Or it could just be that no sane/respected director would work under the conditions that Zack had agreed to when they finally convinced him to take the gig. Also can I just mention how sad it is that he was one of their last choices, he didn't even want the job at first, they finally convinced him and here we are.
They went from MOS which was supposed to be a standalone superman universe, to a full on DC Movie Universe.
They could've released a good JL movie but the interest still wouldn't have been there after the absolute dumpster fire that was BvS. The general audience really did not like nor connect with that movie.
Yes I can well understand why they might be apprehensive now, but Man of Steel came straight off the back of Nolan's Batman work, with Nolan as one of its producers, and Marvel blazing a trail through the box office. I'd have thought that combination would have been pretty tempting.
BvS will win this poll by a country mile, and deservedly so. It was a horrible movie when it came out, and its reputation only gets worse as time goes by. All but the most hardcore Snyder fans acknowledge its sheer awfulness these days.
I think I agree with your take the most Chip Chipperson, especially with Man of Steel. I think you could've salvaged your franchise from that. But as you said, BvS was where all the real damage was done.JL was bad, sure. But after what we got with BvS, the ones who were put off by it expected this. We were prepared. BvS is really where the damage made itself known. MOS was teetering between good and bad film (I still think its solid despite the serious problems I had with it), but there were enough promising elements for WB to move ahead with Snyder, I guess. Or it could just be that no sane/respected director would work under the conditions that Zack had agreed to when they finally convinced him to take the gig. Also can I just mention how sad it is that he was one of their last choices, he didn't even want the job at first, they finally convinced him and here we are.
They went from MOS which was supposed to be a standalone superman universe, to a full on DC Movie Universe. If I remember, MOS got delayed in 2012. Avengers dropped that summer, and WB had its heart set on the connected stuff. It was all ill conceived from the start. They saw the success of the dark knight trilogy and thought they could do that with superman. All changed with that delay and Avengers though.
They could've released a good JL movie but the interest still wouldn't have been there after the absolute dumpster fire that was BvS. The general audience really did not like nor connect with that movie. The brand isn't damaged beyond repair, but they really need to look at these properties in a different light. Get people who understand/love these characters. If you can swing a big name director/writer to make a film, thats great too. They shouldn't settle on someone just to meet a deadline or be worried that they'll miss the boat on a trend. Just make good movies and let things happen naturally. Sigh.
Their handling of Justice League. Easy.
While Snyder's ideas for BvS were cynical and misguided, he was allowed to make the film he wanted to make and the film had a clear singular vision under his guidance. The ambition was clearly there, and I can at the very least respect that. Justice League, on the other hand, is the embodiment of corporate greed, cynicism, impatience, reactionism, and sheer stupidity. It literally could not have been handled worse, from start to finish. It's a cookie-cutter movie from the bowels of hell, and more people should have lost their jobs over it.
I liked MoS. And as much as I wanted Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman on the big screen together, I really wish we'd had a Supes solo trilogy first.
Zodsday should've been handled with a proper Doomsday intro (punching to the surface) at the end of BvS (after credits). He could've been setup as a villian for Justice League.
They had templates for Suicide Squad to and just went to cosmic and big to fast. Remake an Assault on Arkham in live action or something. . . . save the bigger threats for 2nd and 3rd films or team ups.
I can picture a large board room at WB with a bunch of important people talking about the future of the decu after MOS. Somehow the idea for their next movie had to come from " our best selling comics in DC history have been TDKR and death of superman so let's make them both one movie!" I can imagine one person speaking up by saying " TDKR is an elseworlds story and meant to end batman and the death of superman is not very well received by fans let alone we have seen superman for half of one movie" the person who spoke up was fired.
It baffles me that this universe was started with those 2 stories as the base. Huge, important stories like death in the family, jimmy olsen and doomsday were just brushed aside for some reason.
Just like everyone on these boards I love these characters and want to see DC do well. To answer the question; is the way BvS was handled