The dynamic between John and Wally was pretty great on JL TAS. And the Shayera romance was actually really well done... i wouldn't mind seeing that in the movies..

Man JL TAS really was amazing. I get why people want John Stewart. Some of the best Green Lantern media EVER is from that show. In Blackest Night and Hearts and Minds are my favorite Green Lantern centric episodes. Both are amazing.

A criticism I have of the Justice League animated series was its handling of Sinestro. He was a recurring character on the show but there was zero ties between John and Sinestro on the show. Sinestro is one of DC's best villains, and they realllly dropped the ball with him on that show.

If John is used, he should have Hal's relationship with Sinestro. Sinestro would be a huge asset to the DC movie universe, and I'd rather not see him at all if his relationship with Green Lantern is similar to their relationship on Justice League TAS. I also think if John is used, he should receive the ring from Abin Sur instead of Hal.

The key to making any Green Lantern work is good writing and casting a good lead. It doesn't matter what people think of GL before JL comes out, same thing with Aquaman. Everyone thinks he's a joke, but then they cast Momoa, and all that's going to change. It's all about the actor and the writing. Green Lantern's movie damaged Green Lanterns in general, not just Hal. But that won't matter once the JL movie comes out.

 

[Rorschach2012]

No, you're missing my point. I DO want to acknowledge the GL movie. I don't want the GL movie retconned. It happened; all that happened; we just don't want it in our movie. So you can bring in the next Green Lantern without undoing anything or pretending it never happened.

We're getting a reboot GL with no connections to that last movie. The events of that movie didn't happen, and won't be addressed. Those movies contradict each other already. It's confirmed they don't exist in the same universe.
I wouldn't really mind if they were connected. Reynolds could be awesome in a Justice League movie..

Lol wouldn't it be crazy if we already have our Justice League though?
Superman: Cavill
Batman: Affleck
Wonder Woman: Gadot
Green Lantern: Reynolds
The Flash: Gustin
Aquaman: Momoa
Cyborg: Fisher
Green Arrow: Amell
Black Canary: Cassidy

 

[Da-Scribe]

Not super familiar with all of the different GL's. Any reason why Rayner and Baz don't really come up? Gardner as well? Seems to be all Hal and Stewart. Were they the only one's ever in the JL or something?

I'll say this, if they go with Stewart, I hope they look to cast someone outside of the handful of black actors that keep coming up around here. People like Columbus Short, Damon Wayan's Jr, Rob Brown, Edi Gathegi, Chadwick Boseman, and Jesse Williams all deserve a mention.

 

[Beige Lantern]

Just a shorter legacy. Rayner was in a lot of ways just a Jordan rehash, and Baz is so new not even all comic readers know who he is. Putting someone that fresh in a major role is asinine. It would be like someone casting Bane as the main villain.

 

[Da-Scribe]

Just a shorter legacy. Rayner was in a lot of ways just a Jordan rehash, and Baz is so new not even all comic readers know who he is. Putting someone that fresh in a major role is asinine. It would be like someone casting Bane as the main villain.

Gotcha. Makes sense. I only ask because going with either seems like an opportunity to add diversity to the team without having to racebend. Now, I'm fine with whatever way they go, but it would be refreshing to have a diverse cast outside of the token black guy.

But I'd rather they just do what's best for the story.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Hal Jordan, played by Garrett Hedlund.

I like Hedlund better for Flash, but he might also work as Hal.

 

[Beige Lantern]

Gotcha. Makes sense. I only ask because going with either seems like an opportunity to add diversity to the team without having to racebend. Now, I'm fine with whatever way they go, but it would be refreshing to have a diverse cast outside of the token black guy.

But I'd rather they just do what's best for the story.

John Stewart is not a token black guy. He is a strong character that has earned his place in the lexicon irrespective of skin color.

 

[DarkSentinel]

Said it before, saying it again.

Jensen. Pie-eating sumb****. ACKLES.

 

[Lily Adler]

How about no and get a real actor RJ.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Jensen Ackles for Steve Trevor, or some other character I don't care about.

 

[Da-Scribe]

John Stewart is not a token black guy. He is a strong character that has earned his place in the lexicon irrespective of skin color.

I wasn't referring to John Stewart when I made that comment. It was a general statement about how diversifying a cast typically just involves throwing in a black character with little to do other than be the black character.

 

[Bam-Bam]

I hate the idea of changing tradition just to add diversity. Forcing diversity on people to satisfy parts of the audience that are calling for diversity doesn't help anything in my opinion. Personally I can't stand it. The characters are who they are, leave it that way. Besides, people of all nationalities, genders and races enjoy the characters exactly the way they are already, if they didn't then they would never make the movie to begin with.

I also believe calling Wonder Woman a token female character is selling the character short. She is not a token female superhero, she is the definitive female superhero. I feel the same way to a lesser extent about Martian Manhunter and Cyborg, they are just part of the team (one being an original founding member and one being a next-gen founding member). Both will probably see time in the Justice League before this run is over.

I don't see why people can't just enjoy the characters/members the way they always have been, instead of trying to force diversity into the matter just for the sake of adding diversity.

These were characters created in the 40's and 50's, when it was considered making your characters anything other than a white male a bad business decision. A time when discrimination against minorities was allowed. These characters aren't white based solely on creative reasons from the artist, especially during those times.

So don't tell me diversity doesn't matter, it will always matter.

 

[bluerayer]

Best Guy Gardner moment:

 

[Rorschach2012]

These were characters created in the 40's and 50's, when it was considered making your characters anything other than a white male a bad business decision. A time when discrimination against minorities was allowed. These characters aren't white based solely on creative reasons from the artist, especially during those times.

So don't tell me diversity doesn't matter, it will always matter.

Does the diversity of the League so far satisfy you? If Hal Jordan and Barry Allen are the last two members, will you be disappointed?

 

[Beige Lantern]

I wasn't referring to John Stewart when I made that comment. It was a general statement about how diversifying a cast typically just involves throwing in a black character with little to do other than be the black character.

If they were to throw in Simon Baz I would consider that more token than Stewart, seeing as Stewart is a character who has a lot to go on.

 

[Rorschach2012]

John Stewart is far more worthy of being in the movies than Simon Baz is. No doubt.

John really would make sense, but for the millionth time, he has to take some story elements from Hal if used.

I do get some of the Hal complaints, his movie failing is the best argument against him. The arguments I've seen against his character have been pretty weak and that viewpoint is shared by a small amount of people. It's gotta be Hal or a Hal John hybrid.

 

[Da-Scribe]

If they were to throw in Simon Baz I would consider that more token than Stewart, seeing as Stewart is a character who has a lot to go on.

That's fair. I don't know much about Rayner or Baz.

 

[shauner111]

Jai Courtney can't act.

Idris Elba will always be my ideal John Stewart but it's not happening. Im down with the Rock playing Stewart but don't think that's going to happen either.

I think we'll be seeing Hal and Barry. Two unknown actors just like the casting of Cyborg.