Sequels Who would be the villain for SM4?

[Venom'sDad]

GoldGoblin, I'm interested to know, why you want Scorpion in SM4, or why you believe he's a good choice for the film.

 

[venom628]

Carnage lizard and venom should be the villains for SM4.

 

[Morgoth]

I have a feeling Venom's going to continue into 4, maybe have Elektro as a secondary villian, if they keep going with more than one bad guy.

Or maybe like in the Ultimate book, have Spidey fighting the Shocker in the beginning, maybe have Webhead foil a bank robbery that he is comitting.

Just a few thoughts.

 

[GoldGoblin]

GoldGoblin, I'm interested to know, why you want Scorpion in SM4, or why you believe he's a good choice for the film.

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I was thinking you have spidey vs the Lizard at the beginning of the first half of the movie,then Kraven shows up in the middle of the movie.Where we see a fight where all three fight each other at the same time.

Somewhere in the fight the Lizard kills John Jameson and Kraven,and spidey turns the Lizard back into Dr.Connors.I was thinking the start of the fight could be in Dr.Connors lab where Peter is helping him with an experiment when John Jameson comes into the room to confront Peter about MJ.

And during this time Dr.Connors is having a seizure where he is about to turn into the Lizard,and as Dr.Connors is about to inject himself with the antidote he and Peter has just made,Kraven breaks through the window which causes Dr.Connors to drop the syringe and it gets lost with all the broken glass on the floor.

Then The Lizard appears where John Jameson sees that Peter is spidey for just a split second until the Lizard kills him.And then we see a three way fight where spidey,Lizard,and Kraven all fight each other at the same time until the Lizard kills Kraven and spidey defeats the Lizard by curing Dr.Connors with the injection of the syringe.

Then on the last half of the movie you see how college students saying to reporters on the news how they came to the room when they heard all the noise just as they got there,they saw spidey going out the window where a dead John Jameson is lying.

JJJ blames spidey for the death,and creates the Scorpion where we see a spidey vs Scorpion fight.

 

[Victarion]

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I was thinking you have spidey vs the Lizard at the beginning of the first half of the movie,then Kraven shows up in the middle of the movie.Where we see a fight where all three fight each other at the same time.

Somewhere in the fight the Lizard kills John Jameson and Kraven,and spidey turns the Lizard back into Dr.Connors.I was thinking the start of the fight could be in Dr.Connors lab where Peter is helping him with an experiment when John Jameson comes into the room to confront Peter about MJ.

And during this time Dr.Connors is having a seizure where he is about to turn into the Lizard,and as Dr.Connors is about to inject himself with the antidote he and Peter has just made,Kraven breaks through the window which causes Dr.Connors to drop the syringe and it gets lost with all the broken glass on the floor.

Then The Lizard appears where John Jameson sees that Peter is spidey for just a split second until the Lizard kills him.And then we see a three way fight where spidey,Lizard,and Kraven all fight each other at the same time until the Lizard kills Kraven and spidey defeats the Lizard by curing Dr.Connors with the injection of the syringe.

Then on the last half of the movie you see how college students saying to reporters on the news how they came to the room when they heard all the noise just as they got there,they saw spidey going out the window where a dead John Jameson is lying.

JJJ blames spidey for the death,and creates the Scorpion where we see a spidey vs Scorpion fight.

^It all sounds great, sans Kraven. I think Lizard and Scorpion would suffice.

And Venom'sDad, I was just making a joke to tease those who think the symbiote's fate leaves no way for Carnage to appear. t:

 

[Tails]

Here's an article that came out today and says Morlun will be the villian.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Exclusive-Spider-Man-4-Villain-Revealed-4739.html

 

[GoldGoblin]

Here's an article that came out today and says Morlun will be the villian.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Exclusive-Spider-Man-4-Villain-Revealed-4739.html

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That would be a huge mistake.

 

[Victarion]

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That would be a huge mistake.

Yup. If so, this movie's take could drop faster than the attendance levels at an Avril Lavigne concert.

 

[Spiderine]

I wouldn't put anything into this.

 

[Parquagh]

I say Lizard, but I found here something about Morlun.... http://www.esmas.com/espectaculos/cine/613823.html

anyone has a more reliable source?

 

[yugh2]

I say bring on the clone saga. How cool would it be to see scarlet spider on the big screen.

 

[Gotham22]

most likely Lizard since Dr. Conners was in the second film and is in the upcoming third film.

 

[zeptron]

I would say that the most likely candidates of villains in future Spidey movies would be:

Lizard - 99.9% sure
Carnage - almost as positive as Lizard, but only because they have already set up the symbiote storyline
Electro - 60% sure (he's something new, and is popular among comic-book fans)
Venom - 60% sure (he's what fans want)
Vulture - 40% sure (only if Raimi is directing, because he had mentioned that he enjoyed reading about Vulture)
Rhino or Shocker - 10% sure (if they ever have an opening scene with Spidey kicking some dumbass around)

So, the main villains would almost positively be either Lizard, Carnage, Electro, or maybe even a return of Eddie/Venom. And the only reason I didn't mention Hobgoblin or Demogoblin is because I feel that after Harry, they're gonna be done with the whole "goblin" thing.

 

[Venom'sDad]

IMO, one cannot discount the use of Rod Kingsley/HobGoblin from the context of future stories. Simply because of the millionare and CEO of a military/engineering/research/manufacturing company, that would be responsible for creating alot of these villains. Kingsley is a businessman that could do this, especially if he either buys & take-over Oscorps, or discover their technology & secrets as his own.

 

[BxB402]

Morlun in SM4, huh? Most likely a BS story.

