Whose Smarter than this Teenage?

[Kitsune]

She might be. It only requires a 140+ IQ. I have that. However, unfortunately, that does exclude someone from acting like an idiot or wasting said talent.

It really isn't that big a deal my IQ is between 143 and 145. Hopefully I'm smarter than Madona.

 

[Diamondhead]

Galactus.

and i also think that the leader might have more brain power than reed richard

 

[Diamondhead]

Dumb.

Do you know how large is the universe?
Actually there's more planet in the universe than you can count grains of sand on the planet earth!

 

[KangConquers]

Do you know how large is the universe?
Actually there's more planet in the universe than you can count grains of sand on the planet earth!

Bah. I always just figured Galactus had a herald because he was too busy doing cool cosmic stuff to look for his own food.

Kind of like a rich guy who sends a servant out to get food for him.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Something I forgot about that Wiki reminded me about, Xavier has a superhuman ability to absorb information from a large number of different sources at the same time. He has a special room at the mansion for this purpose, filled with multiple screens, computers and other info sources that he just sits in to absorb raw information.

 

[Diamondhead]

I remembered in and old FF comic
Galactus has some kind of galactic zoo in his spaceship
Just like superman TAS has one in his fortress.

Which means he has other preocupation than just eating planets?
Beside I’ve always guess that Galactus spaceship might be way bigger on the inside
just like doctor who's

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Galactus' ship is pretty big on the outside as it is.

 

[The Question]

It's so big that there are moons and planets caught in it's gravitational field.

 

[KangConquers]

I remembered in and old FF comic
Galactus has some kind of galactic zoo in his spaceship
Just like superman TAS has one in his fortress.

Which means he has other preocupation than just eating planets?
Beside I’ve always guess that Galactus spaceship might be way bigger on the inside
just like doctor who's

I imagine being as intelligent as Galactus is, he has all sorts of interests and pet projects that we don't know about.

If he lived only for survival, he'd be no better than an animal.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

The 616 Beast has diversified his knowledge into virtually every field of human knowledge. When the Dark Beast impersonated the 616 Beast he was astonished at the range of knowledge that the X-Men assumed that he had. His knowledge includes not only biochem which is his specialty, having a doctorate, but also: art, literature, cooking, music and multiple languages.

Galactus' original space station Taa II was said to be solar system sized.

 

[KangConquers]

The 616 Beast has diversified his knowledge into virtually every field of human knowledge. When the Dark Beast impersonated the 616 Beast he was astonished at the range of knowledge that the X-Men assumed that he had. His knowledge includes not only biochem which is his specialty, having a doctorate, but also: art, literature, cooking, music and multiple languages.

Galactus' original space station Taa II was said to be solar system sized.

Hah...that had to be pain to get around in.

"Damn, I left the toilet paper in the outer nebula of sector 9."

 

[KangConquers]

Another example of greatly underrating a character's intellect; Count Nefaria.

The handbook lists Nefaria as above average. Not even Gifted.

Nefaria is no genius, but I'm certainly not imagining him with anything lower than a 130 IQ (gifted.)

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't think the Handbooks really go by IQ scores. Spider-Man's IQ is probably well past the genius mark, but I think he deserves his "Gifted" status because he hasn't devoted himself to learning anything for too long. The potential's there but he hasn't used it for much and he hasn't gotten educated too far past a bachelor's degree. If Reed Richards had gotten his powers earlier and were too preoccupied to learn all of the stuff that makes him such a super-genius now, I bet he'd be ranked a lot lower than arguably "the smartest man on Earth."

 

[KangConquers]

I don't think the Handbooks really go by IQ scores. Spider-Man's IQ is probably well past the genius mark, but I think he deserves his "Gifted" status because he hasn't devoted himself to learning anything for too long. The potential's there but he hasn't used it for much and he hasn't gotten educated too far past a bachelor's degree. If Reed Richards had gotten his powers earlier and were too preoccupied to learn all of the stuff that makes him such a super-genius now, I bet he'd be ranked a lot lower than arguably "the smartest man on Earth."

True...also there's a debate about how to use the term genius in most schools of thought anyway...

 

[Kitsune]

Hah...that had to be pain to get around in.

"Damn, I left the toilet paper in the outer nebula of sector 9."

That would truly require going beyond the rim.

 

[Varient]

During the marriage of Sue and Reed, Ben asked who the bald guy was. Sue told him it was Charles Xavier a man "just as brilliant as Reed." Now obviously, Xavier's not quite on Reed's level, but I'd put him above Spidey.

Spidey really is a tough case, because he may have the intelligence to fit the bill, but we're comparing a 28 year old with a graduate level education, and no recognized accomplishments, to Nobel prize winning doctors, time travellers, and total Leonardo Davinci types.

