Infinity War Who will die in Infinity war Part 1 and 2

[Joefixit]

I will say this! If Stark or Cap or even both were to go, who would really tune in to see movies from the MCU. You’ve effectively eliminated your big gun!! Again, I realize the success the Black Panther is having, and I’m all for it and on board, but that movie in itself was great!!Thats not to say that He can carry the marvel universe.

And Wonder Woman was a great movie... But it didn’t do Avengers or Stark numbers. I said that to say, I don’t think Captain Marvel is a replacement for Captain America or Stark .. No way, no how. She’s no way as recognizable as Wonder Woman , so who in their right mind thinks that she can carry the marvel universe. And it has nothing to do with the fact that she’s another female hero and everything to do with she’s not over with the gq public.

Someone said Marvel killing Cap or stark is a bold move.. I go one step further and say that it’s suicide.. And no time travel movie can undo that, because then they effectively jump the shark anyway. I could be wrong, but I’m betting that not even marvel can overcome that catastrophe.

 

[MbJ]

I will say this! If Stark or Cap or even both were to go, who would really tune in to see movies from the MCU. You’ve effectively eliminated your big gun!! Again, I realize the success the Black Panther is having, and I’m all for it and on board, but that movie in itself was great!!Thats not to say that He can carry the marvel universe.

He wouldn't have to carry the whole universe himself. No single character carries the whole universe as of right now.

And Wonder Woman was a great movie... But it didn’t do Avengers or Stark numbers.

It actually made more money than the first two movies in both Captain America and Iron Man's series. The only Captain America movie that made more was Civil War (which had Iron Man and the Avengers) and Iron Man 3 (which had a huge boost as the first movie after The Avengers).

No way, no how. She’s no way as recognizable as Wonder Woman , so who in their right mind thinks that she can carry the marvel universe. And it has nothing to do with the fact that she’s another female hero and everything to do with she’s not over with the gq public.

I mean we just had Black Panther, a character who was also not as familiar as any of the A-listers, outgross them all. I'm sure Captain Marvel will do just fine.

Someone said Marvel killing Cap or stark is a bold move.. I go one step further and say that it’s suicide.. And no time travel movie can undo that, because then they effectively jump the shark anyway. I could be wrong, but I’m betting that not even marvel can overcome that catastrophe.

You could be right, but how many times have people predicted Marvel would fail on something?

Remember when Guardians of the Galaxy was gonna be the end of the MCU because nobody wanted to watch a movie about a talking raccoon and a walking tree? Or Ant-Man, a year later? Or even Black Panther, which people thought wasn't gonna perform well because it starred a black guy?

The MCU has shown the ability to overcome any perceived obstacle time and time again.

 

[Sin]

Captain America

Vision (Though I think the trailers are trying to trick us and he may live)

Hulk

Loki

Heimdall

Wong

Pepper Potts (I think she's wearing the armor in the trailer and gets punched by Thanos)

 

[Joefixit]

He wouldn't have to carry the whole universe himself. No single character carries the whole universe as of right now.



It actually made more money than the first two movies in both Captain America and Iron Man's series. The only Captain America movie that made more was Civil War (which had Iron Man and the Avengers) and Iron Man 3 (which had a huge boost as the first movie after The Avengers).




I mean we just had Black Panther, a character who was also not as familiar as any of the A-listers, outgross them all. I'm sure Captain Marvel will do just fine.



You could be right, but how many times have people predicted Marvel would fail on something?

Remember when Guardians of the Galaxy was gonna be the end of the MCU because nobody wanted to watch a movie about a talking raccoon and a walking tree? Or Ant-Man, a year later? Or even Black Panther, which people thought wasn't gonna perform well because it starred a black guy?

The MCU has shown the ability to overcome any perceived obstacle time and time again.

Black Panther had a great director and cast!! That was a great movie!! But again, he nor he and Captain Marvel together can carry the marvel ship.. especially if they know that there is no stark or cap out there. Guardians did good because again it was part of something bigger. You take those two characters out and you effectively kill the universe.

I would like to see the tracjectory of marvel if it does indeed take those two out. I don’t think it will Hurt Black Panther or Spider-Man, but I’m betting that those other movies with characters trying to get over will suffer.

Again.. I could be very wrong about this, but I’m not seeing it.

