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Apocalypse Who Will Die?

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I've written about this elsewhere, but figured it's worth having the discussion

In most of these super hero movies, especially in the X-Men, characters die. In many ways this is an important element that is used to show the general audience the seriousness of the issues and to help expand on the characters by having us experience their loss.

For example:

In X-Men there wasn't a lot of deaths, being that that movie kind of started off the whole new generation of super hero movies, but Senator Kelly's death was vitol in showing the GA that what Magneto was doing was serous. That stopping him and his forces was critical.

In X-Men 2 things got more serious, with the story being about control and a society divided out of fear. The deaths didn't come until the climax, but there were more than we saw previously. Lady Deathstrike (done terribly) was killed by Wolverine. Stryker was left to die (and assumed dead) by Magneto. And then of course Jean had to sacrifice herself in order to save her fellow X-Men (did she really?).

Then in Last Stand the deaths were taken to the nth degree (darn you Ratner!). Scott was killed off almost instantly (Darn you Ratner!), but hey, we got Jean back. I guess that's not a bad trade, except this turned out to be crazy Jean. A moment later and we got to see Professor X disintegrate in front of us, with a smile on his face no less (Darn you Ratner!). There were a few other minor deaths in order to show how srious all of this was, including Dr. Rao (who?) and Callisto (or was that a female Quicksilver with a bad tatoo? - Darn you Ratner!).

Then we got to start over, thankfully (Darn you Ratner!) with First Class, but the theme of using death to show us the importance of what is going on was still used. One of the new recruits, Darwin, was killed by Shaw making us realize that there will always be loss. The death of Erik's mother was also used to show us how tortured he is. Colonel Hendry's death was also used to show the GA that Shaw needed to be stopped, and that killing Shaw would be ok. And of course, the conclusion of the threat came when Magneto got his revenge on Shaw.

Next came Days of Future Past, giving us both casts. This one was interesting because they were able to kill some main characters, but they weren't really killed. The concept of being able to go back and get a do-over allowed us to see characters like Colossus, Sunspot (was that really Sunspot - or was that Sunfire?), Warpath and Iceman getting off'd. It was interesting that no one of importance, in the past, died, but the future scenes gave the audience what it needed.

So, the question now, the purpose of this thread, is who will die in this Apocalypse movie.

With an expected cast of Professor X, Beast, young Storm, young Scott, young Jean, Nightcrawler (maybe), Gambit, Wolverine, Mystique and Magneto; I can't see any of them being killed.

But, there are still plenty of options for giving the GA the deaths they need to see the seriousness of the story. Mystique or Mags are likely to have a Brotherhood with possible characters like Ink, Toad, and others. There are rumors of Blink being in this movie (how exactly is that possible?) as well.

Then there are the forces of Apocalypse. We expect that he'll have his Horsemen, and maybe others as well. This is where this discussion becomes interesting...

If the Horsemen are all known characters it's pretty difficult to kill them off. For example, if the Horsemen are Wolverine, Magneto, Mystique and say Havok; would they be willing to kill any of them? Maybe Havok, but no way would Mags, Mystique or Wolvie get the Axe.

So, if I had to predict the deaths in Apocalypse, I'd say that at least one of Mystique's (or Magneto's) Brotherhood members (if they have the Brotherhood) will die. Sucks to be Ink, huh? (My best guess is that Toad would live on...). And then I have to believe that at least one of the Horsemen, if not two, will not make it. This supports, IMO, the concept that only one or two of the Horsemen will be known, main characters, like Wolverine or Magneto. This would also lean towards those disposable Horsemen being new, and/or lesser important characters, like Plague or Abraham Kieros.

So, who do you believe will die in the Apocalypse movie?

Will Apocalypse live on?

Will they kill any of the main, known characters?

Do you agree that there will be death in a movie that includes Apocalypse as the main baddie?
 
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I think until we know fully who will be in the movie we should hold off on this, we still dont know the full scope of characters or plot or anything like that
 
That's kinda the problem with seeing them alive in the future, we know they won't die. Same with Avengers, you knew Iron Man and Thor would survive as they had movies the following year.
 
