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Which Superhero Films Pack Box Office Punch?

Why do X-Men slay while Daredevil takes a dive? We asked the experts.

With a gross of $120 million on its opening weekend, "X-Men: The Last Stand" officially joined the ranks of superpowered superhero movies like "Superman" (1978), "Batman" (1989) and "Spiderman" (2002) — all of which broke the box office records of their day. Of course not all superhero movies have accomplished such incredible feats. "Daredevil," starring Ben Affleck, only did $40 million on its opening weekend and Jennifer Garner's "Elektra" did a measly $12.8 million. With "Superman Returns" debuting June 28 with a $200 million-plus budget and dozens of comic book inspired films in development, we asked the experts to tell us what makes a superhero flick fly.

Augie De Blieck Jr., a columnist for comicbookresources.com, says a superhero film's success depends on its ability to reach beyond the obvious fan base of geeked out teenage (or teenage acting) boys. "You're never going to please the hardcore fans, and there aren't enough of them to make a movie big enough for Hollywood," he said. "The top selling comic each month is lucky to break 200,000 copies. That's a drop in the Hollywood bucket."

According to De Blieck, the real story behind "X-Men's" success is that exit polling on the film showed an audience split evenly across the four demographic categories -- men under 25 years old, men over 25, women under 25 and women over 25.

"That indicates that the movie is working as more than just a comic book movie," says De Blieck. "It works as an entertaining action vehicle with certain emotional twists. The guys can go enjoy the spectacle of the film, and their girlfriends can enjoy the emotional difficulties of being a mutant."

As for whether "Superman Returns" will fare as well, De Blieck thinks it has a fighting chance.

"With the budget it has and the excitement that's building around it, 'Superman Returns' will either be the biggest bomb of the year or a smashing success," he says. "I have enough faith in Bryan Singer, thanks to the first two 'X-Men' movies, that I think it'll do well. It has the Fourth of July weekend all to itself, which I think will be a huge help. I doubt 'The Devil Wears Prada' will be a big threat."

Josh Flanagan, co-founder of the weekly iFanBoy.com comic book podcast, says he was surprised that "X-Men" did so well. He attributes the impressive opening weekend to the success of the two previous films and the comics' popular cartoon series on the Fox network from 10 years ago. "It is a cultural thing," he said. "In a funny way, comic book movies can get by on not being very good."

Flanagan has high hopes for the success of "Superman Returns" though. "I think for one thing this is the kind of movie that can be patriotic and tap into what the United States is craving in a movie right now," he said. "I think it will resonate with a lot of people."

Brandon Gray, the brains and just about everything else behind Box Office Mojo says there is a direct correlation between the popularity of the superhero and the success of the film.

"The most disappointing superhero movies, especially of late, have been the ones concerning minor characters in the superhero world like 'Elektra' and 'Catwoman,'" he says. "The three most popular superheroes in the culture" -- Superman, Batman and Spiderman -- "yielded the biggest grosses of their day and blockbuster returns overall."

Gray concedes that the X-Men characters are not as popular as the big three, but argues that they have seeped into popular culture. "They rank up there pretty high in terms of people's awareness of character's like Wolverine and Magneto," he said. "'The Fantastic Four' also had good awareness and yielded decent box office."

Gray added that solid marketing and a good track record of the two previous "X-Men" films helped the most recent "X-Men" flick. "Basically, if people like the previous two movies then they are more apt to rush out and see the new one."

As for whether "Superman Returns" will be a success however, Gray says it is definitely one of the riskier event pictures of the summer. He has concerns about the lack of consistent approach in the marketing of the film and that Brandon Routh's Superman may be too similar to Christopher Reeve's Superman. He also worries about the new plot point of Lois Lane having a kid. Still, he believes the movie has promise.

"It should do big business because the character is still popular enough and the movie looks good enough to draw a crowd," he says. "There are just concerns about the marketing and the premise of the movie."

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-superhero8jun08,1,4776518.htmlstory?coll=la-headlines-entnews&track=crosspromo

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So, all three "experts" concur that SR will indeed do good box office business.

There will be always doubts about this movie until it opens. But in the end, SR should be a smashing success.

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i'd be very surprised if Superman bombs...his name ALONE should bring enough people to the theater.
 
Yes, this isn't exactly rocket science. Everyone knows characters like Superman, Batman, and Spiderman, but few are as well-versed in properties like Daredevil, Elektra, or The Punisher.

The film is by no means a sure thing, mainly because of the amount of money invested. But realistically, the only way it could end up being a huge disappointment is if it gets labeled a dud the way Hulk did. No matter what you think of the creative decisions, it is still Superman. The novelty of seeing him on the big screen after 20 years alone should draw the crowds.
 
I agree about the marketing aspect. Not enough has gone on in the UK. I know people who like films and don't even know a new Superman film has been made!! :eek:
 
Only "Superman" name will get $200m for it, then good WOM will also make $250m, and huge fanbase will get finally more than $300m!

That was formula of Star Wars and Spider-man movies. The same is going to be with Superman.
 
DorkyFresh said:
i'd be very surprised if Superman bombs...his name ALONE should bring enough people to the theater.

I dont really get the Superman will be a success simply because it's Superman logic. I think that's a pretty big assumption on the overall relevance of the character with the mainstream public. The character seemed a lot more relevant in society when were growing up in the 70's and 80's, then it does now. I come from a huge family, and also coach sports so I'm around a ton of kids of various ages all the time, and they just dont seem like they have a clue about Superman. There's also been such a deluge of superhero and special effects films, I dont think there's that special attraction to it for the public anymore unless they REALLY differentiate this film from others.
 
