Which major 2008 event are you most looking forward to?

Theres also "War of the independants" but i doubt it'll even make it past #1 without arcana getting sued.

 

since when is ultimatum the first cross over story



ultimate war
ultimate six
ultimates vol 2
ultimate gah lak tus
ultimate hulk vs wolverine

 

I voted for "Bah".

 

I'm more excited for what's going in the the individual titles in 2008

-Fantastic Four
-Green Lantern
-Thor
-Hercules
-Iron Man
-Captain America


...just to name a few

 

Ditto. Don't particularly care about Final Crisis (which is so obviously not going to be the final anything) or Secret Invasion. The Ultimate universe doesn't even exist to me. The only thing I'm really looking forward to out of either of those is Nick Fury's return in SI, and in that case I'm mostly just hoping he gets a mini-series that's not written by Bendis out of it.

 

I love Bah has nine. that means eight others share my dislike for the big two's mega events.

warms my geeky heart.

also, Loeb should have his thumbs removed, to make sure he never writes ever again, for the sins he have committed to the ultimate universe, and the sins he has still to comit.

bastard.

 

I might check out Final Crisis.
But SI im staying away from.
I promised to never read a Bendis book ever again after new avengers.
And the ultimate one is out of the queation since I quit reading stuff from that side of the marvel universe since Millar left UFF.

 

Yeah. The "events" I am most looking forward to are things happening in individual ongoings that I buy, not line wide events, because I have invested the time and emotion in characters and their creators teams who have done a good job. I look forward to seeing the end run of THE ORDER. Of seeing Brubaker, Epting & Guice and "New Cap". Of the rest of KIA in AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE from Slott, Gage, and Caselli. Of the finale of ANNIHILATION CONQUEST and more of NOVA. Of the final tournament in IMMORTAL IRON FIST.

Or issue #50 of INVINCIBLE, the end of this latest DYNAMO 5 arc, the finale of UMBRELLA ACADEMY's first of many mini's. The end of the conflict between Jamie and the Reach in BLUE BEETLE. Of how long Booster & Ted are reunited in BOOSTER GOLD. Of how long the NEW WARRIORS last. Of how well Casey & Muniz will handle THE LAST DEFENDERS.

But the industry wide event? Pfft. I just hope it bares good fruit afterwards.

 

I think I should clarify: I don't have a problem with big events at the big 2. I think that's actually their strength. They have tons of awesome characters who all inhabit the same world, so not only is it fun to see them all crammed together in a huge, epic story, it absolutely makes sense. I find it more forced when the characters go about their business in their own books and never see another major character, especially at Marvel, where 99.99999% of everything happens in New York. I love good crossovers, like Messiah Complex (barring the last couple of chapters) and Annihilation and Avengers: The Initiative (which I consider basically a crossover series, since you're likely to find characters from all over in any given issue).

My problem with the upcoming events is that, frankly, they just look like they're gonna suck. Skrull invasion? We've seen that before, and we've seen it done far better than I believe Bendis is even capable of doing it in other stories like Battlestar Galactica. I'd much rather see the Skrulls drag the humans into space for some cosmic antics rather than have everything claustrophobically centered on Earth.

As for Final Crisis... Really? Does anybody have any illusions that this is gonna be the final anything or bring any sort of finality to anything? Please. The nature of comics is cyclical, which makes anything with the word "final" or implications that it's ending anything feel completely bogus and useless to me. Even things I'm looking forward to, like The Last Defenders, make my eyes roll when I see that "last" in there. It's not the last Defenders story by any means. Someone else'll have some idea to bring the Defenders back and Marvel will publish it. But getting back to Final Crisis: I find myself not even caring if it does wipe away tons of stuff and completely changes everything. Big deal. The post-Infinite Crisis landscape is so foreign to me in a lot of cases that I don't really care about most of DC's characters anymore. Superman is all but unrecognizable to me. Batman's greatest strength, in my opinion--the family of other characters he built up around himself in spite of his ostensible loner tendencies--has been destroyed, and the few remaining ones have been warped so much I barely recognize them. Right now, I'm enjoying mostly fringe characters like Booster Gold, Blue Beetle, the GLs who aren't Hal, etc.

So, basically, the big two events of this summer both look like they're built on shoddy premises with a lot of other factors that just drain all the interest I might've normally had in them out of me. I just don't give a ****.

 

I can't help looking forward to Grant Morrison and JG Jones.

 

Ultimatum. And Secret Invasion to a lesser extent.

I'm not looking forward to Final Crisis at all, especially with the

Spoiler

death of batman

rumors flying around.

 

Batman's not gonna die, and even if he does, it's not gonna be for long. Yes, I'm not even bothering to spoiler-tag that nonsense.

 

They couldn't cripple Batman in the 90s. DC would be fooling themselves more than readers, if they thought something like Batman's death would stick. So yeah, not gonna happen.

Anyway, I vote "bah." Nothing about Final Crisis interests me. Secret Invasion is written by Bendis. I don't even read Ultimate titles anymore.

 

Looking at Countdown, logic tells me that Final Crisis will blow.

....but

It's Grant Morrison and JG Jones. How can that NOT be decent?

 

Read Batman lately?

Jones should be good, though.

 

You know they're going to do the exact opposite. They'll say Captain America was a Skrull, thus (just barely) making Iron Man's recent actions almost look somewhat reasonable.

 

Iron Man didn't kill Captain America, so I don't see how making him a Skrull would make much of a difference. Cap came off much more in-character (albeit a lot more brutal and uncompromising) in Civil War than Iron Man did.

 

Because then they can say Tony knew there were Skrulls among his former allies, explaining his unreasonable behavior. Then Steve can come back, and he & Tony will be as close as ever.

 

Ick, that's such a lazy, unemotional resolution.

 

Plus, Tony made it very clear he didnt know in the last issue of Avengers.

 

Or he's a really good actor.

 

I might check out Ultimatum (I'll need to read all the Ultimates titles first still though), and I'm hoping the star wars crossover is going to be good.

 

I'm really looking forward to Vector.