Sequels Which of these Rogue ideas do you like better?

[ToriL90]

I've got two storyline's for Rogue's power returning. I'm not fishing for other peoples' ideas here. I mean, if you want to post your ideas, then it would be a fun read for me; but I'd like to use one of these for my script. I'm just wondering which one you guys like better, and why? Thanks so much for the help!

STORYLINE 1: Bobby breaks up with Rogue after they sleep together because he's angry with her for taking the cure and too guilty about pushing her into it. Then, he impulsively hooks up with Kitty while Rogue is out of the mansion.
While away, Rogue meets another ex-mutant named Freddie (Rogue's boyfriend in the comics from a time when she was depowered). She moves in with him, and becomes pregnant. She is thrilled that she actually has another person inside her, when she could never even sustain contact for longer than a few seconds before that. She wants to name the kid "Logan." However, just like an emotional event triggers the original manifestation of power, her powers return when she finds out she's pregnant. The first clue comes when she and Freddie kiss, and he pulls away, thinking she recklessly bit his lip (although we see that it was a very light kiss) because he didn't know about her powers. As her powers return, they cause a miscarriage. When the nurse won't let her leave the same day, she KOs the nurse, steals a pair of surgical gloves, and heads back to the X-Mansion.

STORYLINE 2: Same beginning as before: Rogue and Bobby sleep together, Bobby dumps Rogue, hooks up with Kitty. In this storyline, though, there's no Freddie and no baby.
This time, Rogue is in a bar. A guy offers to buy her a drink, but she refuses, saying she was just leaving. The guy follows her out, angry that she wouldn't accept the drink. She tells him, "Look, I wasn't thirsty, okay? Would you please stop following me?" He pulls a gun on her and pushes her into an alley. He pins her against a building and starts kissing her. He's planning to rape her. This is an "emotional event" of a different sort, but triggers her powers just the same. His eyes bug out, and he tries to pull away. She knocks the gun out of his hand as she grabs his head and prevents him from pulling away. after several seconds, she finally lets go and lets him drop to the ground. At first, she looks furious; but her expression changes to shock as the reality of her powers returning sets in.

I really like the emotionality of storyline 1, how she names the baby after Logan and how the events cause her to hold back her pain in later scenes and become an edgier character, and it's the one I've been going with for a while now; but I just came up withstoryline 2, and I like how it makes her powers re-manifest in a way that's beneficial to her, and that could also make her an edgier character. I like that storyline 2 would take fewer scenes, although I'm worried that it might throw off the rhythm of the early part of my script.

 

[Remy LeBeau X3]

Both are not bad, although I think Bobby sleeping with her and then breaking up with her is pretty prickish. The only suggestion I have is to give them a better situation such as since Rogue took the cure, he breaks up with her since she has lost her "faith" and thus hooking up with Kitty. This would easily tie into both of your proposed ideas in the way that in 1) she goes back home and hooks up with Freddie, or 2) goes to the bar and so on... Although I would think that a break-up with Bobby could trigger the power re-manifestation from the emotional event. The reason for this is just so Bobby wont look like a complete ass for "sleeping and leaving."

 

[ToriL90]

Both are not bad, although I think Bobby sleeping with her and then breaking up with her is pretty prickish. The only suggestion I have is to give them a better situation such as since Rogue took the cure, he breaks up with her since she has lost her "faith" and thus hooking up with Kitty. This would easily tie into both of your proposed ideas in the way that in 1) she goes back home and hooks up with Freddie, or 2) goes to the bar and so on... Although I would think that a break-up with Bobby could trigger the power re-manifestation from the emotional event. The reason for this is just so Bobby wont look like a complete ass for "sleeping and leaving."

Thanks for the suggestions. Yeah, I know the breakup would be emotional, but I'm thinking that she'd still have too much cure in her system - it would have to wear off to some extent first, or else the cure would wear off for just about every mutant right after they get the shot.

I'll think about ditching the part of the storyline where Bobby and Rogue sleep together. I kinda wanted to demonize Bobby a little, since he's been so likeable in the past movies and I'm working toward a Rogue/Gambit relationship. Later, his regret over the entire situation and realization that he let a good thing get away would humanize him a little more; but honestly, I think Bobby would sleep with Rogue if she took the cure, even though he wouldn't be able to live with it long-term. He wants so bad to touch her, but every touch is gonna strike up such incredible guilt that he can't deal with it.

