Who would you wipe from the cimena history books?

Brett Ratner - I will never forgive him for X3
Ben Afflack - Don't ask, I just don't like the guy
Paris Hilton - SHe should just be erased from life
 
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I was a kid when I went to see this, and afterwards, I was all...so this is a bad movie, waves of disgust and disapointment.:csad: :huh: :csad: .

How bout she not fight the Jaberwockey next time around.
 
We really need to create a Joel Schumacher thread. Just because everything else he's done has been excellent, but one flop and suddenly he's the fanboy anti-christ. A flop from 10 years ago. It don't make no sense.

I'd say 3 flops: Batman Forever, Batman and Robin and Number 23.
 
It's wonderful how only the terrible producers are remember but no one remembers any of the worthwhile producers... And I can pretty much assure you, that behind every movie you love that you should thanking the producer for making it happen.

Great words :word: :up:
 
I'd say 3 flops: Batman Forever, Batman and Robin and Number 23.

Batman Forever wasn't a flop by any means. True it's not the route I and the majority of Batfans would've taken after Returns, but it had a huge box office and unlike it's Mr. Freeze-filled counterpart, Forever is tolerable.

10 years ago was 97; he was talking about "B&R"

And I haven't seen Number 23, but it sounds like I don't have to.

CFE
 
No, I do remember producers.

I commend Jon Davison for taking a chance on Robocop
I praise Michael Uslan and Ben Melniker for getting Batman onto the big screen

Debra Hill for Halloween, and the late Moustapha Akkad for continuing it to the point where we can be given a new vision from Rob Zombie.

Gale Anne Hurd for what I consider to be the prime of Cameron's films (T1, Abyss, Aliens, T2)

Scott Mosier for the Kevin Smith films.
Allen Ladd Jr. for getting 20th Century to take a chance on both Alien and Star Wars.

And most recently Spielberg, whose enthusiasm I'm sure was one of the deciding factors in Transformers.

Don't misinterpret me, I'm quite aware of how hard producers work.

I was just pointing out a not-so-good producer scenario.

Another one is David Giler. If you've seen the Alien documenteries, you know exactly what I mean. He comes off as such a dick in those.

CFE

I apologize, I stand corrected :)
 
Batman Forever wasn't a flop by any means. True it's not the route I and the majority of Batfans would've taken after Returns, but it had a huge box office and unlike it's Mr. Freeze-filled counterpart, Forever is tolerable.

10 years ago was 97; he was talking about "B&R"

And I haven't seen Number 23, but it sounds like I don't have to.

CFE

Yep, BF wasn't bx office flop, but it still sucked.

You're right, it was a very big disapointment :(
 
Against.

The Paris bashing is getting really old.

eh...the way she's acted, her lack of responsibilities, and her consistent flaunting around of her supposed "fame" despite the fact that she's only famous for being a shallow, superficial and self absorbed floozie riding the coattails of her families' Hotel chain fortune...

Paris was asking for it. And I don't buy her sense of reform post-prison either...:o

It is rather sad that she's the only person I'd consider to be widely and universally reviled. But she took it upon herself to act like a snobby b**ch all this time, so I feel no remorse whatsoever in all the bashing she gets.

CFE
 
eh...the way she's acted, her lack of responsibilities, and her consistent flaunting around of her supposed "fame" despite the fact that she's only famous for being a shallow, superficial and self absorbed floozie riding the coattails of her families' Hotel chain fortune...

Paris was asking for it. And I don't buy her sense of reform post-prison either...:o

It is rather sad that she's the only person I'd consider to be widely and universally reviled. But she took it upon herself to act like a snobby b**ch all this time, so I feel no remorse whatsoever in all the bashing she gets.

CFE

From what I hear, she's none of those things. One of my coworkers had met her one time for a modeling thing and said she was a really nice person.

Just because she's rich and grew up spoiled doesn't necessarily mean she's a ***** or that she's snobby.
 
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Oh, come on! :cmad:

OMG YES!!!

The Disney Channel stars have got to GO!

To all Disney Channel stars: You might as well stop acting, because god know there will be a reckoning that awaits you when you realize the path you're taking.

The same path as Britney Spears and Lindsey Lohan...hmmmm???

That means you, started-out-healthy-looking-but-now-slightly-chubby-but-not-in-a-cute-way Sprouse Twins!

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CFE
 
^Man, that one on the right needs to quit with the Hostess pies in his dressing room.
 
From what I hear, she's none of those things. One of my coworkers had met her one time for a modeling thing and said she was a really nice person.

Just because she's rich and grew up spoiled doesn't necessarily mean she's a ***** or that she's snobby.

Then why bother going to the trouble of setting up a "snobbish heiress" persona?

If she were really a nice person, she wouldn't have had to go to prison to come up with the idea "hey, I've got money and influence and I could actually do something significant."

Too late, Hilton. I'm pretty sure no one takes her seriously at all.

CFE
 
Then why bother going to the trouble of setting up a "snobbish heiress" persona?

The media did that. Not her.

If she were really a nice person, she wouldn't have had to go to prison to come up with the idea "hey, I've got money and influence and I could actually do something significant."

So because she doesn't do many significant things that'll change the world, that makes her a mean person?
 

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