IMO having a vampire-esque villain in Spider-man 4 would be a HUGE mistake. there are plenty of other Spidey villains out there to be making sequels as good or better than the others for a long time. For SM4 Lizard is the obvious choice for one, since they have already started, and are continuing in sm3, the build up of the Dr. Connors charachter. I would love to see more multiple villain movies as well, it will work better than just one per movie. In that aspect SM3 is going to be great, even if it's not exactly like the comics. Bit part villains would be excellent too, as in they are not part of the main story, but pop up for a fight, as if they are just part of the criminal element.

IMAGINE(just an example) in SM4 have The Lizard as the main rampaging villain, maybe add another more personal or "highly dangerous master plan" type villain, and then just have an enemy show up at the beginning or something for a seemingly "every day battle with crime and crazy people". Have one or multiple villains as an element of crime moreso than the big personal dramatic enemies he has faced so far. Shocker or Rhino work well for this. Shocker and Rhino don't need big story arcs and drawn out dramatic personalization in good spidey movie, all they need is a good fight scene cameo and an end that that leaves them open to return someday, sooner or later. Make them seem like criminals with special equipment doing what regular criminals would, which in most cases Rhino and Shocker were.

We can only really guess at what could be in store for SM4, or if they find a "Worse/GoodEnough/better" replacement for those leaving the series(if they do). But the demand for spiderman films will only grow after 3, and slacking off and making a horribly done 4, with stupid villains(such as Morbius or Morlun or Man-wolf)would be an incredibly bad move.
We Want Superhero/SuperVillain action not vampires and werewolves! Lets see Scorpion, Vulture, Shocker, Rhino, Mysterio, Hob-Goblin(non-osbourn goblin), Kraven, Chameleon, Electro, More Venom(if possible)or Carnage(which if done right, could stay PG13 and still show the murderous psychotic craziness that is Kassiday) i could go on about what makes these villains worthy for sequels to come. I just think using werewolf and vampire villains would be a horrible mistake for continuing the movie series. Guess we will just have to look to the future and hope to the fates that if Raimi doesn't return the notoriously ******ed movie companies and nutbar directors(xmen3 anyone?) don't completely screw up what is about to be one of few amazing trilogys, and if followed up sincerely by a director that really cares about the series, charachters and mythology and not just making it "unique", become one of the nearly non-existant excellent quadrilogy or plus series.**crosses fingers**

BTW. For SM4 my top votes go to The Lizard(which is the most likely) and either Carnage(wet dream anyone?) Scorpion or Vulture. Of course also including a cameo from Rhino or Shocker like i previously stated in my overinflated rant. t:

 

[GoldGoblin]

IMO, one cannot discount the use of Rod Kingsley/HobGoblin from the context of future stories. Simply because of the millionare and CEO of a military/engineering/research/manufacturing company, that would be responsible for creating alot of these villains. Kingsley is a businessman that could do this, especially if he either buys & take-over Oscorps, or discover their technology & secrets as his own.

^

 

[zeptron]

The Gibbon
The Grizzly
The Squid
Spider-clone
Jackal
The Walrus
White Rabbit
Stegron
The Spot
Rocket Racer
Hypno-Hustler
Slyde
Big Wheel
Silvermane
Hammerhead
Tombstone
Molten-Man
Razorback
Prowler
Will O' The Wisp
Chance
The Puma
Vermin
Shriek
Kaine
Judas Traveller
Scrier

...The most obscure Spidey foes who will not and should not be in #4.

 

[Spiderine]

What about Puma?

 

[GoldGoblin]

The Gibbon
The Grizzly
The Squid
Spider-clone
Jackal
The Walrus
White Rabbit
Stegron
The Spot
Rocket Racer
Hypno-Hustler
Slyde
Big Wheel
Silvermane
Hammerhead
Tombstone
Molten-Man
Razorback
Prowler
Will O' The Wisp
Chance
The Puma
Vermin
Shriek
Kaine
Judas Traveller
Scrier

...The most obscure Spidey foes who will not and should not be in #4.

^The Prowler could actually be cool.

 

[Grievous]

maybe Scorpion,Shocker,Lizard

 

[pjspider1C]

When Spider-Man 4 comes around, and if they keep the current storyline from the previous movies, my predictions for Spider-Man 4 would be The Lizard and Black Cat. Dr. Connors has been in 2 and 3, it makes sense to go down that road. And Black Cat was in one of the early scripts for Spider-Man 2, so they might look at bringing her back.

If Raimi sticks around, we know he likes to use villians whose face you can see (that was one of the things about the 1st Green Goblin that he wasn't too fond of) and who is also visually interesting.

And if those two villians aren't enough, I'd put my vote in for Electro. I think they could do some bad-ass things with him.

 

[Mr Jide]

Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing spidy turning into man-spider.

 

[RaZaTrOn]

I think Morlun wouldn't be that bad, I trust Raimi 100% in making a successful Spidey movie and i think he would make Morlun an interesting villain one which won't disappoint anyone. So if he is the villain it wouldn't bother me. Sure there are other villains i would really like to see but I'm not going to complain if i don't see them. As long as it's a good interesting movie.

 

[pjspider1C]

I think Morlun wouldn't be that bad, I trust Raimi 100% in making a successful Spidey movie and i think he would make Morlun an interesting villain one which won't disappoint anyone. So if he is the villain it wouldn't bother me. Sure there are other villains i would really like to see but I'm not going to complain if i don't see them. As long as it's a good interesting movie.

Morlun would be cool to see. However, the only reason they won't do it is because he's too new and there's a whole back-log of classic rogue gallery villains that people have been waiting 30+ years to see. Even Venom is almost 20 years old. Morlun's only been around for what... 2 years?

 

[Advanced Dark]

Kraven damnit.