Superman Returns The Final Box Office thread

[Hunter Rider]

I believe $391M is the worldwide gross. which is waaaaAY more than I expected. Great for a VERY BLAND FILM!

$391M WW + $200M domestic, singerman did pretty well to my dismay

And now it seem that the WB will greenlight part II
oOH WELL!!

$391M is the total

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=superman06.htm

 

[Billy Batson]

$391M is the total

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=superman06.htm

WOW, that's pretty BAD!!! t:

 

[Freddy_Krueger]

If $391 million worldwide is bad, then Batman Begins' $371 million worldwide must be pretty flippin abysmal.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

If $391 million worldwide is bad, then Batman Begins' $371 million worldwide must be pretty flippin abysmal.

Ha ha well said

 

[Hunter Rider]

Ha ha well said

Not when you take the budget into account

 

[Freddy_Krueger]

Meh, 9 million more dollars and it would have made its production budget back. The DVD sales plus the ancillary stuff have and will make SR a pretty penny.

 

[The Caped Knight]

First, there's "Superman Returns," the summer blockbuster starring Christopher Reeve sort-of-look-alike Brandon Routh. Although green kryptonite always saps ol' Supes' powers, greenbacks bolstered his return to the big screen, to the tune of a $200 million domestic gross -- fifth-highest moneymaker for 2006 so far.
http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/...e/entertainment-2/1164988597186210.xml&coll=6

 

[lordofthenerds]

Not when you take the budget into account

Yeah, but I don't think Billy Batson was taking the budget into account, since he didn't even know the wordwide gross. So by his standards Batman Begins's box office intake was abysmal.

 

[Billy Batson]

Yeah, but I don't think Billy Batson was taking the budget into account, since he didn't even know the wordwide gross. So by his standards Batman Begins's box office intake was abysmal.

BATMAN was very good!
should have done 1 billion world wide, 800Million at least.

& should be Box Office Heavy weights.
Spidey is all by himself.
SR loss to a Pirate
Sad! Sad!
SR was suppose to do Supes PROUD!!! WHAT HAPPEN PEOPLE?

 

[Carp Man]

BATMAN was very good!
should have done 1 billion world wide, 800Million at least.

& should be Box Office Heavy weights.
Spidey is all by himself.
SR loss to a Pirate
Sad! Sad!
SR was suppose to do Supes PROUD!!! WHAT HAPPEN PEOPLE?

Glad people are finally begining to see the reality of the situation. SR was a huge disapointment. Not even 400 WW, beaten out by all the films mentioned. 4 months to reach 200 million the 8th slowest to 200 million all time, 117 days. No focus on marketing. It was all over the place. Warmed over villian. To slow. Not enough action. Charactors were uninteresting. Ploded along for 2 and a half hours. The kid was useless. The suit was awfull. These are comments I have heard from those who saw it. You make a 2 and a half hour movie, it had better be intresting, and enough movement, like POTC 2. Like MI 3. Like X-Men 3. All high action, fast paced movies. I saw POTC 2, and the 2 and a half hours flew by. Same with X-Men 3, and MI 3.

 

[Showtime]

POTC2 and X3 aside, haven't seen POTC2 and X3 has the biggest plothole I have seen in awhile, MI3 was a big domestic disappointment although it did very well worldwide. It didn't make back it's budget domestic just as Superman Returns didn't.

 

[Hunter Rider]

POTC2 and X3 aside, haven't seen POTC2 and X3 has the biggest plothole I have seen in awhile, MI3 was a big domestic disappointment although it did very well worldwide. It didn't make back it's budget domestic just as Superman Returns didn't.

That's true,i'm still surprised that SR finished behind so many in total though,i mean MI-III knows why it failed to make as much as hoped domestically but SR needs to look deeper

 

[GreenKToo]

Batman Begins was good,but you cant call it a success and S.R. a failure,when S.R. made more W.W...yes I know S.R.'s budget was bigger,but still,more people went to see S.R.