 

[ToriL90]

Okay, I'm thinking I might agree with you that Rogue and Bobby shouldn't sleep together. I only recently thought of the second storyline option; and in addition to the reasons I just posted, another reason I wanted them to sleep together was that I didn't want Rogue giving her virginity to some guy we don't really know. But if I go with the second storyline, she doesn't have to lose her virginity at all (poor Ratner, I guess she is "never gonna get any").

I'd still like to hear what others have to say about it; but this is what I'm thinking so far. Thanks so much, RemyX3.

 

[Remy LeBeau X3]

Hey no prob. You're ideas are good though. I also have a fan made X4 script not complete yet, but in mine I have kind of the opposite effect with Rogue and Bobby. I have Bobby pretty much pushing Rogue away for taking the cure and then falling for Kitty. But this all happens within a span of a few months that already pass between the events of X3, so in X4 Rogue and Bobby would be arguing about the whole situation. Ultimately, what happened in that time is that Kitty and Bobby flirt, but Kitty actually likes Peter. She eventually chooses Peter, and once Bobby sees that he sort of goes back to Rogue who is already fed up, and by this time regained her powers. So she is thinking "how convenient" that Bobby comes back now. Obviously he doesn't get her back, and he's gained a new "attitude" kind of like the demonizing you may be getting at to give him that edge in his personality. Eventually I'm going to have him get into a huge fight with Scott and he'll leave.

The reason for Kitty hooking up with Peter (which will make Bobby sick to see them flirting, and seeing Rogue beginning to like Remy), fighting with Scott, and becoming an ass is because those events are true to the comics I believe. Correct me if im wrong. But hey ToriL90 I do like how you've found another way at getting to somewhat of the same situation as I have. Good luck with your story.

 

[iamlegend]

Bobby dumping Rogue because she took the cure would be a the equivalent of dumping someone because they had an abortion... more or less anyway. You get the idea.

Since the X-men are supposed to be all about accepting people... it'd make him quite the hypocrite. And Iceman's character (at least in the movies) doesn't really seem to be like that.

 

[ToriL90]

Bobby dumping Rogue because she took the cure would be a the equivalent of dumping someone because they had an abortion... more or less anyway. You get the idea.

Since the X-men are supposed to be all about accepting people... it'd make him quite the hypocrite. And Iceman's character (at least in the movies) doesn't really seem to be like that.

That's sort of the point: the X-Men are about acceptance, the opposite of what the cure is about. Bobby's movie character sees himself as "Mr. Perfect", but he's not. He pushed Rogue away and flirted with Kitty during the time when Rogue was most vulnerable (just when the cure came out). She goes out and takes the cure. Like he said, "This isn't what I wanted". The X-Men are about accepting who you are, not changing who you are. Bobby would be so disappointed in Rogue for taking the cure. What's worse, he knows he pushed her into it. How can he ever touch Rogue again, with the guilt he'd feel over it? I don't think there's any way they wouldn't break up after she took the cure.

 

[iamlegend]

That's sort of the point: the X-Men are about acceptance, the opposite of what the cure is about. Bobby's movie character sees himself as "Mr. Perfect", but he's not. He pushed Rogue away and flirted with Kitty during the time when Rogue was most vulnerable (just when the cure came out). She goes out and takes the cure. Like he said, "This isn't what I wanted". The X-Men are about accepting who you are, not changing who you are. Bobby would be so disappointed in Rogue for taking the cure. What's worse, he knows he pushed her into it. How can he ever touch Rogue again, with the guilt he'd feel over it? I don't think there's any way they wouldn't break up after she took the cure.

You're forgetting that the X-Men FOUGHT TO SAVE THE CURE. Though some may have had a few personal reservations they agreed that they had to fight to keep the choice available for mutants that wanted it. Not every mutation in the X-Verse is a gift, as Rogue and other mutants have proved.

And Rogue said she did it for herself.

Personally, I think Iceman would get over it fairly quickly.