I get what you are saying,but the \S/ sheild is the second most known symbol on earth(the cross is the most recongised)I may be wrong,I have been before,but I think people will flock in droves to see it.Its a feel good movie,and I think thats what people want now.
The Incredible Hulk said:
I dont really get the Superman will be a success simply because it's Superman logic. I think that's a pretty big assumption on the overall relevance of the character with the mainstream public. The character seemed a lot more relevant in society when were growing up in the 70's and 80's, then it does now. I come from a huge family, and also coach sports so I'm around a ton of kids of various ages all the time, and they just dont seem like they have a clue about Superman. There's also been such a deluge of superhero and special effects films, I dont think there's that special attraction to it for the public anymore unless they REALLY differentiate this film from others.
 
The Incredible Hulk said:
I dont really get the Superman will be a success simply because it's Superman logic. I think that's a pretty big assumption on the overall relevance of the character with the mainstream public. The character seemed a lot more relevant in society when were growing up in the 70's and 80's, then it does now. I come from a huge family, and also coach sports so I'm around a ton of kids of various ages all the time, and they just dont seem like they have a clue about Superman. There's also been such a deluge of superhero and special effects films, I dont think there's that special attraction to it for the public anymore unless they REALLY differentiate this film from others.

Some good points, but according with your theory FF would have bomb.
 
I Think that the things Brandon Grey points out are the exact reason that I am doubting the "Superman returns is going to be huge because it's Superman".

But why does he call Fantasic Four a decent hit? It cost a 100mil to make and made 154mil and Batman Begins cost 150mil and made 205mil. Doesn't seem to be a huge difference profit wise.
 
I would love for it to rightfully topple Spider-Man. I would laugh all day like some bad comic book villain.
 
DorkyFresh said:
i'd be very surprised if Superman bombs...his name ALONE should bring enough people to the theater.


even my grandma wants to see Superman Returns... because its superman
 
SolidSnakeMGS said:
I would love for it to rightfully topple Spider-Man. I would laugh all day like some bad comic book villain.
I bet you it won't. I think it will make 350mil tops.

If it topples Spider-Man 2 (not even the first one) I will put SolidSnakeMGS is the worlds finest in my sig... in black bold letters.
 
GreenKToo said:
I get what you are saying,but the \S/ sheild is the second most known symbol on earth(the cross is the most recongised)I may be wrong,I have been before,but I think people will flock in droves to see it.Its a feel good movie,and I think thats what people want now.

I dont see how the symbol recognition has any relevance to the movie being a success or not. Most people in the world know of Coca Cola, yet there are plenty of people that dont drink it and dont like it. Most people would be able to identify the "S" you're correct, however it doesnt mean they like or have even a passing interest in Superman. It's just a widely known unique symbol from being part of pop culture.

Ita-KalEl said:
Some good points, but according with your theory FF would have bomb.

I dont see how the F4 situation is analagous? :confused: Even so that film made only $100 million. If SR was to make only that, you'd have WB suits looking for the first train to throw themselves in front of
 
The Incredible Hulk said:
I dont see how the symbol recognition has any relevance to the movie being a success or not. Most people in the world know of Coca Cola, yet there are plenty of people that dont drink it and dont like it. Most people would be able to identify the "S" you're correct, however it doesnt mean they like or have even a passing interest in Superman. It's just a widely known unique symbol from being part of pop culture.

Agreed.
 
I wish Superman Returns would take down Spider-Man...but it doesn't have that much hype and box office power. All though with moving the release date up, does give it a shot to make quite a bit of intial dollars.
 
Whack Arnolds said:
I wish Superman Returns would take down Spider-Man...but it doesn't have that much hype and box office power. All though with moving the release date up, does give it a shot to make quite a bit of intial dollars.

SR probably won't take down Spider-Man right off the bat......that was Spidey's official big screen debut....no one had seen that before.....Supes debuted in the 70s so that big screen initiation had come and gone. Although, as long as geeks draw breathe, as long as couples have "dinner and a movie" dates, as long as middle/high school kids have nothin better to do SR will be a box office hit!


"If you film him, they will come!!"
 
Characters like Elektra, Daredevil, FF and even the Hulk aren't iconic enough for the general masses. Although, non-comic fans all know Superman, Batman and Spider-man even if they've never picked up a book. And I agree that the S-emblem is known worldwide.....the movie will pwn in good time!!!
 
I SEE SPIDEY said:
I bet you it won't. I think it will make 350mil tops.

If it topples Spider-Man 2 (not even the first one) I will put SolidSnakeMGS is the worlds finest in my sig... in black bold letters.

I'm sure it won't, although I think SR will be a better film that either Spidey movies.

If by some miracle it does, I WILL be watching your sig line :)
 
All SR has to do is earn enough to warrant a sequel.....I care nothing about the haters or the opinions of the masses.
 
SolidSnakeMGS said:
I'm sure it won't, although I think SR will be a better film that either Spidey movies.

If by some miracle it does, I WILL be watching your sig line :)
I have to say, I'm sure that it won't be as good as the Spidey films because I found X-men to be a fairly mediocre movie and the second to be better but below the quality of what I want an X-men movie to be.
 
Sarcasm said:
Characters like Elektra, Daredevil, FF and even the Hulk aren't iconic enough for the general masses.

the Hulk had the longest running superhero related television show ever until Smallville came along. Trust me, show someone a picture of a green muscle man flexing and they'll lmow who it is....As for the others, I agree

Ita-KalEl said:
IMO the marketing is huge.

I'd say it's been on par with Batman Begins, but not as crazy as Spidey has been
 
No Superman Returns has had alot more marketing than BEGINS. A **** ton more, to be exact.
 
Whack Arnolds said:
No Superman Returns has had alot more marketing than BEGINS. A **** ton more, to be exact.


In the great Los Angeles area, the SR campaign is going full steam ahead.....Batman was about half of this last year in the city.
 

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