 

[Excel]

superman sold a lot more in merchandise and made a lot in promo partners n products placements then batman. easily enough to make up for the 50 million budget difference.

 

[MalroyChick11]

It didn't make a killing because it was basically Smallville: The MOVIE.

Only the teen angst was magnified to ridiculous levels with a bunch of unnecessary christ parallels and direct ripoffs from STM.

At least Smallville was a big success. Unlike how SR was supposed to be.

 

[Ziggy]

Okay, this is probably going to sound pretty ignorant but it's something I've thought of for a while now.

I think a small part of Superman Returns' so-called "failure" (which I don't believe in) and Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest's success can be attributed to the fanbase. Honestly, the night Superman came out everyone was *****ing about "they did this wrong, this isn't right" on IMDB, but when Pirates 2 came out there were LEGIONS of fangirls on there flooding the boards with "OMG THIS MOVIE IS AMAZING!"-type posts, and being completely rude to anyone who pointed out the flaws of Pirates.

And because so many people use IMDB and various movie websites as a resource, I think it had a very small but still impacting effort on the box office. If you can't decide between two films, and you see a bunch of people *****ing about how bad one film is (and really, most often not even willing to point out even one redeeming quality a film had) and on another you see a ton of people raving about it, most people are going to be inclined to go with the one getting rave reviews from their peers.

That being said, at least Superman Returns got a generally favorable critical reception and Pirates 2 not so much. I also have heard better word-of-mouth about Superman from NON-FANS who are willing to take it for what it is (and not complain about the minute details) than I have Pirates. Yet the Superman internet community as a whole has this feeling of "Superman Returns sucked, everything was wrong, just reboot, etc., etc., etc.", because many people on this and similar boards are - much as I hate to say it - fanboys who will always find something to complain about.

Bottom line: Superman Returns at least returned a profit with all things considered.

Wow, that was pretty incoherent, sorry. Just kinda wanted to state my opinion.

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Okay, this is probably going to sound pretty ignorant but it's something I've thought of for a while now.

I think a small part of Superman Returns' so-called "failure" (which I don't believe in) and Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest's success can be attributed to the fanbase. Honestly, the night Superman came out everyone was *****ing about "they did this wrong, this isn't right" on IMDB, but when Pirates 2 came out there were LEGIONS of fangirls on there flooding the boards with "OMG THIS MOVIE IS AMAZING!"-type posts, and being completely rude to anyone who pointed out the flaws of Pirates.

And because so many people use IMDB and various movie websites as a resource, I think it had a very small but still impacting effort on the box office. If you can't decide between two films, and you see a bunch of people *****ing about how bad one film is (and really, most often not even willing to point out even one redeeming quality a film had) and on another you see a ton of people raving about it, most people are going to be inclined to go with the one getting rave reviews from their peers.

That being said, at least Superman Returns got a generally favorable critical reception and Pirates 2 not so much. I also have heard better word-of-mouth about Superman from NON-FANS who are willing to take it for what it is (and not complain about the minute details) than I have Pirates. Yet the Superman internet community as a whole has this feeling of "Superman Returns sucked, everything was wrong, just reboot, etc., etc., etc.", because many people on this and similar boards are - much as I hate to say it - fanboys who will always find something to complain about.

Bottom line: Superman Returns at least returned a profit with all things considered.

Wow, that was pretty incoherent, sorry. Just kinda wanted to state my opinion.

You earned my respect with this one post.

 

[The Kid]

That seems to be one of the cosequences of adapating source material. There are people out there who know it intimately, or casually like me, who can identify where something was off.

It makes me wonder what would have been the reaction to returns if singer based it more on the comic book or started fresh with a new superman rather than an old version. There are a million bad decisions that were made before this movie ever started production and unfortunately for not just those involved but superman fans who love their character and want to see him done in the best way possible there's only discordance in their minds now because the movie was made so many years after the old movies, and millions of dollars in potential are gone now.

In my mind things could have all been gravy despite the lackluster story if singer started fresh without any ties to donner. Thats where people like my sister say "is this a remake?" and just lose interest.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Okay, this is probably going to sound pretty ignorant but it's something I've thought of for a while now.