 

[dyl1dyl]

VISION SEEMS DEAD - AT LEAST ACCORDING TO THE PRESS

https://www.bustle.com/p/clues-that...y-war-are-adding-up-says-paul-bettany-8594970

https://nerdist.com/will-vision-die-in-avengers-infinity-war/

https://io9.gizmodo.com/vision-and-scarlet-witchs-romance-is-the-heart-of-aveng-1824001784

I still do find it a little wierd that all the signs point to Vision dying. Might be Marvel's idea to make it seem guaranteed that he dies, then actually have him live and maybe Scarlet Witch or someone else dies.

 

[Flemm]

You take those two characters out and you effectively kill the universe.

I don't think so. There was a time when people argued that Marvel Studios depended very heavily on RDJ, and that they couldn't have a big hit without him, but that can't be plausibly argued anymore.

Guardians has had 2 hit movies as a separate franchise, Thor and Hulk carried a movie to over 800M, Black Panther is the highest grossing superhero movie ever domestically, the newest incarnation of Spider-Man is already beloved.

Even Doctor Strange did really well, especially considering that his movie didn't have any crossover elements, nor had the character appeared in any Marvel films previously.

Also, when you look at the superhero movies that have been surprising, breakout hits recently, one thing that many have in common is the novelty factor. Guardians, Deadpool, Wonder Woman and Black Panther all had that going for them: basically they offered a new take on the genre, something fresh and different, in one way or another. So it doesn't really seem like audiences are close-minded about this stuff. There seems to be a huge market for new characters, and innovation in the genre.

Not to mention that Marvel Studios has access to additional characters now, some of whom are big names in their own right. (Unless that has changed recently? But anyway, that was the case the last I heard.)

So I don't see much reason to believe that the MCU lives and dies with Tony and Steve, tbh. Of course they are important, but I don't think that they have to be central characters in the future for the whole universe to work.

 

[parkerpete]

I don't think so. There was a time when people argued that Marvel Studios depended very heavily on RDJ, and that they couldn't have a big hit without him, but that can't be plausibly argued anymore.

Guardians has had 2 hit movies as a separate franchise, Thor and Hulk carried a movie to over 800M, Black Panther is the highest grossing superhero movie ever domestically, the newest incarnation of Spider-Man is already beloved.

Even Doctor Strange did really well, especially considering that his movie didn't have any crossover elements, nor had the character appeared in any Marvel films previously.

Also, when you look at the superhero movies that have been surprising, breakout hits recently, one thing that many have in common is the novelty factor. Guardians, Deadpool, Wonder Woman and Black Panther all had that going for them: basically they offered a new take on the genre, something fresh and different, in one way or another. So it doesn't really seem like audiences are close-minded about this stuff. There seems to be a huge market for new characters, and innovation in the genre.

Not to mention that Marvel Studios has access to additional characters now, some of whom are big names in their own right. (Unless that has changed recently? But anyway, that was the case the last I heard.)

So I don't see much reason to believe that the MCU lives and dies with Tony and Steve, tbh. Of course they are important, but I don't think that they have to be central characters in the future for the whole universe to work.

Yes, and the whole point of expanding the Marvel Universe is to set up a future beyond the original franchises. The MCU itself was a world-building exercise to showcase the B-list characters that Marvel still owned. They succeeded so profoundly that the most A-list property they had (Hulk) has now taken a supporting role behind Tony, Cap and Thor.

People who refuse to believe that Marvel would kill Tony or Steve are ignoring the point of the entire world-building venture of the MCU.

 

[dyl1dyl]

even in the set interviews, Paul Bettany and Lizzie Olsen are saying Vision is in huge danger and they don't know if he can live without the mind gem. 90% he's dead, 10% marvel trying to trick us?

 

[Y0nder]

I don't think so. There was a time when people argued that Marvel Studios depended very heavily on RDJ, and that they couldn't have a big hit without him, but that can't be plausibly argued anymore.

Guardians has had 2 hit movies as a separate franchise, Thor and Hulk carried a movie to over 800M, Black Panther is the highest grossing superhero movie ever domestically, the newest incarnation of Spider-Man is already beloved.

Even Doctor Strange did really well, especially considering that his movie didn't have any crossover elements, nor had the character appeared in any Marvel films previously.

Also, when you look at the superhero movies that have been surprising, breakout hits recently, one thing that many have in common is the novelty factor. Guardians, Deadpool, Wonder Woman and Black Panther all had that going for them: basically they offered a new take on the genre, something fresh and different, in one way or another. So it doesn't really seem like audiences are close-minded about this stuff. There seems to be a huge market for new characters, and innovation in the genre.