True...at the same time, that maybe personal choice, and the result of the place they wound up in. Scarlet Centurion wound up in an alternate 20th century, some place easy to subdue. Kang wound up in the 40th century. That experience probably shaped him into someone who values war over diplomacy.

If you read Avengers Forever #9, you see that Kang is a capable leader+ Governor.

Dark Beast is a better geneticist than regular Beast, but Dark Beast doesn't have the overall scientific knowledge that his 616 counterpart has; I guess you could say Dark Beast's genius is more concentrated in one area.

Yeah, ****, if even Kitty Pryde (who I consider to be a minor genius by Comic standards) was in our actual world, she'd probably have a 160 IQ, yet various handbooks list her as gifted. As for highest recorded, it's like 216, but Leonardo Davinci is believed to have had an IQ well into the 200s.

I have a genius IQ too (148). Unfortunately, here we are...both debating the intelligence of fictional characters.

How much "stock" do you put on those numbers?


(Only 137 last time I was tested,... with each previous test being lower,... leading me to believe that the numbers are in relation to "common knowledge")

 

[Silicon Surfer]

I.Q. tests can be improved upon by practicing the types of problems that they include such as math, and spacial orientation problems(those are the complex shape problems). They are skills that can be practices and improved upon to an extent.

 

[Venomfan]

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When Reed says Spider-Man is brilliant, I always saw it in the way a teacher pats his brightest pupil on the back and says "you have potential kid."

As for achievements, Peter has done nothing in these fields which others haven't been able to achieve.
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Reed has actually said that Parker is just as smart as he was at that age

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Still seems like it's more a ridiculously accomplished genius paying a compliment to a bright but not necessarily motivated kid to me. Even if Peter is as smart as Reed was at his age, he doesn't really compare to the likes of Reed or Doom or Tony Stark since he's about 15 years younger than all of them and isn't doing much to further his education.

 

[Varient]

That would truly require going beyond the rim.

oh,.... that was poor.t:

 

[Varient]

I.Q. tests can be improved upon by practicing the types of problems that they include such as math, and spacial orientation problems(those are the complex shape problems). They are skills that can be practices and improved upon to an extent.

Soooo,... an IQ test goes from a way to gauge intelligence to gauging how familiar you are with certain ways of thinking or doing things.

Meh,.. I thought I said that.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

The way you do things is supposed to be reflective of your intelligence, isn't it? If a guy were to lug something up a hill on his back when he could've set it on wheels and rolled it up, odds are he's probably not too smart unless he had a very specific reason to do it the harder way.

 

[Varient]

The way you do things is supposed to be reflective of your intelligence, isn't it? If a guy were to lug something up a hill on his back when he could've set it on wheels and rolled it up, odds are he's probably not too smart unless he had a very specific reason to do it the harder way.

truth.

And that will always be on the observer.

(Years of Military doing it the hard way to save time talking here.)

Ol Albert was considered an Idiot for a long time because he didn't do his math the way it was done in the day,.... Most of the great minds were considered "less" while they were living - goes back to my opinion on the mass of humanity that considers themselves to be "practical".

An IQ test is a faulty exercise in determining intelligence because you can study to ace it.

V.

 

[KangConquers]

Reed has actually said that Parker is just as smart as he was at that age

Reed already had multiple college degrees before he was even an adult. As did Stark; Doom is upto the equivalent of a doctorate degree in countless sciences.

Peter has what? one bachelors or masters, which he completed in a rather normal time frame? Yeah, he's smart...but he can't touch Reed Richards for intelligence. No chance.

 

[KangConquers]

The way you do things is supposed to be reflective of your intelligence, isn't it? If a guy were to lug something up a hill on his back when he could've set it on wheels and rolled it up, odds are he's probably not too smart unless he had a very specific reason to do it the harder way.

That's more of a common sense thing; many of the greatest geniuses through out history are said to have had little or no common sense.

Einstein for instance, would get wrapped up in his thoughts, wander off, and get lost. If the method of gauging intelligence was as you described it, Einstein wouldn't be considered too bright.

Well, one things for certain...everyone in this thread has some quam with the way Marvel rates intelligence.

Marvel's intelligence rating is basically "How good of a scientist are you?" and has nothing to do with any other sort of intelligence values. If it did, all villains would be higher ranked than heroes, due to the average dialogue of heroes compared to villains.

Granted I have a BA in English (You wouldn't know it by my lazy grammar on the board...but what the hell, it's a super hero board.) so when Kang and Doom speak perfect English, and have extensive vocabularies (Kang's managed to call someone an idiot six new ways in every issue he's in) compared to Parker, who basically talks like an average joe, I make subconscious judgements about their intellect.

Peter to me, seems like a normal guy, with a special gift for science; He doesn't strike me as the type of guy who reads the classics, who understands Kantian ethics, or has an interest in the fine arts. All of those are parts of intelligence. A genius to me, is someone who is well-rounded intellectually, not just someone who's out of this world in one field.