I think they can deliver an awesome film without any X-Men dying. But I also think that they need to give Professor X a fight scene where he's not hypnotized, knocked out or handicapped. In other words, an epic telepath fight of some sort.
Also, there's no James McAvoy thread here yet.
 
Probably some of the horsemen except for Wolverine or Professor X of course.
 
^ Which would support the idea that not all of the Horsemen will be known, important characters.

Sure, if Toad or Ink were a Horseman they could be killed off, but not Wolverine, Magneto, Professor X, Mystique, etc...
 
The movie can still be interesting with us knowing the Core XMen are still alive i think that ruins nothing, I dont think anyone needs to die.
 
The movie can still be interesting with us knowing the Core XMen are still alive i think that ruins nothing, I dont think anyone needs to die.

Exactly! I do not know why some people are making this an issue. People knew that Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor will not die in The Avengers because of Iron Man 3, Thor 2, and Captain America: The Winter Soldier.
 
The movie can still be interesting with us knowing the Core XMen are still alive i think that ruins nothing, I dont think anyone needs to die.

Watching First Class, of course I knew Mystique/ProfX/Magneto/Beast were not going to die and that didn't stop the climax to be great. But then.... they kept Angel Salvadore, Azazel and Riptide alive and let them join Magneto's army and in the next film, they are dead and killed off screen. :o I don't want that scenario in Apocalypse and future X-Men movies.
 
I don't see them killing either Magneto or Mystique. Too much potential with those characters/actors. Obviously everyone at mansion at end of DOFP makes out alive. So that leaves a character like Havok or Quicksilver maybe. But they don't need to kill anyone IMO.
 
I don't see them killing either Magneto or Mystique. Too much potential with those characters/actors. Obviously everyone at mansion at end of DOFP makes out alive. So that leaves a character like Havok or Quicksilver maybe. But they don't need to kill anyone IMO.

Interesting fact, Havok was originally one of the ones that died in the early draft of DoFP. They didn't want to completely cut down the possibility of a family tree for Cyclops though, so they left him in.
 
oh wait, can't apocalypse resurrect people? In that case, then anyone could die :P
 
I think until we know fully who will be in the movie we should hold off on this, we still dont know the full scope of characters or plot or anything like that

Yeah pretty much. Characters could fall in and out even if they are confirmed. We need an official cast list to go this far. Those of us who've read the comics probably know what happens. It's down to what Singer decides to do regardless of the script.
 
I think we all agree that for the movie to be good someone doesn't necessarily have to die. But my point is that more often than not the writer kills someone off, whether we, the GA, believe it's needed or not.

So, let me phrase the question like this...

Based on what we know and who likely can't/won't die, which character do you think will die, if someone does?
 
I know this won't happen but just for fun, imagine for a split second if Cyclops will be the one to die. At that point they would have crossed the line between pure anger and pure hilarity :cmad: :funny:.

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I know this won't happen but just for fun, imagine for a split second if Cyclops will be the one to die. At that point they would have crossed the line between pure anger and pure hilarity :cmad: :funny:.

Ain't_even_mad.gif

Rooooooooooooofffllllzlzzzzzzzzzz
I would be out raged
 
I know this won't happen but just for fun, imagine for a split second if Cyclops will be the one to die. At that point they would have crossed the line between pure anger and pure hilarity :cmad: :funny:.

Ain't_even_mad.gif

He won't die, we already saw him alive at the new future. So he's alive.
 
Starting to agree with some that it will be Mystique...

It can't be any of the ones we saw in the Wolvie wake-up scene, so that takes away a good portion of the X-Men, including Professor X, Beast, Jean and Scott and Ororo.

That leaves:

Mystique
Havok
Moira (hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Kurt
Jubilee
Psylocke
Quicksilver
Magneto (could see that - good way to tie up the trilogy)
 
Why do we have two threads on this?
 
I didn't even know this one existed.... and its weird that the creator of this thread bumped it when there's already a new thread which also has a poll.
 

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