 

[Remy LeBeau X3]

Although Rogue did it for herself, the obvious deciding factor was so she could be with Bobby. The X-Men fought to save the cure, but more so to save the innocent lives at stake. That is what they are about, and while they could let the cure go down the drain, they had to face their nemesis, who just happened to also want to wipe out the cure. I think the X-Men more so fought Magneto and his Brotherhood, rather than fight to save the cure. Storm openly expressed it herself that she believed the cure wasn't a cure. Bobby may get over the fact Rogue did something for herself that devalues her (in his eyes) but maybe not. That is where the story can take any way the writer wants it to take.

What if you were completely against abortion or some type of life changing idea that you felt made you who you are. How would your reaction be if your significant other decided against your beliefs. It just depends on how much you care. You have to be able to either accept their ideas and beliefs, or keep yours and move on. We don't know where Bobby stands necessarily, other than that he didn't want her to take the cure. How firm was his desire? That's up to the writer to make.

 

[ToriL90]

Although Rogue did it for herself, the obvious deciding factor was so she could be with Bobby. The X-Men fought to save the cure, but more so to save the innocent lives at stake. That is what they are about, and while they could let the cure go down the drain, they had to face their nemesis, who just happened to also want to wipe out the cure. I think the X-Men more so fought Magneto and his Brotherhood, rather than fight to save the cure. Storm openly expressed it herself that she believed the cure wasn't a cure. Bobby may get over the fact Rogue did something for herself that devalues her (in his eyes) but maybe not. That is where the story can take any way the writer wants it to take.

What if you were completely against abortion or some type of life changing idea that you felt made you who you are. How would your reaction be if your significant other decided against your beliefs. It just depends on how much you care. You have to be able to either accept their ideas and beliefs, or keep yours and move on. We don't know where Bobby stands necessarily, other than that he didn't want her to take the cure. How firm was his desire? That's up to the writer to make.

Although, where did anybody get the idea that the X-Men were fighting to save the cure? I thought they were more fighting to prevent the Brotherhood and Phoenix from killing people, and also to rescue Leech, the source of the cure. That doesn't sound like supporting the cure to me. Did I miss something?

 

[Angamb]

I like the idea of someone atacking Rogue in the city, like happened with Mary Jane in Spiderman 1, really would love to see something like that.

But Bobby leaving the relationship is a bad idea, at least not so soon, it should be developed well. But I'd preffer Rogue leaving.

 

[Canemacar]

Whatever happens, the only logical conclusions for her relationship with Bobby is for it to break up either because of Bobby's womanizing, the screwed-upness of her taking the cure, or guilt by one or both of them.

After that I don't much care what happens. Let her get her powers back and whatever, but under no circumstances should she become involved with Gambit. No need for her to drag him down with yet another annoying angsty romance.

 

[TwilightPro101]

Voted for 2.

 

[Remy LeBeau X3]

Although, where did anybody get the idea that the X-Men were fighting to save the cure? I thought they were more fighting to prevent the Brotherhood and Phoenix from killing people, and also to rescue Leech, the source of the cure. That doesn't sound like supporting the cure to me. Did I miss something?

Hey ToriL I agree with u I was just saying that bc the other guy was saying something somewhat valid, and I was giving him/her the benefit of the doubt that he/she knew what they were talking about.

 

[iamlegend]

By the way... I never actually selected a storyline.

Storyline 1 would be awful. I mean, seriously... I'd probably walk out on a movie that followed that path.

Storyline 2, while just as terribly angsty, is at least bearable.

 

[ToriL90]

By the way... I never actually selected a storyline.

Storyline 1 would be awful. I mean, seriously... I'd probably walk out on a movie that followed that path.

Storyline 2, while just as terribly angsty, is at least bearable.

Thank you. t:

 

[iron_spartan]

I liked storyline 2 more than 1 just by a little bit.

 

[Logan's Lady]

I agree that I didn't care for Bobby sleeping with Rogue... but I do agree that after not having been able to touch or kiss her it would be amazing to touch her that maybe he couldn't stop. And it would have been the first time for Rogue too. I think it would be very emotional for the both of them.

I really like the idea of the first story line with Rogue getting pregnant and naming the baby Logan. (Can't get rid of my love for Logan/Rogue stories). Of course that has nothing to do with shipping of Rogue and Logan, the idea of Rogue always having Logan in her life (even if it IS her son) is great. And I'm sure those were her thoughts when she thought about naming the baby Logan....*giggle*

The sadness of losing the baby though... That would be a very sad movie to see! Anyway, the ideas are great though! Keep up the good work!