Not to mention that Marvel Studios has access to additional characters now, some of whom are big names in their own right. (Unless that has changed recently? But anyway, that was the case the last I heard.)

So I don't see much reason to believe that the MCU lives and dies with Tony and Steve, tbh. Of course they are important, but I don't think that they have to be central characters in the future for the whole universe to work.

Well said. Remember, Iron Man was a B-list Marvel character, no one would ever think he would carry a franchise. He wasn't like Spider-Man as far as iconic status goes.

 

[CyclopsSummers]

Black Widow will die
(if she wont take back her Civil War' hairstyle)

 

[007]

Stark
vision
spider man (killed in third bought back int the fourth)
Hawkeye
Cap
Drax
loki

 

[NotNickFury]

I will say this! If Stark or Cap or even both were to go, who would really tune in to see movies from the MCU.

The same people who saw the movies when they were alive and were responsible for turning a new character like Black Panther into a billion dollar franchise.

 

[wampa1]

Of the mains, I'm actually going with no-one. The deaths will be in Avengers 4.

 

[Y0nder]

The same people who saw the movies when they were alive and were responsible for turning a new character like Black Panther into a billion dollar franchise.

Make that a billion dollar FRIGGIN' franchise, only you didn't say friggin'.

Amen.

 

[SteveRogers41]

Black Panther had a great director and cast!! That was a great movie!! But again, he nor he and Captain Marvel together can carry the marvel ship.. especially if they know that there is no stark or cap out there. Guardians did good because again it was part of something bigger. You take those two characters out and you effectively kill the universe.

I would like to see the tracjectory of marvel if it does indeed take those two out. I don’t think it will Hurt Black Panther or Spider-Man, but I’m betting that those other movies with characters trying to get over will suffer.

Again.. I could be very wrong about this, but I’m not seeing it.

I agree. I'm not everyone, so I wont speak for everyone, but if they kill Cap, I'm out. One because I don't feel his arc is finished (they introduced the Accords and the Nomad storyline, they need to resolve that) and two because no other character interests me as much as he does. I have zero desire to see his mantle passed. Zero. And I'm a comic reader! (with comics, whenever a legacy character takes a mantle there's always the understanding that the original will eventually return and that the situation is not permanent).

The MCU could very well go on and do okay, but it will be without my monetary contribution. I'm a firm believer in voting with your dollars.

 

[Flash525]

Gotta admit, Strange's death would definitely accomplish that. But I'll grant you that he is not the only one who's death would accomplish surprise.

I'm betting on the big guy.

I still think Drax is one who'll die. Especially since Gunn has sorta hinted at that.

I'm of the shared opinion that they aren't going to kill a Guardian off outside of a Guardians film, with the exception of (maybe) Nebula. That being said though, if a Guardian were to die, it would be an unexpected death.

I've always wondered about Drax too; in GotG, he has a vendetta against Ronan for killing his family (his exact words) but he also states that Thanos has to die for the exact same reason, so who was actually at fault here? Thanos, or Ronan, because their alliance seemed new, whereas he loss of Drax's family seemed old.

I will say this! If Stark or Cap or even both were to go, who would really tune in to see movies from the MCU. You’ve effectively eliminated your big gun!! Again, I realize the success the Black Panther is having, and I’m all for it and on board, but that movie in itself was great!!Thats not to say that He can carry the marvel universe.

I think the MCU has moved beyond having a titular hero as it now stands; we've moved on from the solo heroes - at least with the exception of Captain Marvel. Ant Man 2 will include the Wasp (and likely on a smaller scale), and anything else in the pipeline will likely be more ensemble films, maybe with the exception of the Spider-Man sequels. Even the likes of Black Panther isn't just about Black Panther anymore, so if Rogers or Stark (or even both) die, I'll still be watching every film released, because these characters helped to create something bigger than themselves.

I don't think they'll kill either of them off until Avengers 4, but one of them is bound to die. I will feel a bit cheated if they're both still standing by IW's sequel conclusion. If these films are about high stakes, then we need to see the results of those stakes, and one such stake should really be the death of a titular character; of which is generally considered to be Rogers, Stark & Thor, and I think Thor has gone through enough lately, which leaves only two.

I still do find it a little wierd that all the signs point to Vision dying. Might be Marvel's idea to make it seem guaranteed that he dies, then actually have him live and maybe Scarlet Witch or someone else dies.