I think a small part of Superman Returns' so-called "failure" (which I don't believe in) and Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest's success can be attributed to the fanbase. Honestly, the night Superman came out everyone was *****ing about "they did this wrong, this isn't right" on IMDB, but when Pirates 2 came out there were LEGIONS of fangirls on there flooding the boards with "OMG THIS MOVIE IS AMAZING!"-type posts, and being completely rude to anyone who pointed out the flaws of Pirates.

And because so many people use IMDB and various movie websites as a resource, I think it had a very small but still impacting effort on the box office. If you can't decide between two films, and you see a bunch of people *****ing about how bad one film is (and really, most often not even willing to point out even one redeeming quality a film had) and on another you see a ton of people raving about it, most people are going to be inclined to go with the one getting rave reviews from their peers.

That being said, at least Superman Returns got a generally favorable critical reception and Pirates 2 not so much. I also have heard better word-of-mouth about Superman from NON-FANS who are willing to take it for what it is (and not complain about the minute details) than I have Pirates. Yet the Superman internet community as a whole has this feeling of "Superman Returns sucked, everything was wrong, just reboot, etc., etc., etc.", because many people on this and similar boards are - much as I hate to say it - fanboys who will always find something to complain about.

Bottom line: Superman Returns at least returned a profit with all things considered.

Wow, that was pretty incoherent, sorry. Just kinda wanted to state my opinion.

I've seen very little proof that the word of mouth on Pirates 2 or Superman Returns for that matter was bad and to say that Superman Returns was liked more than POTC2 based off of opinions of your friends is a ridiculous statement. The fact of the matter is Superman Returns had lame legs in most of it's overseas markets and had decent legs in the states. There is no proof that most people loved SR either, because if they did the movie would have held up far better even with POTC2 coming out and would have made upwards of 250mil.

 

[Billy Batson]

I've seen very little proof that the word of mouth on Pirates 2 or Superman Returns for that matter was bad and to say that Superman Returns was liked more than POTC2 based off of opinions of your friends is a ridiculous statement. The fact of the matter is Superman Returns had lame legs in most of it's overseas markets and had decent legs in the states. There is no proof that most people loved SR either, because if they did the movie would have held up far better even with POTC2 coming out and would have made upwards of 250mil.

Exactly!!!

Did you guys see the Parade/ Premier that Disney had @ Disney World? That alone was an indicator that POTC was going to be HUGE!

 

[JamalYIgle]

Exactly!!!

Did you guys see the Parade/ Premier that Disney had @ Disney World? That alone was an indicator that POTC was going to be HUGE!

No the party premier showed that Disney owns the rights to POTC.

 

[Maze]

Okay, this is probably going to sound pretty ignorant but it's something I've thought of for a while now.

I think a small part of Superman Returns' so-called "failure" (which I don't believe in) and Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest's success can be attributed to the fanbase. Honestly, the night Superman came out everyone was *****ing about "they did this wrong, this isn't right" on IMDB, but when Pirates 2 came out there were LEGIONS of fangirls on there flooding the boards with "OMG THIS MOVIE IS AMAZING!"-type posts, and being completely rude to anyone who pointed out the flaws of Pirates.

And because so many people use IMDB and various movie websites as a resource, I think it had a very small but still impacting effort on the box office. If you can't decide between two films, and you see a bunch of people *****ing about how bad one film is (and really, most often not even willing to point out even one redeeming quality a film had) and on another you see a ton of people raving about it, most people are going to be inclined to go with the one getting rave reviews from their peers.

That being said, at least Superman Returns got a generally favorable critical reception and Pirates 2 not so much. I also have heard better word-of-mouth about Superman from NON-FANS who are willing to take it for what it is (and not complain about the minute details) than I have Pirates. Yet the Superman internet community as a whole has this feeling of "Superman Returns sucked, everything was wrong, just reboot, etc., etc., etc.", because many people on this and similar boards are - much as I hate to say it - fanboys who will always find something to complain about.

