Who Said It?: Coulter vs. Hitler

[cass]

You also avoided my question, what you do think is better, leaders and writers who engage in thoughtful debate or those who engage in name calling and bickering (Dean and Coulter)?

If there is an actual message that makes any sense in the arguments of the writers and leaders, then both are fine.

I've read Ann's stuff. Yes, she says outrageous stuff. Because it sells. But there is a message. With Dean, if he's saying what his fellow Dems believe, good for him. He's getting his message out.

To cry over words is nothing short than absurd. Hell, this has been going on since the country was founded. See Andrew Jackson vs Quincy Adams, Jefferson vs John Adams, etc.The only way to eliminate the namecalling and bickering would be to put politics in a vacuum. That won't happen. To cry about it is ridiculous.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

I've read Ann's stuff. Yes, she says outrageous stuff. Because it sells. But there is a message.

REALLY? what IS this "message"?

 

[The Overlord]

If there is an actual message that makes any sense in the arguments of the writers and leaders, then both are fine.

I've read Ann's stuff. Yes, she says outrageous stuff. Because it sells. But there is a message. With Dean, if he's saying what his fellow Dems believe, good for him. He's getting his message out.

To cry over words is nothing short than absurd. Hell, this has been going on since the country was founded. See Andrew Jackson vs Quincy Adams, Jefferson vs John Adams, etc.The only way to eliminate the namecalling and bickering would be to put politics in a vacuum. That won't happen. To cry about it is ridiculous.

I'm not crying at all. I'm just its stupid, what they say is stupid. The messages they trying to give gets lost in the childish manner in which they they put their message out. Its this kind of stupid and childish behaviour that ormotes stupid and childish behaviour amongst the whole population and then it gets to point where people are not treating eachother as adults. They have the right to say what they want, but that's doesn't change the fact that they are being stupid and are promoting stupidity amongst the population. If they really wanted to do a service they could have thoughtful arguements and debates and promote debate that is spirited and respectful, but they won't because that wouldn't serve their purposes. I have rightto dislike what they say, just as much as they have right to say it.

As for historcial examples, are saying there is no example of thoughtful debate in US history? Surely it has happened now and again.

Also I guess you are being silent on your own double standards regarding Moore vs. Coulter on distortions.

 

[bored]

If there is an actual message that makes any sense in the arguments of the writers and leaders, then both are fine.

I've read Ann's stuff. Yes, she says outrageous stuff. Because it sells. But there is a message. With Dean, if he's saying what his fellow Dems believe, good for him. He's getting his message out.

To cry over words is nothing short than absurd. Hell, this has been going on since the country was founded. See Andrew Jackson vs Quincy Adams, Jefferson vs John Adams, etc.The only way to eliminate the namecalling and bickering would be to put politics in a vacuum. That won't happen. To cry about it is ridiculous.

What is the message, then? Is there anything of value to what she says?

 

[Darthphere]

REALLY? what IS this "message"?

Liberals are godless, therefore evil.

 

[JLBats]

Liberals are godless, therefore evil.

She's soooooooo ****ing right.

 

[jaguarr]

Ew, sick, on multiple levels.Lol

I'm going for more complexity and substance these days. Layers of stuff in there so there's something for everyone.

lol

I think a bit of both, but lil' TT definitely has some input.

Intelligence is heady stuff.

I've always found it attractive for a girl to quote the Pythagorean theorem...

I'm not sure whether I want to know about lil' TT's "input" or not (leaning towards NOT), but thanks for clarifying. Hey, hot women with brains are definitely a turn-on, though. It's one of the things that made me fall in love with my wife, after all. Malkin's not QUITE as obnoxious as Coulter is, so I guess I can kind of get her though she treads the line of being annoying at times. However, Natalie Portman hit a 1400 on her SAT's, Angelina Jolie has shown she has FAR more social conscience and the wherewithall to deliver against it in a fashion that matches her beauty than any of these pundits on the scene, and Julia Roberts is a MENSA member as is Asia Carrere and Gina Davis among others. There are plenty of smart, sexy, successful women out there to admire that don't engage in extremist rhetoric just for the sake of doing so in of itself. Then again, we live in a society that treasures Britney Spears, Jessica Simpson and Paris Hilton so there's no accounting for taste it would seem.

jag

 

[rigel7soldiers]

Yes, everyone is in agreement on the subject of how witty Darthphere is, yes.