See, I think, at least from the earlier trailers that everyone thought Vision was going to die after seeing [someone] trying to pry that stone from his head. People expected that to be the death scene - or an implication that he'll die, only for him to live, only to die later. I'd be surprised if Vision lives through this to be honest. I fully suspect him to be one of the casualties.

 

[Confusion]

Black Widow will die
(if she wont take back her Civil War' hairstyle)

I would be 100% OK with that.

 

[Maxima]

GA watches Marvel movies for entertainment, not for some particular characters. Marvel fans are usually interested in a variety of characters, not just a couple of them. If popular characters die, this won't be the end of MCU.

 

[NHawk19]

They won't kill Tony simply because they need Stark Industries and Tony has no heir apparent. Wakanda is definitely your next technical innovator but they're also a sovereign government.

If the Baxter Building was established, Pym Tech was still functioning, or S.H.I.E.L.D. was back to normal, maybe they would. However, I can't see them killing him off just because of the story functionality he provides.

Cap I could see going down fighting.
Vision could just because of the mindstone, and because he's way to powerful to write around. He's basically MCU Superman. IFW gives you the ability to augment his powers or eliminate him from the equation.
Loki I want to stick around and just be cast out, but could easily see them killing off.
If Heimdall is/has the soulstone I see him dying protecting it.
Nebula is the only Guardian I can see as expendable right now.
No one from Black Panther is going anywhere.
No one from Dr. Strange is going anywhere.

Other option is Thanos wins and wipes out almost everyone in this film, only to have a small crew escape (Guessing Dr. Strange would shift people to an alternate dimension) and plan for a future attack that establishes new realities, alternate timelines, and dimensions moving forward.

 

[Spider-Fan]

They won't kill Tony simply because they need Stark Industries and Tony has no heir apparent. Wakanda is definitely your next technical innovator but they're also a sovereign government.

If the Baxter Building was established, Pym Tech was still functioning, or S.H.I.E.L.D. was back to normal, maybe they would. However, I can't see them killing him off just because of the story functionality he provides.

Cap I could see going down fighting.
Vision could just because of the mindstone, and because he's way to powerful to write around. He's basically MCU Superman. IFW gives you the ability to augment his powers or eliminate him from the equation.
Loki I want to stick around and just be cast out, but could easily see them killing off.
If Heimdall is/has the soulstone I see him dying protecting it.
Nebula is the only Guardian I can see as expendable right now.
No one from Black Panther is going anywhere.
No one from Dr. Strange is going anywhere.

Other option is Thanos wins and wipes out almost everyone in this film, only to have a small crew escape (Guessing Dr. Strange would shift people to an alternate dimension) and plan for a future attack that establishes new realities, alternate timelines, and dimensions moving forward.

Yes they do. Pepper basically runs the company.

 

[Darkmania]

On IMDB, Tom Holland is not listed in the cast for the Avengers movie that comes after infinity wars. Does this mean anything?

 

[Venom'sDad]

Hmmm...my theory is Cap dies in this film. Don't be fooled about A4. Cap is dead. A4 is all about Tony using BARF to get the answer he needs to defeat Thanos. There is no time-traveling or none of that. How is that possible when Thanos has the Time gem. Cap is dead & Tony lives....that's his anxiety come true.

 

[NHawk19]

Yes they do. Pepper basically runs the company.

She's Tim Cook to Tony's Steve Jobs.

Good at managing and running things but she hasn't been shown to have that Vision for it.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Hmmm...my theory is Cap dies in this film. Don't be fooled about A4. Cap is dead. A4 is all about Tony using BARF to get the answer he needs to defeat Thanos. There is no time-traveling or none of that. How is that possible when Thanos has the Time gem. Cap is dead & Tony lives....that's his anxiety come true.

I see it as his ability to prevent it is what Tony was shown. Specifically, he could have done more. If the vision just comes to pass, then there is no payoff for Tony other than just not being able to stop it. It's a superhero film, so the good guys will win in the end, and for me, that means Tony exchanging his life for theirs. THAT is payoff. Not just watching it happen.

 

[Spider-Fan]

She's Tim Cook to Tony's Steve Jobs.

Good at managing and running things but she hasn't been shown to have that Vision for it.

There will be a new emerging genius possibly, once Fox and Disney are done exchanging assets

Maybe Avengers tower is not all he buys.