Bottom line: Superman Returns at least returned a profit with all things considered.

Wow, that was pretty incoherent, sorry. Just kinda wanted to state my opinion.

Me too .

feel free to not believe me , but it's the truth.

ps: good post ziggy .

 

[buggs0268]

BATMAN was very good!
should have done 1 billion world wide, 800Million at least.

& should be Box Office Heavy weights.
Spidey is all by himself.
SR loss to a Pirate
Sad! Sad!
SR was suppose to do Supes PROUD!!! WHAT HAPPEN PEOPLE?

The movie sucked and it created bad word of mouth so it's box office dropped.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Funny thing is I'm not saying that most people liked SR, I've already stated that. I believe that about 70 percent of the people who saw the film had a favorable opinion of the movie but that doesn't mean that they didn't find it disappointing. Full disclosure; My older brother enjoyed the film and so did my oldest nephew but they just said that they love Superman so I don't know what that means. But the point is they liked at and I'll say good for them but my younger sister and I found it too be a dull mediocre rehash and my 12 year old neice found it too just be okay. What I'm saying is the haters can't accept that the movie isn't hated and is far from being another Hulk and the lovers can't except that they movie wasn't as well reviewed by critics or fans as the Spider-Man movies and I'd say Batman Begins on the fans side.

 

[buggs0268]

Okay, this is probably going to sound pretty ignorant but it's something I've thought of for a while now.

I think a small part of Superman Returns' so-called "failure" (which I don't believe in) and Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest's success can be attributed to the fanbase. Honestly, the night Superman came out everyone was *****ing about "they did this wrong, this isn't right" on IMDB, but when Pirates 2 came out there were LEGIONS of fangirls on there flooding the boards with "OMG THIS MOVIE IS AMAZING!"-type posts, and being completely rude to anyone who pointed out the flaws of Pirates.

And because so many people use IMDB and various movie websites as a resource, I think it had a very small but still impacting effort on the box office. If you can't decide between two films, and you see a bunch of people *****ing about how bad one film is (and really, most often not even willing to point out even one redeeming quality a film had) and on another you see a ton of people raving about it, most people are going to be inclined to go with the one getting rave reviews from their peers.

That being said, at least Superman Returns got a generally favorable critical reception and Pirates 2 not so much. I also have heard better word-of-mouth about Superman from NON-FANS who are willing to take it for what it is (and not complain about the minute details) than I have Pirates. Yet the Superman internet community as a whole has this feeling of "Superman Returns sucked, everything was wrong, just reboot, etc., etc., etc.", because many people on this and similar boards are - much as I hate to say it - fanboys who will always find something to complain about.

Bottom line: Superman Returns at least returned a profit with all things considered.

Wow, that was pretty incoherent, sorry. Just kinda wanted to state my opinion.

Because one movie was fun to watch and had two guys who women swoon over. The other had a script that you could drive a truck through the plot holes and bad guy plot that was not fun.

I have also heard a lot of people say it stole a lot in their minds from Spiderman 2. I know a few non comic book people I know who said a lot of it was like Spiderman 2 with the girl of the superheroes affection dating the boss relative. My little cousins who are teens said the same thing, and they said they liked it better the way it was done in Spiderman 2. They said it seemed that Singer was taking hit movies like "The Passions of the Christ" and "Spiderman 2" and stealing things from them to try to make it appeal more to people who liked those movies.

And the other thing was is that you had a really good movie that came out 20 years ago, that, dated effects and all, still is the gold standard for superhero films and the ones that people are comparing it to. Most people have seen it and will say it still is the best one they have seen so far. And a lot of people know of it because of Reeve. I know so many non comic book fans that say still "no one will replace Reeve for a while." and "How many other guys have been Superman since Reeve? I don't even recognize them. Reeve is still the Superman I know". Hell we showed a huge lobby standee for a Sean Connery James Bond film and 18 year old kids were going "who is that?" You show them a pic of Reeve, even not in costume, and the first thing out of their mouths is "That's Superman"