I checked that thing out, ad let me tell you, I didn't know that Hitler spoke english.

 

[Darthphere]

She's soooooooo ****ing right.

I know, my eyes have been opened.

 

[Darthphere]

Yes, everyone is in agreement on the subject of how witty Darthphere is, yes.

I thought people knew this already.

 

[JLBats]

I know, my eyes have been opened.

I've always hated liberals. Dumb, whiny losers.

 

[bored]

Yes, everyone is in agreement on the subject of how witty Darthphere is, yes.

I checked that thing out, ad let me tell you, I didn't know that Hitler spoke english.

"Ja, und Svahili as vell."

 

[rigel7soldiers]

I thought people knew this already.

I was trying to be ironic, sort of like how you were. See, I felt you were diverting attention from the topic to yourself, that you could defame Ann Coulter. But I guess that doesn;t make sense

 

[BlackSymbiote]

Who said it: Howard Dean, elected head of the DNC or Shoeless Bob, hobo?

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Everyone but that last one, Howard Dean. The man elected by Democrats. Ann Coulter's never been elected. Wanna talk about lowering the tone?

I love it, you quote bad things sad by a conservative or liberal and it's countered with more quotes from someone on the otherside, usually because the other person assumes you are one.

Here's a clue: I'm socially liberal and fiscally conservative. I'm also a Libertarian. And I don't like Howard Dean.

However if you want to play battle of the quotations, I can get you a few from conservative heroes like Hannity and Dubya talking about a certain war that Clinton got us in.

As far as I'm concerned NONE of these asshats has a credible leg to stand on because as soon as the situation is reversed, so too goes their opinion. You honestly think that if Al Gore were in the White House and did EVERYTHING Dubya did EXACTLY how he did it, Coulter, Hannity, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, and Savage wouldn't be screaming for his head?

Just imagine THEIR outrage if it was Gore or Kerry who were tapping phones without warrants or detaining prisoners without charge.

 

[Darthphere]

Edit>

 

[rigel7soldiers]

er, edit>, as well

Sorry, anyay, though.

 

[Abaddon]

Anne Coulter is so brilliant for calling people names.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

No, she's a brilliant person who also calls people names.

 

[Abaddon]

It doesn't add to her brilliance

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Right. It's a reflection of her already existing brilliance.

 

[The Overlord]

No, she's a brilliant person who also calls people names.

Please trying to shock people and "stir the pot" is merely childish, not brilliant.

 

[Abaddon]

Nah,you just love her for not being pc.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Please trying to shock people and "stir the pot" is merely childish, not brilliant.

Wow, the only children I see are the people here. Little nit-picky games of semantics that aren't even addressing real points.

Again, did I say that the way she says inflammatory stuff and "stirs the pot" was brilliant. Never once. In fact that's her folly, she's a super-brilliant person, who's right about many things, but will never win over one of her foes because of her childish behaviour and desperate grabs at attention.

Are, you all aware that a brilliant person can be unwise, mean-spirited, childish, self-destructive, but still be a mental giant?

god.

 

[Abaddon]

Wow, the only children I see are the people here. Little nit-picky games of semantics that aren't even addressing real points.

Again, did I say that the way she says inflammatory stuff and "stirs the pot" was brilliant. Never once. In fact that's her folly, she's a super-brilliant person, who's right about many things, but will never win over one of her foes because of her childish behaviour and desperate grabs at attention.

Are, you all aware that a brilliant person can be unwise, mean-spirited, childish, self-destructive, but still be a mental giant?

god.

That is the point.

 

[The Overlord]

Basing yourself solely on being un PC and "stiring the pot" is good if your a comedian but doing so if your trying to present yourself as a serious political thinker is childish.